Anyone? MSM last night,-Locals say explosives opened ninth ward levee

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Anyone? MSM last night,-Locals say explosives opened ninth ward levee

authorities admit they had to breach levees, canal walls in spot to alleviate 'areas' , see below

anyone have the program or source? I do not have cable, so it was network news Labor Day night, but the computer is upstairs and was discombobulated from up/ down and all the varying searches on technorati for details on this unnatural disaster. What show was this observation shared? , who was the host?

Here is the work on this aspect, regarding..it wasn't the hurricane, IT Was The Flood. Please take the time to digest, review this it did grow as associative connections and necessary background, perspective developed from the culling of dynamic, interesting and credible input ...blossomed.

They told network reporter that too much dynamite was used to open the canal floodwall, actually not a true levee, to sluice water from high-rent uptown district.

here is the documentation:
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Also heard that part of the reason our house flooded is they dynamited part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being flooded. Apparently they used too much dynamite, thus flooding part of the Bywater.

www.getyouracton.com letter to family and friends @ http://getyouracton.com/blog/?p=63

It is being reported that homes in the Bywater section of New Orleans, the 9th Ward,flooded because they (some government entity) used too much explosive to dynamite part of the levee after the first section broke - they did this to prevent Uptown (the rich part of town) from being inundated with water from the Lake. Who is responsible for flooding so many homes-Katrina, or our government?
http://www.youthinkwhat.com/2005/09/food-for-thought.html
Here is my message:

I am a resident of the Bywater in New Orleans (9th Ward). I am one of the lucky ones that was able to evacuate before the storm.

I have recently managed to speak to some friends stranded in New Orleans. They are starving and dehydrating and there is no news of when they will be receiving food and water. I have spoken to relief efforts and understand that there are plenty of supplies waiting for these people, BUT THEY ARE NOT BEING ALLOWED INTO THE CITY.

http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/3941.php

and as reported by the Guardian Unlimited UK even considering it was not the main focus of the article:

But it is clear from talking to survivors that what happened in New Orleans last week was far more extensive, bloody and terrifying than the authorities have admitted so far.

'We had to wrap dead people in white sheets and throw them outside while the police stood by and did nothing,' said Correll Williams, a 19-year-old meat cutter from the Crowder Road district in the east of the city, who waded two miles through waist-high water to make it to the Convention Centre after hearing on the radio it was being turned into a refuge.

'The police were in boats watching us. They were just laughing at us. Five of them to a boat, not trying to help nobody. Helicopters were riding by just looking at us. They weren't helping. We were pulling people on bits of wood, and the National Guard would come driving by in their empty military trucks.'

Williams only left his apartment after the authorities took the decision to flood his district in an apparent attempt to sluice out some of the water that had submerged a neighbouring district. Like hundreds of others he had heard the news of the decision to flood his district on the radio. The authorities had given people in the district until 5pm on Tuesday to get out - after that they would open the floodgates.

'We thought we could live without electricity for a few weeks because we had food. But then they told us they were opening the floodgates,' said Arineatta Walker, who fled the area with her daughter and two grandchildren.

'So about two o'clock we went on to the streets and we asked the army, "Where can we go?". And they said, "Just take off because there's no one going to come back for you." They kicked my family out of there. If I knew how to hotwire a car I would have,' Walker said.

Once inside the Convention Centre, Walker confronted a new hell. 'People were being raped, there were cries and screams, there were gunshots, but the police did nothing,' Walker said.

from:

'They're not giving us what we need to survive'

Jamie Doward reports on the fury of New Orleans residents who say they were ignored and mistreated by the authorities

Sunday September 4, 2005
The Observer


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1562415,00.html

levee break in neighborhood 98% black

If New Orleans is rebuilt, it is absolutely certain that the ghettos, housing projects and notorious all-black neighborhoods such as the Lower Ninth Ward (98.3% black) will be wiped clean. Instead, New Orleans will build (with federal money) its usual boondoggle of high-end retail, casinos, luxury condos and maybe one of those new ballparks so beloved by blight-fighting redevelopment councils.

The problem New Orleans city leaders have faced for decades is what to do with the poor blacks. That problem is solved, thanks to the miraculous break of a new “hurricane proof” levee and the even more miraculous decision by the Army Corps of Engineers to not bother trying to plug the breech, despite public assurances that they would.

Those who didn’t drown or die in the aftermath are at this moment being uprooted, sent to uncertain exile in cities up north and neighboring states, where they will most likely resume hard lives with dead-end jobs, terrible schools and (at best) a roof over their head that belongs to a landlord or the government.

The poor black survivors of Katrina are being bussed away with the wet stinking clothes on their backs … unless they’re at the Convention Center, where it appears they are being intentionally left to die in full view of the news cameras. They don’t own homes, so they have no insurance to rebuild their property. If they had jobs, those jobs are gone — the rebuilding jobs will go to out-of-state contractors who own the federal government.

http://franklinavenue.blogspot.com/2005/09/national-travesty.html

"Mullen has a schoolteacher's kindly demeanor, so it was jarring to hear him say he suspected that the levee breaks had somehow been engineered to keep the wealthy French Quarter and Garden District dry at the expense of poor black neighborhoods like the Lower Ninth Ward -- a suspicion I heard from many other black survivors. And it was surprising to hear Mullen's gentle voice turn bitter as he described the scene at the convention center, when helicopters bringing food didn't even land and the soldiers 'just pushed the food out like we were in the Third World. That's what made people go off. They just pushed it at us.'"

Monday, September 05, 2005
Third World Scenes @ http://blackgold347.blogspot.com/2005/09/third-world-scenes.html




New Orleans Men Estimate They Saved 400 (ABC News)
Paddling Through Flood Waters in Their Lower Ninth Ward Neighborhood, They Pluck Neighbors from Attics
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1096328&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

breaching
Or reaching the turning point?

From yesterday's blog at The Times-Picayune:

Name: CW Kaars
Home: 269-345-5550
Email: [e-mail]

Subject: My Hurricane Story -- levies Story:

Why not string loaded barges together hold them in place with tugs than sink them in place in front of the break. This shuts down the water flow so that you have a change to fill the gap. later you can refloat. The Dutch (best water engineers in the world have been doing this for a hundred years.

8:04 p.m.
Chris Doyle from 92234 writes:
FLOODING/BREECHED LEVEES ===========================
I've written the Gov. and several people in the Netherlands. Has anyone ever thought about asking the aqua-engineers (Dutch) for assistance?

Today's paper:

New Orleans glimpsed a possible turning point Wednesday as floodwaters that had risen harrowingly for two days reached equilibrium and began spilling back into Lake Pontchartrain through breaches in the levee system, officials said.

At midday, Maj. Gen. Dan Riley, chief of engineers for the Army Corps of Engineers, estimated the floodwaters had receded by as much as 2 feet overnight and would continue to flow out of the city at a rate of about a half-inch per hour – a process that could be slowed, if not temporarily reversed, by the next high tides.

The continuing magnitude of the flooding, with some neighborhoods buried under as much as 20 feet of water, was made clear in Riley's added estimate that it would be at least 30 days before the saucer-shaped city would be pumped out.

To accelerate the draining process, engineers were making plans to punch holes in the lakeside levee, at strategic points starting in eastern New Orleans and working west to the Jefferson Parish line. The levees along the Intracoastal Waterway would also be breached to help dry St. Bernard Parish and the Lower 9th Ward.

I am figuring these guys know what they're doing; 80% of their city is now under water.

http://dogfightatbankstown.typepad.com/blog/2005/09/nolaname_cw_kaa.html

At a press conference in Baton Rouge, Louisiana’s Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu echoed statements made by New Orleans’s mayor, declaring, “We understand that there are thousands of dead people” in the city.

Grim accounts from those coming out of the worst-hit neighborhoods seemed to substantiate such estimates. Lucrece Phillips told the Times-Picayune of seeing the bodies of “dead babies and women, and young men and old men with tattered T-shirts or graying temples...floating along the streets of the Lower 9th Ward.” Rescued by boat from her attic along with five members of her family, Phillips said that the rescuers “had to push the bodies back with sticks.”

Class War In New Orleans Aftermath
Hurricane’s victims left to die on New Orleans streets
By Bill Van Auken
2 September 2005


Lower Ninth Ward, Orleans Parish, New Orleans
http://allhehasiskungfu.blogspot.com/2005/09/class-war-in-new-orleans-aftermath.html

When you think it can't possibly be worse... it is

from here:

City a woeful scene

Tuesday, 10:14 p.m.

By Brian Thevenot, Gordon Russell, Keith Spera and Doug MacCash
Staff writers

Sitting on a black barrel amid the muck and stench near the St. Claude Avenue bridge, 52-year-old Daniel Weber broke into a sob, his voice cracking as he recounted how he had watched his wife drown and spent the next 14 hours floating in the polluted flood waters, his only life line a piece of driftwood.

"My hands were all cut up from breaking through the window, and I was standing on the fence. I said, ‘I’ll get on the roof and pull you up," he said. "And then we just went under."

Weber sat among hundreds of refugees rescued Tuesday from rooftops, attics and floating debris in the 9th Ward and St. Bernard Parish by an armada of more than 100 boats. Officials from the Coast Guard estimated they pulled thousands of people off of rooftops and attics, many with stories as grim as Weber’s. Officials believed hundreds and maybe thousands more remained in peril. They declined to estimate the number of dead. That will come later.
http://daniellasmisadventures.com/2005_08_01_daniella_archive.html#112549529417851875


New Orleans Levee Break(s) Before and After
I'm probably violating all kinds of copyrights here, but since I haven't seen it elsewhere, here is that levee in New Orleans before and after the break (or at least a levee before & after). Note that the expanse of water in the after picture was formerly (or perhaps currently) occupied by houses.

The first picture comes via Matthew Harris's Flickr account, extracted from Google Earth.

http://www.kathryncramer.com/kathryn_cramer/2005/08/new_orleans_lev.html

On Friday morning, I listened to NPR and heard a story about the areas of New Orleans that were swamped with water from the broken levees. One of these areas was the Lower Ninth Ward where some of the poorest citizens dwell. This story got my wheels turning to write about this tragedy. I chose a stream of consciousness style of prose with minimal punctuation to give the sense of fluidity, as if it were a flood, a river.

The following prose is dedicated to those who have lost their lives in the floods of New Orleans.

Out of the Lower 9th

Mama I’m not scared no more hear my breath listen it is calm like a hot summer Sunday afternoon in the shade is quiet Mama I’m not scared no more of storms or deep water I can’t see the bottom of cuz it would always hide the gators and the water snakes looked like ripples or sticks upon the back of the canal or lake Mama I don’t want ya crying no more don’t want ya wasting your breath calling my name over these dark waters I’ve learned to swim learned to see underwater you would be so proud of your baby I swam across Reynes street crossed over Forstall and Lizardi and caught a current south along Caffin street I imagined myself a great White Ibsis with their white and black-tipped wings even the angels envy stretched wide right after they’ve jumped into the air to hang there as if the sky and the wind have hooks and strings then I thought I might be Jesus Christ swimming off his cross arms stretched so wide he wanted to take in the whole world with all his love and save everybody but not me because I felt the salvation swimming like Jesus would swim I swam by our churches and our schools and our stores and I’ve heard the choirs of frogs croaking to our dark streets to our people who are waiting and talking to God as they wait like you told me to talk to God tell God we’ve come a long way from the hard days but our days they’re still hard and I reckon God didn’t always hear me talkin cuz the days they never got any easier Mama I am not your baby no more I’ve lived so much fear I’m not scared no more seen too much dying that my eyes don’t blink no more Mama I’ve heard the mourning cries of mamas and their babies and lost children they echo on the flood and in the flood but I don’t cry that I’m lost don’t cry because I’m not with you because you will see Mama every hour every day my soul is feeling longer than the street longer than the day and growing long through the muggy night one day soon I’ll pass the bayou where the yellow-crowned heron nests and see the red-shouldered hawk master the sky and hear the haunting song of the great horned owl serenade the night one day Mama I’ll make my way past all the moss-covered cypress trees whose branches try to hold me back and I will be so big then you will find me Mama you will see me one day I’ll be swifter than the river and mightier than Pontchartrain one day I’ll be the sea.



Author's Note: Being from the Rocky Mountains, I don't have the vernacular of New Orleans down, so I tried being as non-descript, keeping to the Southern dialect as much as possible. I apologize if my interpretation of the language offends

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NOLA evacuation law legal language:

Blame Amid the Tragedy
By BOB WILLIAMSSeptember 6, 2005; Page A28

The city's evacuation plan states: "The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas." But even though the city has enough school and transit buses to evacuate 12,000 citizens per fleet run, the mayor did not use them. To compound the problem, the buses were not moved to high ground and were flooded. The plan also states that "special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific lifesaving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedures as needed." This was not done.

linked from....

http://www.wiederwisdom.blogspot.com/

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lopsided war on 'little' America ?




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