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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:00 PM
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Oh here we go, the new talking point ....
It's the bureaucracy not the Bush.....



Damn, who the hell do they think CAUSED the bureaucracy?

When FEMA was a cabinet position there was NO bureaucracy, that's why it was a cabinet position...But in the DHS it's a subgroup that has to have approvals, paperwork, and no money. That's why it outsourced so many jobs...
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:04 PM
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1. Political Appointments
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:05 PM
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2. That doesn't excuse Bush
Bush made no effort to cut through the bureaucracy (if it existed) in a timely fashion. No one with a scrap of decency could stand by and allow their countrymen to starve and die of thirst. Red tape should be no obstacle to a concerned President. The conclusions are obvious: either Bush didn't know or he didn't care that people were dying. Either conclusion disqualifies Bush from the moral authority necessary to a US President. He should resign now.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:09 PM
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4. Well said!
:thumbsup:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:09 PM
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3. The other new talking point is: "Dont think about the past or the future,
think about right now". Cause they finally sent the army in.
And we are supposed to concentrate really hard on that instead of what happened the week before.


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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:48 PM
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8. those of us with more than two neurons can think about the past
and the future while dealing with the present. For others, it's hard work.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:21 PM
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5. The buck stops at Bush. Plain and simple.
Leaders own up to their mistakes and act to fix them. Incompetent weasels make excuses and point fingers at others.
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Secular Agent Man Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:45 PM
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6. Then "Bushaucracy" will be my new talking point !
:hippie:
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:47 PM
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7. Heard that too. The "BIG GOV'T." Well if he can't handle the job...
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:48 PM by linazelle
get out of the way and let somebody who knows how to cut through red tape do it. If the POTUS can't cut the tape, who can?
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:07 PM
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10. It's hard work cutting through red tape....
when you're cutting cake.


While New Orleans was undergoing a slow motion catastrophe on Monday and Tuesday, Bush was mugging for the cameras, cutting a cake for John McCain, playing the guitar for Mark Wills, delivering an address about V-J day, and continuing with his vacation. Then, on Wednesday, when he finally got around to saying something, it turned out to be a flat, defensive, laundry list of a speech.

I'm just saying...:shrug:
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:53 PM
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9. The creation of the Dept. Of Homeland Security...
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:53 PM by Fighting Irish
...was supposed to clean up the bureaucracy.

Then again, that was one of the intentions of the Patriot Act.

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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:45 PM
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11. They want to PRIVATIVE FEMA
...Make it more faith-based so that Pat Robertson can play the role of God in deciding who gets saved or not.

They want big corporations to take control.

Keep in mind the Bush Cult called for a smaller government, one so small that it wouldn't be able to save human lives in a disaster.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:49 PM
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12. Yeah but Bush saved thousands :sarcasm: that's the other
polly wanna cracker tid bit to poop its way onto the right wing slimosphere.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 11:54 PM
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13. Doesn't matter
if Bush had been there on Monday calling for NG and FEMA to hurry their asses up, and asked Congress to convene in a special midnight session (like they did for Terri), none of this mess would have happened!

Bottom line is, if Bush had stepped in and done something, people would have followed. Thats the end to that talking point!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:20 AM
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14. Keep it vague and generalized. No one at the top takes responsibility
or gets indicted that way.

Look at the Plame Investigation.
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