Boxerfan
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:01 PM
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IRAQ BUSHCO COCAINE DROP INTERCEPTED??? |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 04:03 PM by Boxerfan
I smell a beeeeg fish here. A VERY big fish.... http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-09-05-cocaine-seized_x.htm?csp=24Snip(bold added) "The drugs were divided between two shipping containers recorded as having been sent from Venezuela and BOUND FOR IRAQ via Belgium. The cocaine was unloaded in Rotterdam. " We all know our history folks. I'm sure the Iraqi's don't buy a lot of nose candy!
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:03 PM
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1. for those of us slow at connecting the dots and bad at history... |
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can you connect a few of the dots?
how does this link to iran or bush?
don't get me wrong, i believe bush is responsible for just about everything but weather (and after katrina that's being shaken) but i don't quite get it. :shrug:
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Boxerfan
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:06 PM
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5. My bad & fixed title-IRAQ |
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The destination for a HUGE shipment was bound for IRAQ?!? Remeber Iran-Contra? They use drug smuggling to finance black ops silly!
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Dem Agog
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:08 PM
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just curious why this was linked to iran... and i barely remember iran-contra. i was about 8 then... i was always fuzzy on the details... so i suck...
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:07 PM
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 04:08 PM by SimpleTrend
Payback for seizing Heinz's abandoned tomato processing plant? (not sure which occurred first) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1755249
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:07 PM
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7. You have to go back and do some research on his AWOL days |
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to read about his "missions". Also, his arrest in TX and cimmunity service, also during his AWOL days.
When we first went into Afghanistan, we burned all the poppy fields. They have seens thrived again too. Muslim religion forbids them from using such substances.
Lots of money has been made by the BFEE in these types drugs!
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:03 PM
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2. They arrested some Army folk for trafficing in drugs recently. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:09 PM
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11. But this was 5 tons of nose candy! |
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A bit much to finance on a soldier's salary.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:06 PM
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3. WTF - They were sending cocaine to Iraq |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 04:53 PM by DoYouEverWonder
and this just happened? I thought you were posting an old story from the 80's. Oh life gets more interesting by the second.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:17 PM
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14. Please==who is the 'they' |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:54 PM
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they're in charge of most of the drug trade, especially if it was heading for Iraq.
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Tue Sep-06-05 11:36 AM
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Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 11:36 AM by Boxerfan
Sorry I'm late in asking but who is the BCF? I know this is an entirely speculative thread but it begs the question of why 5 tons of cocaine was being shipped to IRAQ?
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:06 PM
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Bush isn't expected in Iraq. Should have gone to DC.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:08 PM
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9. Whaaaa? I thought it would be some questionable source. It is USA Today! |
Boxerfan
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:08 PM
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10. Here's the full cut & paste |
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Not that long so I'll make it easy
"Dutch seize tons of cocaine in Rotterdam port AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) — Authorities seized 5 tons of cocaine hidden in reels of steel cable in the Port of Rotterdam last month in what prosecutors described Monday as one of the country's biggest drug busts. The seizure was the largest in the Netherlands in terms of value, with an estimated street worth of $275 million. It was kept secret until Monday while arrests were prepared.
Eleven men and two women of six nationalities were arrested after the seizure on Aug. 3 — most of them last weekend. A 45-year-old Colombian suspect died after falling from an apartment window in Amsterdam, prosecutors said in a statement.
Prosecutors said the man died while trying to escape during a police raid, but national investigators have launched an independent inquiry into his death.
Police in Spain and Belgium have made an undisclosed number of additional arrests in the case, Dutch prosecutors said.
The 13 suspects were from the Netherlands, Colombia, Venezuela, Mexico, Greece and the United States, and their ages ranged from 15 to 50, prosecutors said.
Additional arrests were possible, they said.
The cocaine was concealed within reels of steel cable 12 feet high and 6 feet wide.
The drugs were divided between two shipping containers recorded as having been sent from Venezuela and bound for Iraq via Belgium. The cocaine was unloaded in Rotterdam. "
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:12 PM
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12. cocaine is one of bushco's MAJOR businesses |
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i have no links, just years of cumulative evidence and a very strong gut feeling.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:16 PM
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the 8 million that went missing was for?
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:19 PM
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17. Yep, that would buy a lot of nose candy and explain why |
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the money's disappearance can't be explained.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:18 PM
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15. Arrests between the ages of 15 and 50? |
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Strange group there, especially with the several countries of origin. Interesting.
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:19 PM
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16. It's common in drug smuggling to ship things a dozen times. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:29 PM
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18. I don't see any mention of Iraq or Bushco in the article. |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 04:31 PM by pinto
Seems a straight forward drug shipment bust to me.
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(ed for clarity)
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:40 PM
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19. I repeat: McKinney hearings had lot on the drug funding of our wars. n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 05:37 PM
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26. This began the ever Racist Terrorist Harry J. Anslinger. |
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The Drugs are just a ruse of this war. How many times do you have to be lied to figure that out? The real focus is the killing and capturing PEOPLE. The War on Drugs us the highly camouflaged last vestments of segregation in America. Now instead of segregating ethnic groups into their own communities. They are being gentrified out of American Communities and segregated into prison populations. The theory of addiction is little more that white slavery (Invisible Chains).
In life humankind is bound by many chains. Life it's self is the very first chain we are bound with. Then there are the lesser chains of food, weather, and events. Yes, Jacob Marley we wear many chains through this life. But those of us who freely live a life of good. It is they who shall be liberated from those earthly chains in death. It is the wicked who shall see and wear their chains in death until they have made good.
The War on Drugs is nothing more than that path of good intention thats always leads to the Greatest of Atrocities. Hitler wanted a perfect world full of perfect people. How do you argue against that? The peoples of the world should have the freedom to live in that world. A time that cannot be foreseen by and one human being or any one group of human beings. Perfection is not ours to own or even hold. It is humankinds place to behold perfection. Until then Human beings will need the liberty and the responsibility that accompanies it to live a good life. End or argument. End of war. Rebirth of that more perfect union called Democracy. Seek it now!
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:41 PM
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20. Who ordered this? ... Who was the 'shipper'? |
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Why was it bound for Iraq? Who was going to receive this shipment? How was it going to be disbursed? Did it have Haliburton's or KBR's name and address on it?
Who, What, Why, Where, When??????
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:48 PM
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21. Well - Who Looks At Stuff Comming and Going From Iraq? |
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I would have to presume that the US military is in control of Iraq's ports - that is a good place to start. Also, and I do not know squat about international shipping, isn't there some sort of final destination on the manifest? By that I mean if the containers weren't supposed to go anywher after Iraq then one should presume they were intended to end up in Iraq. I do not know why but I find it difficult to immagine that drug use is a big problem in Iraq. So where is the market for all this nose candy, was it to be redirected to Europe (seems unlikely as hell) or was it stateside bound?
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:57 PM
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24. 140,000 bored, scared soldiers... |
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... in Iraq, and there's no market for coke? 40,000 extraordinarily wealthy Kuwaiti and Saudi princes next door? 30,000 very well-paid contractors in Iraq? All trapped in countries with no booze?
Sounds like a waiting and eager market to me....
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:52 PM
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22. there was also this a week or so ago |
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Mon Sep-05-05 04:58 PM
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They'll do anything to be able to claim Venezuela is another Colombia that needs our involvement. Anyone want to tell me Chavez is baseless in his fear the US is going to come for him again? This would be unbelievable if I didn't expect this kind of stuff from bush and co. in the first place.
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