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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:38 AM
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Don't blame "people" like Bush et.al, BLAME THE PHILOSOPHY!
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 10:38 AM by Walt Starr
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.
This is the natural result of the conservative philosophy.


Wash, rinse, repeat...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:40 AM
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1. "That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
"That's what you get when you vote republi-CON...(sigh)"
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:40 AM
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2. No, the NEO con philosophy
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:51 AM
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15. No, lump them all in together
We will need to have a MASSIVE liberal effort on teh scale of the New Deal in order to reverse the perverse destruction of theis nation's infrastructure. This requires a HUGE swing to the left for the next twenty or thirty years.

Just destroying neo-conservatism does not accomplish the goal. Standard conservatism will make a comeback, but both the garden variety and the neos need to take a back seat for a long time.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:41 AM
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3. Yup, you're right.
Clearly the first impulse of all us humans is to look for someONE to blame. And the Repugs have provided us with a number of them.

But we will very much need to move on to the fact that it's their philosophy that has proven so terribly wrong on so many levels.

Just don't get upset with people who aren't yet willing to move on to that. We're all traumatized right now, and it will take time for some of us to start thinking clearly again.
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Salviati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:45 AM
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5. Exactly...
and it's not like the people aren't to blame too, so if someone is blaming the republicans in charge, I completely agree with them, but will use that to lever the blame onto the political philosophy of corruption, greed, and incompitance otherwise known as modern-day-"conservatism"
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:44 AM
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4. That is the best way to make it play for the 06 elections
It is the entire party philosophy
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:45 AM
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6. what's with all the "It isn't Bush's Fault" posts in the last few minutes
I get your point Walt, but how come Bush always gets let off the hook by DU?

i.e. it's not bush, its cheney
its not bush, its rove
its not bush its the democrats
its not bush its the philosophy
its not bush its the voters
etc etc
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:53 AM
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17. Bush has linked himself to the blame by virtue of his philosophy
By attacking the philosophy and affixing blame to that, we have de facto affixed the blame to Bush as he is currently the titular head of the entire conservative movement, get it?
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:46 AM
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7. exactly right, the poor just need to lift themselves up. No problem.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:46 AM
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8. A Couplet for Conservatives
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 10:46 AM by JHB
"The best government is the least government"

"Be careful what you wish for, you may get it."
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:47 AM
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9. Exactly. n/t
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:48 AM
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10. It's true, but fights need faces. Cindy Sheehan was great
for the anti war movement. Bush is great for the anti conservative partgy fight. That's about all it's good for, too.

.-------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:48 AM
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11. Very true.
This is what happens when you devote your resources to invading and occupying other countries, and underfund your own infrastructure.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:48 AM
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12. Smikr is the one who carried it to the WH though
He's the one so cowardly, stupid, mean, and disconnected, yet presentable, that 50M people would vote for him. He is the modern face of conservatism - smirking, glad-handing, able to put on a solemn face while inwardly giggling that Haliburton will rake in another billion dollars off of dead bodies. The man is truly loathesome.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:54 AM
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18. By attacking the philosophy, you indirectly attack Bush
You don't appear "meanspirited" because you are attacking the root cauyse of the problem, conservatism, instead of those who directed the implementation of the philosophy.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:49 AM
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13. Dupe
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:55 AM
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19. EXCELLENT JOB, WILL!!!!!
Thanks, I LOVE your article! SPOT ON!

:thumbsup:
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:51 AM
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14. You are on a roll today, Walt!
Keep it up.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:52 AM
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16. I blame both.
Most of us who are capable of making moral decision know when we are crossing the line. These people CHOSE to cross that line again and again and commit immoral and illegal acts. I blame them alright. The philosophy is a product of their willingness to cross the lines and adjust the rules to fit their pathology.

I accuse them of crimes against this nation and humanity.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 10:56 AM
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20. Yeah, but by attacking the philosophy, you have no need to attack Bush
Bush gets attacked because he implemented the philosophy, and you come off as not being mean spirited.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:04 AM
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21. Attack BOTH. Why is this such a concrete thinking society?
They are part and parcel of the same societal ill. No matter how hard people try, you can't "outmean" this bunch.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:17 AM
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22. The elected Democrats won't be attacking Bush
Bush ends up attacking himself because the conservative philosophy will be inextricably linked forever to the failures which lead directly to the level of catastrophe here. Bush implemented those philosophies so ex post facto, Bush is to blame without having to even say it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 11:47 AM
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23. The bush administration puts ideology above reality. n/t
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:20 PM
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24. Same with Iraq. Same with Bush Doctrine. Inevitable. nt
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