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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:31 AM
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Journalists in NO beaten by cops.
Sickening!!!

""Another photojournalist - Lucas Oleniuk of the Toronto Star - was knocked to the ground by police, his gear taken from him initially, when he photographed them shooting at looters and then beating one. In response to the growing violence and an increasing sense of despair among the stranded survivors, some television networks have hired armed private security firms to protect their journalists as they work to cover the story.""

http://www.nppa.org/news_and_events/news/2005/09/hurricane2.html
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:32 AM
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1. This is starting to sound more and more like Iraq
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Save the Gulf, then save the nation!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:35 AM
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3. Bush likes the "success" here, he's going to recreate it here.....nt
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:59 PM
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19. My first thought, exactly. We're creating 'them' here, now.
So much for fighting them over there, so we don't have to fight them here. Now we're going out of our way to create 'them'. Why does there always have to be a 'them', anyway?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:32 AM
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2. Bu$h's version of Marital Law
No cameras to report the travesty
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:38 AM
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4. Not just cops
Man, everyone was beating down on the journalists. Civilians, military, and cops alike.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 08:40 AM
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5. How do we know that they are really NO cops
I wouldn't put anything past this regime.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:07 AM
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8. I dunno
A lot of the people I've seen in photos described as being N.O. cops were plain clothes with guns. I didn't see badges or uniforms. Uniforms I can understand they might be without but damn, pin your badge to your t-shirt. Then there's no abiguity and no civilian will think you're an armed looter and take a shot at you.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:18 AM
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13. Oh SHIT You right.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:04 AM
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6. Nobody has a right to take cameras or destroy film or digital data
Here is a PDF document that explains photographers' rights:

http://www.krages.com/ThePhotographersRight.pdf
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:09 AM
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9. Hate to break it to you, but we're not in Kansas anymore....
....not since the NeoCon Junta took over in December 2000.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:16 AM
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12. Of course. They still do things they don't have the right.
They will do things they don't have the right to, but that doesn't mean they will always get away with it. And yes, that is why the new orgs hire security personnel because these things happen. Doesn't make it right.

The point is, know your rights. If you don't know your rights you will just give them up.

Nobody has a right to take away your camera or your film or digital data except in some very limited extreme circumstances.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:06 AM
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7. Oh dear God
This is horrible and unaccetable! They're trying to cover up the truth just like Iraq. :mad:
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Kni7es Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:10 AM
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10. What the hell is wrong with these people?
It just makes me want to cry.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:15 AM
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11. Homeland Security just said "they are on their own"
Via scanner...someone asked if the media was being let in, they were told YES, but that ***per Homeland Security, they are "on their own".***


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4641501&mesg_id=4659464




That sounds kind of scary..no wonder NBC hired it's own security people
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:19 AM
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14. Is it TOTALITARIANISM yet?
Reporters beaten by police because they attempted to REPORT...
What kind of banana-republic crap is that?
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 AM
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15. Attacking reporters inside the USA? They think they're in Iraq or Abu Grab
Rummies response to photos of abuse? Ban the camers!

<snip>
Toronto Star staff photojournalist Lucas Oleniuk was taken to the ground by police in the Spanish Quarter after he photographed a firefight between looters and police, and police were then reportedly “beating on” a looter. A coworker at the Toronto Star told News Photographer magazine tonight, “The cops saw him and put him down, and took his gear. At first they were going to take all of his cameras, but he talked them into only taking the memory cards and letting him keep the cameras.” Oleniuk’s coworker says the photojournalist, who was not injured in the incident, went to New Orleans the day after the hurricane hit.
<snip>
Soon after, a shoot-out took place and Russell witnessed gunfire between police and civilians that he says “left one man dead in a pool of blood.” Afterwards police slammed Russell and the photojournalist against a wall and threw their equipment to the ground when the duo got out of their SUV to cover the scene. Russell says afterward they retreated to the reporter’s home where they hid, and plan to flee the city Thursday evening.
<snip>
Reuters and Getty Images confirm tonight that Reuters photojournalist Rick Wilking and Getty Images photojournalist Mark Wilson had cameras and laptop computers stolen from a car they were using as they got out of the vehicle to photograph rescue efforts in a New Orleans neighborhood. Michael D. Sargent, vice president of news for Getty, said the two were not harmed and that they are safe tonight, but that their gear is gone. A Reuters picture editor in Washington said the trouble apparently started when the two photographers got out of their car with cameras and were seen, and then targeted, by a neighborhood crowd.


What's next?!? Embedded (for their own protection) reporters that present the Neo-Con line as the real story?!



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zwielicht Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:42 AM
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16. kick
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:43 PM
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17. cops or Blackwater? They are on the scene providing "security" nt
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:40 PM
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22. My guess is blackwater
The "cops" in the pictures don't look like NOPD to me.

More like mercenaries which is what Blackwater is.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:59 PM
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18. Sincerely doubt they were cops...
Probably NG or swat... "Bringing the chaos of Iraq to your hometown!"
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:26 PM
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21. But why would anyone expect them to
switch off the Iraq approach. They've been programed and quite frankly I'm afraid for the Aemrican people and not just in NOLA.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:03 PM
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20. Old news
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:48 PM
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23. I wonder if these are truly NO cops. Just because they have the uniform
doesnt mean they are not private contractors.

Cui bono from all the cops creating problems?

Take a guess.

It will be interesting at the least to see where this leads.
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