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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:42 PM
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Will this disaster affect the Bush rally cry of 9/11 ??
Will 9/11, as tragic as it was, still have the same impact on people since this disaster in New Orleans? With dead people lying in the streets, and probably more deaths when we understand the full gravity of the situation, will Bush be able to rally the people to fight unseen enemies around the world? Simply by mentioning 9/11, he has broke our Treasury and made us hated around the world. The "shock and awe" has come back to our own shores. How will this affect the political capital of 9/11?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:44 PM
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1. I think it is dead
if it is used to show how Bush has "kept us secure".
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:58 PM
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16. That's what I think.
9-11 and "tar'ists" pale in comparison to Katrina and the aftermath.

But I predict Nero will keep on it, as if nothing else happened.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:44 PM
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2. I think it will be a hollow cry.
New Orleans proved we're not ready to handle a massive terror attack.

It also puts the "war" on terror way down on the priority list.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:50 PM
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9. I hope I never hear it again.
I live in NYC, downtown Manhattan. I don't want Bush able to use our pain one more time, ever.

But it's one more reason I believe we'll have to fight for the true NO body count.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:51 PM
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12. No terrorist ever took out an entire city.
George, however, did.
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:44 PM
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3. Not if Camp Katrina on the Mall happens
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:46 PM by GeorgeBushytail
Camp Katrina on The Mall: Thousands of Katrina survivors camped on Bush's doorstep demanding answers and change.

Rumsfield's Freedom March will be undercut entirely if there is a Camp Katrina in DC by 9/11.

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Help build Camp Katrina on The Mall!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4629758

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2059147

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:52 PM
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13. Could you try not to use the evacuees as political pawns?
It would be sensitive and nice of you.
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GeorgeBushytail Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:24 PM
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17. Mississippi and Louisiana DUers are enthusiastic about the idea
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 04:24 PM by GeorgeBushytail
Some enthusiastic comments in the Mississippi State forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=161x575

Louisiana forum:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=155&topic_id=2343

They are not mine to use.

I am a "sensitive and nice" disabled keyboard activist trying hard to find something to do.

We are talking to survivors in shelters to see if the idea flies.

Survivors have to run it if it is to succeed.
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:45 PM
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4. I just heard Newt on Hannity
state (paraphrasing)"the NO tragedy is 1,000 time more tragic than 9/11" Hannity = silence.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:47 PM
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7. yes... Katrina may have finally neutralized the 9/11 exploiters...
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:46 PM
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5. Could anything be more unseemly?
Surely they will cancel? I may just have to call (again) a few REPUG Congress creatures...
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:47 PM
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6. I think 9/11 as a political sledgehammer..
is over.

I also think Bush fumbled the handling of Katrina so badly in part because he knew he couldn't use it to start a war or get any of his agenda pushed through.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:48 PM
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8. It shows that the "lessons of 9/11" were mismanaged.
It also shows that this is a reactive administration, not a proactive one.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:50 PM
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10. SURE! WE'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER 9-11 AND NOT FORGET KATRINA
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:50 PM
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11. It severely weakens it.
This disaster will also result in a faster return of our National Guard men and women.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:53 PM
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14. Good point !
The Democrats could call for the pullout of all our NG troops in Iraq without suffering for it politically. That would be a good first step to ending this illegal war..
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 03:53 PM
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15. "It’s Not Just New Orleans That Needs Rebuilding"
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 03:55 PM by graphixtech
from 911Truth.org

It’s Not Just New Orleans That Needs Rebuilding
By Bryon Sacks
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050904221329705

So now, horribly, we know what it takes to stir disgust and outrage directed at the federal government, in the hearts of the corporate press corps. It takes a catastrophe of biblical proportions unfolding right before their eyes, right here in America, right in front of their cameras and camera crews, amid the stench of rotting corpses and a heaving mass of literally thousands of sick and dying.

Katrina’s aftermath has exposed the ‘most powerful country in the world’ as literally powerless to address the most basic needs of the most highly visible suffering people on the planet. This monstrous failure could literally be paradigm-shifting in its effect on the public consciousness.

The power of this story is evident in the accounts from on-location cable correspondents, who usually have no difficulty avoiding serious criticism of the powerful in any situation. But in New Orleans yesterday, several of them could not.

Fox News’ Geraldo Rivera and Shepard Smith, for instance, veered wildly off script while reporting from the watery grave New Orleans has become. It took only a few hours holed up in the Superdome to provoke outrage in both of them—not only at the inhuman conditions inside the Louisiana Superdome, where the dead lay rotting next to the living, but that ‘hundreds and hundreds and hundreds” of survivors were being denied exit. Have we forgotten already that these people were encouraged to head for the Superdome by authorities? How on earth could they be denied the right to leave an open cesspool?

(more)


http://911truth.org/
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:28 PM
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18. is the "Freedom Walk" still on?
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:29 PM
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19. Probably not, but most people won't listen to him anymore
Bush has lost the confidence and trust of more than half the population, and he's hard at work losing the rest.
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