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3days Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:09 PM
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Bush killed 10,000 people

What did you do on your vacation?

Never Forget!

NEVER FORGET

IMPEACH INDICT IMPRISON
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:10 PM
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1. Bush didn't kill them
He fucked up really badly, which lead to their deaths. :eyes:
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:12 PM
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3. so that would be, what,
manslaughter instead of murder??
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:13 PM
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5. Criminal negligence
That's my guess.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:17 PM
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11. Negligent Homicide?
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:18 PM by zidzi
http://www.truthlaidbear.com/archives/2005/08/28/negligent_homicide.php

This is a Louisianna State Law..ironically, enough..but I see they want to send Nagin to jail.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:19 PM
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13. Depraved indifference to human life.
Negligent homicide.

He killed them. We're lucky. He killed lots more Iraqis.

Please don't wash his hands for him because he wasn't actually present. It was his failure to be present that killed.
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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:10 PM
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2. That is just his latest 10K.
How many more are yet to die?
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:19 PM
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14. I believe anyone who died as a result of the levee breaking
Edited on Mon Sep-05-05 10:20 PM by never_get_over_it
is his responsibility and anyone who died after surviving the hurricane is his responsibility - we'll probably never know how many

but lets not forget

3,000 on 9/11 - he was warned and warned and warned and did nothing
2,000 - which is way higher but we'll never know that true number either
100,000+ - Iraqis

I'm beginning to believe the ONLY thing he has ever been successful at is death and destruction - pResident Death!
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:12 PM
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4. link to thread
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 PM
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6. 10,000 is a lowball number
50,000 in the entire region easily :(
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:18 PM
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12. Could be 100,000
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 PM
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7. Could be 50,000
who knows?
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:14 PM
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8. Bush didn't kill them.
Katrina did that. But I think his policies since his first term definitely added to the suffering. There's plenty of blame to go around. We can't just put all the onus on the GOP. Many factors are at fault here.
I think part of the problem is that Bush does himself no favors by seeming to be so out of touch with the common people. He just doesn't have that ability to assimilate with we peons here below.

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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:19 PM
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15. no, the majority likely died *after* the hurricane
within the same timeframe that *I* used to respond to foreign emergencies of equal or worse proportions for the USAF. That's what I did for a living. There was no excuse for this and those who acted locally are far less culpable than those who failed to act or blocked action by others.

The problem isn't his "out of touch with the common people" skills as he uses that all the time, it ain't a PR or "perception" problem it is the failure to render timely material aid as we have done over and over again. the "gop"? Who is blaming the GOP specifically?

No, the US government the office of the President and the men he appointed to these positions who were fulsomely praised for failing to do their jobs. THAT'S who I blame. And I know of what I speak.

Enjoy defending your indefensible position, I'll let the other vets, emts and medical workers who know better continue this, I need a break.

Mr. W_D



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number_nine Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:23 PM
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17. Agreed
This is a terrible thing to say, but part of me really thinks that since there were no big money friends of the Bush Dynasty hurt by Katrina, that he really doesn't care what's going on down there.

I try so hard to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I don't think Bush would deliberately let people die... but, like you said, he's completely out of touch with average folks like us. So that there's a lot of our types suffering is in Bush's mind like plague in a gnat swarm---largely inconsequential.

Karl Rove... man, he's smart, damn smart, but totally evil. Perhaps he's not evil, but I'd like to see him show some humility or sympathy just once.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:15 PM
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9. He's a terrible president, the worst we ever had, but
he didn't kill them. Just did an unbelievably pathetic job during the disaster, as well as hamstringing the state with his FEMA cuts and La. National Guard off-shoring prior to the disaster.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:20 PM
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16. It's Negligent Homicide
and they want to pin it on Nagin when it belongs on bush's head.

http://www.truthlaidbear.com/archives/2005/08/28/negligent_homicide.php
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:16 PM
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10. And that's just in his OWN country. n/t
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:27 PM
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18. Bush certainly did not kill them... he was part of mass negligence
after the hurricane... but that may have led to a few deaths... I can give you no number as I have no true idea... but I would estimate that 99% of the deaths were unavoidable (excepting evacuation and not cutting levee funding in the first place...)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 10:36 PM
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19. If our Democrats running for office in 2006 don't use
this as their main campaign issue to point out the ineptitude and elitism of the Republicans they are running against, then I give up.

This is a gift from the gods. It reveals with no uncertainity that what the Republicans stand for is filling their pockets with the taxpayer's money while they do nothing about governing. Here is the proof that anyone who votes Republican is voting against their own interests and you can't point it out enough times.
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:34 PM
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20. if Dems use Katrina
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 03:19 PM by neoteric lefty
as a political "gift from the Gods" then it will bite them in the ass, I believe. Dems have plenty of ammo just sitting there (Iraq, Environmental Protection, Iraq, Homeland Security, Iraq, election reform, Iraq, economic activity, Iraq). If we play Katrina, Katrina, Katrina 24/7 in 2006, then the GOP can just say, "look they are politicizing a natural disaster". Dems will be on the defensive telling the public how it is not. We need to find out where govt failed us (federal, state and local), fix the problems, plan for the future and hold people accountable for their action or inaction.
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