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Tue Sep-06-05 09:20 PM
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Oprah started a trend today, lots of dead bodies on MSNBC |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:21 PM
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1. What does Oprah have to do with MSNBC? nt |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 PM
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2. On her show from the Gulf Coast today |
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She showed lots of the dead bodies in NO.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:23 PM
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7. I still don't understand what that has to do with MSNBC. (nt0 |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:25 PM
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I've been watching MSNBC lots throughout this whole thing and they haven't been showing that many dead bodies, tonight, they were doing close ups and part of a segment was nothing but moving images of the dead.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:32 PM
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20. NBC broadcast (Oprah's channel) and MSNBC one and the |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:33 PM
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22. She's not on NBC in my neck of the woods |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:37 PM
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26. She's on NBC in mine. I think her HARPO productions does |
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sell to other markets. I don't understand all this corporate media switcherooing anyway. I do think she is pretty much NBC which is why MSNBC picked up on it.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:40 PM
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29. In VA, she's ABC all the way. How odd! (eom) |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:23 PM
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6. Oprah did a show today |
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She went to New Orleans and into the Superdome and talked with some officials (the Mayor). One of the doctors she spoke with discussed the fact that those that were dying were put into the morgue. There simply wasn't anything they could do to help them, so they were just left to die. In the morgue.
She showed bodies. I think that was the OP's point.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:25 PM
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What does that have to do with MSNBC? ;)
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:32 PM
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What does that have to do with Oprah? ;) :evilgrin:
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:34 PM
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 PM
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3. Bush's career is over now. |
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Scarborough has nothing to gain by supporting him anymore.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:24 PM
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8. Drip, drip, drip, drip. The tide seems to be turning ... a tiny bit. |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 PM
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4. Extended NBC Nightly News.... |
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did a segment on St. Gabriel, LA tonight. Showed semis that brought the dead to an enormous warehouse in this little town. And interviewed the pathologists who will try to figure out who they are. Problem is that DNA matching may be impossible because sources of evidence (think hairbrushes, combs and toothbrushes) are lost. Possibly forever.
A horrendous task.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:25 PM
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10. One hope might be through DNA of relatives. |
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Still a daunting task, no doubt, but there is a way to match characteristics through DNA.
Hi greatauntoftriplets! :hi:
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:26 PM
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12. If the bodies are Does |
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how will they match the DNA with the families?
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:29 PM
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16. As I said, a daunting task. |
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Maybe too big a task, even if a capable person was to head it up. I was thinking of the scenario where survivors who cannot locate family can donate their DNA, and then the labs can try matching it to the DOEs. Yeah, long shot just because of what I fear will be the shear number of dead. I guess if it were me, I would want to know one way or the other if my family member was still alive and missing, or among the dead.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:30 PM
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17. if they create a database of DNA from bodies which can't |
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otherwise be identified, and of DNA from people missing relatives, they can see what the close matches are.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:31 PM
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19. Ahh! Yes, that makes sense. |
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Unfortunately, I fear whole families have been wiped out, so we'll never know who some of the dead are. Like that group of 22 people who were found tied together in the water.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:38 PM
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27. It definitely would not work in situations such as the 22 bodies. |
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But in whatever case an identification may be made, I think it should be attempted. After all, so many of these folks have already lost nearly everything. Finding out that a family member has died would be additional agony, for sure, but I wonder if NOT finding out would be worse.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:29 PM
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15. True, but they have to find the relatives as well. |
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The task is daunting.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:30 PM
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A fucking convoy of tractor trailers!
Just to transport the dead.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:36 PM
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there seems to be no other way to do it.
They had to do pretty much the same thing in Chicago in 1995 when 700 died in extreme heat. They were stored in refrigerated trucks until the dead could be autopsied. It was horrendous.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:44 PM
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30. And then there are living relatives that a cheek swab will |
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reveal DNA, not today, not tomorrow, but in the future, so I do hope they take DNA samples before they bury these people.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:48 PM
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This whole situation is FUBAR.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:50 PM
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32. They're supposed to do DNA sampling but who's to say (eom) |
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:22 PM
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5. Chilling and sad to see the dead, but they must be seen ... |
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... no way should this be whitewashed by the gov't.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:27 PM
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14. We should be seeing the dead coming |
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back from Iraq, too... but they've managed to keep that out of the news.
It's typical of this regime... out of sight, out of mind. Least that's how they think the public operates. I think they are in for a rude awakening.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:37 PM
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25. Randi Rhodes was saying that they weren't... |
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going to do autopsies... they were just going to bury the dead in a mass grave and create a memorial (that way, they wouldn't have to have an exact number of the dead). Is there any truth to this?? It sounds like a very Joseph Stalin thing to do... but it wouldn't surprise me is Bush did do this. Better to deny families closure to their grief of losing a loved one, than let the world know just how many people died from his neglect.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:39 PM
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28. The thing about mass graves is this |
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In NO, you CANNOT bury bodies in the ground, just exactly because of this. Because NO is so far below the sea level, any kind of flooding will make the bodies surface, so they shouldn't be using mass graves.
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Tue Sep-06-05 09:27 PM
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I cried the whole hour. I've never seen so much misery and suffering in my life. Bu$h and his demons need to GO. To let these idiots stay another 3 years is unacceptable. Anyone else would be going through impeachment. It's not fair for him to run rampant and break all the rules and laws and not be held accountable.It's going to take a peaceful revolution with blacks AND whites joining together.We need MILLIONS marching....not thousands....MILLIONS.
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