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Mon Sep-05-05 09:05 PM
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Olbermann Did NOT Call For Bush's Resignation |
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He, very eloquently, spoke of the failure of this administration and the utter incompetence of its members, including Bush.
But, he did not call for resignation or impeachment.
If you want to read what he said, on air, go to his blog, as it is almost word for word what he spoke.
I don't think people should be posting misleading things about what anyone says, much less people who are on our side and are our allies.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:05 PM
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Misleading and inaccurate and downright made up thread titles piss me off
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:05 PM
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:08 PM
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3. And why didn't he? Many of us are.n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:09 PM
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4. I swear he said something like that tho... |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:15 PM
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5. i just watched it. He said no such thing |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:25 PM
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16. I've watched the video clip twice to make sure... |
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He didn't call on Bush to resign, but he called him Marie Antoinette (we all know what happened to THAT cake lover....) and spoke of the government's credibility possibly being rediscovered in the NO muck in ...maybe...the year 2021. Frankly, I don't think he needed to call for a resignation....I've never heard such a powerful indictment of a public figure and a ruling administration on TV in my life. He quoted Churchill's great statement that the first and absolute responsibility of government is to protect the people...and pointed out that the Bushies have failed miserably .It had me crying, actually. I shall now sign off and write several thank you emails to msnbc.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:32 PM
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24. Yes, but its the video. |
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I watched it in the first TV broadcast and heard from others, who have said something similar by email. And like he said he did say something to the attune of "you might as well give up, (throw in the towel) if this is leadership. And one day your credibility will be dragged out of the Louisiana wreckage."
Something like that, it was not identical to everything he posts on the web. I wish someone TIVOed it live to capture the whole thing.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:44 PM
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:16 PM
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6. He DID say something similar... |
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And I don't think it was posted on that blog. He doesn't post everything said usually.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:24 PM
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15. I WATCHED THE VIDEO. HE DIDN"T SAY IT |
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Tue Sep-06-05 04:19 AM
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40. Excuse me. What did you say? |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:18 PM
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7. I watched the video. He did not say any about resigning |
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However, it was a great rant.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:20 PM
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9. Me too, I rewatched my own copy. |
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The video and the transcript are nearly identical, and the ways in which they differ are not substantial ones.
I say this because we don't need to have rumors spread that MSNBC "whitewashed" anything from it later or that anyone else did a la Kanye West.
Thanks for starting this thread to whoever did, because if you hadn't, I was about to.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:19 PM
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8. Recommending because I don't think he did either. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:22 PM
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12. You don't need to think about it |
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look at the video it is a freaking fact HE DID NOT CALL FOR RESIGNATION. He didn't say it imply it or come close to it. The other post that said he did was BS. I only hope that not too many of us sent an email to Olbermann thanking him for calling for the freak in chief's resignation - it would be quite embarassing - since he didn't!!!!!
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:23 PM
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13. The blog was not whitewashed. |
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I have to say this because MSNBC apparently isn't rerunning Countdown tonight so people will miss this unless they watch the posted video anyway.
This is the fact: I watched my tape of the commentary while reading the posted blog. Neither calls for resignation or impeachment. Neither. Strong words are definitely said...everything but...but neither contains that phrase.
I say it in the interests of preventing rumor spread, and in the interests of truth. That is all.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:22 PM
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10. Indeed. He did not. I don't know where that came from. |
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Just search the transcript text after seing the video, which obviously does not show him saying that.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:22 PM
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11. Go to www.bloggermann.com |
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the entire transcript of his rant is posted there.
And I'm with you, he did not call for Shrub's resignation--he just called them incompetent. :evilgrin:
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:24 PM
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14. No kidding. I watched the video feed and he said nothing of the kind. n/t |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:26 PM
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17. "Throw in the towel" is close enough for me |
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He was basically saying he might as well resign because he sucks big time even if those were not his exact words we all know what he was referring to. What else would "Throw in the towel" mean?
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:29 PM
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21. I didn't hear "throw in the towel" either. nt |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:30 PM
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23. Where did he say "Throw in the towel"? |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:36 PM
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28. It's simple. He didn't. this was completely made up |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:39 PM
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30. Yep. And I think it's incredibly irresponsible. |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:26 PM
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18. Are you quibbling over words? If he said "time to throw in the towel" |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:29 PM by linazelle
that's pretty close. What's the big distinction being made here?
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Mon Sep-05-05 10:11 PM
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37. Which words would we be quibbling over |
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resignation - not there towel - not there throw in the towel- not there
I searched the text for thes words using the search function I've read the thing twice and listened to it twice. He did not say this and we need to stop this BS
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:27 PM
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19. Whenever there is something going on - all the crazies come out here |
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SO much misinformation, SO much Clinton bashing, SO many "this is the end" threads.
It's funny when we talk about the repukes eating their own when we've been doing it here for a week straight.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:30 PM
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22. Wow, I thought it was just me who noticed that crap!!! |
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And I thought, hell, maybe I am just too sensitive.
But damn, you gotta wonder how warped those folks are, when they are so desperate to divide that they pile in, pile on, and pull that crap on a progressive forum!!!
It makes no sense!
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:35 PM
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26. It makes me wish there was some way to control the posting of tripe |
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Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 09:40 PM by Mr_Spock
I mean, it's cool to post whatever you want I suppose, but so much of the traffic that is pushing us to Level 3 is such crap that if those people just went and got a life instead of trying to sabotage our happy family here, it would be much nicer. I may have to start ignoring people soon - this is getting SO ridiculous!
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:33 PM
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25. whenever there is something going on...EVERYONE comes out here |
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:36 PM
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27. Yeah, including Freepers and crazies wanting anarchy |
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I just can't stand it sometimes...
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Mon Sep-05-05 11:06 PM
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39. Yikes, you're scared of clinton bashing AND anarchy? |
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They're really not so bad, guy.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:28 PM
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20. I agree. I'm really tired of the exaggeration around here. |
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I didn't get to see the show tonight and I really got worked up about hearing that KO asked for his resignation.
Please, please, please people try not to post misinformation anymore!
Thank you.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:37 PM
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He spoke very strongly, but did not say the "R" or "I" words, nor anything that I could hear on the video or see in the transcript about towels.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:42 PM
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31. I am still smileing.... |
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At least he said something... The other Bush apologists have tried to cover for him. at least Keith is not being a bush whore....
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:43 PM
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32. The best part of it all to me, though, |
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was that he kept calling him "Mr. Bush" and not President Bush. Keith definitely let you know how he felt about the Shrub.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:45 PM
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34. And what does it matter if he did or he didn't? |
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Olbermann's great, but he's just a talking head opinion guy. It's nice to hear our disgust well expressed, but it's absurd to react to his remarks as if they're some seismic political event. If Harry Reid had called on Bush to resign -- or even said it was time for him to "throw in the towel" -- that would be a major political event.
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Mon Sep-05-05 11:00 PM
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38. They may not be a seismic political event |
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but it's great to hear them said by ANY journalist.
Also, consider what happened to Joe McCarthy after Edward R. Murrow finally had the guts to say about him on CBS what many people believed secretly, but were afraid to say.
And, just for the record, he never used any phrase referring to towels or the appropriate time for throwing them in.
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Mon Sep-05-05 09:49 PM
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Bloggerman's "Fed's Fail the city of Louisiana." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
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Tue Sep-06-05 04:23 AM
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42. Gimme a link please! N/T/ |
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Tue Sep-06-05 07:51 AM
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43. It was more powerful than simply repeating the obvious, |
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which a thousand and one others are rightly doing, anyway.
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