Tinfoil Alert: Could all this be a setup to DESTROY FEMA?

[berni_mccoy]

Is the complete and obvious disastrous handling of the Katrina recovery by the gov't be a planned execution to destroy the FEMA organization by the neocons?

It just occured to me that many things are falling in line for this to happen:

1. The appointment of the completely inept Michael Brown who has no prior disaster handling creds.
2. Bush's intentional delay in supportive action (he was the ONLY person that could have authorized certain military actions and invocations of martial law and acquistions of private resources for emergency use)
3. FEMA's apparent intentional sabotage of the rescue efforts
a. 5 hour delay in notifying Homeland Security
b. Only dispatching 1000 HS workers and giving them 48 hours, 1 day AFTER the flooding began
c. The blocking of other rescue efforts
4. RW Talking points seem to attack all levels of failure with focus on local/state, but no defense for FEMA
5. Media totally focusing on FEMA failure
6. Bush saying he will LEAD the investigation into what went wrong... he will blame FEMA (but somehow, Brown will come out with a medal of honor).

It's start to look like a setup..

I don't care if this thread get's locked due to conspiracy rules... the RW has hated FEMA from the beginning... they look at it as just another waste of taxpayer money that could be given to defense contractors.

[electron_blue]

1. IT's a setup all right. I don't know about destroying FEMA

but if we're getting our hats on, I'd say it's a setup to transfer all oil assets in the gulf over to Haliburton.

Btw - has anyone here had a chance to read the fine print of the new no-bid cleanup contract awarded to Halibut?

[mongo]

2. perhaps just the opposite

<from the middle of the article>
Intelligent critics from both left and right have for years painstakingly documented FEMA’s paramount leadership role in Continuity of Government (COG) operations and planning. Better described, COG is what will happen if Congress is nuked, if a major catastrophe makes “normal” government operations impossible, or if there is major civil unrest (or total economic collapse). Much of FEMA’s infrastructure is really dedicated to this task and not to disaster relief. The COG function and authority has been greatly expanded since 9/11. At FTW we have written about FEMA many times and discussed it at length in my book Crossing The Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil.

There is no shortage of verifiable government records confirming all this including about two score Executive Orders, The Patriot Act, The Homeland Security Bill, and a couple of pieces of legislation having to do with biological warfare enacted in the post-9/11 climate. COG work was initially begun way back in the late 1970s, and involved early input from the likes of Iran-Contra criminal Oliver North. That’s where FEMA actually came from.

If this thinking is not curtailed, then as the economic collapse of the United States becomes ever harder to conceal, FEMA will have been given a green light to impose the most draconian and heartless of measures in our country. FEMA will have the ability to divide the US up into ten autonomous regions, independently governed. Denver will be key to that decentralization and I note with irony that the CIA recently announced it was moving its National Resources (formerly Domestic Operations) Division to Denver (Washington Post, May 5, 2005) . FEMA will have the authority to confiscate any private property, food, medicine, personal vehicles, water supplies and even to impress citizens into forced labor and relocation as needed. FEMA will be able to override all local governments in a declared national emergency, quarantine neighborhoods and compel people to receive untested (for efficacy) vaccinations of drugs which may be dangerous (remember the smallpox vaccines?) and which will only enrich the pharmaceutical companies. FEMA will have the authority to confiscate firearms and gold held by private individuals. The government records proving what I say here are available in abundance and have been widely circulated over the internet for years. The little that remains of our Bill of Rights will simply cease to exist with a Code Red terror alert or another Katrina. And global warming makes another Katrina somewhere inevitable.

In short, what is being set up here is a massive, misguided and stupid effort to take convenient retribution for Katrina in a way that only ensures the more rapid demise of this once great nation. Do not put the blame on FEMA or believe that giving FEMA more money and power will solve anything. Too many of the bad decisions which cost lives in New Orleans, Mississippi, and Alabama were made at the White House, probably by Dick Cheney who has yet to make a public appearance. Condi’s been too busy shopping for $7,000 shoes in New York to do anything.

more - http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/090605_greeks_gifts.shtml

[berni_mccoy]

4. Thank you... but now I'm even more puzzled by

this... could it be just a complete and utter FUBAR by the admin? Drunk with power, they got too cocky and too sloppy? I find it hard to believe, but after what you posted, more likely than the original tinfoil-driven question.

[starroute]

8. Actually, it's both

Gut the aspect of FEMA which actually helps people during natural disasters.

Pump up its homeland security aspect in the way you describe.

There's an excellent article from a year ago at:
http://www.indyweek.com/durham/2004-09-22/cover.html

It doesn't draw the more sinister conclusions, but it gives an excellent rundown on the defunding and demoralization of disaster mitigation.

[MisterP]

9. like * expanding Gov. in the bedroom and shrinking it in the boardroom

[Emit]

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[Emit]

13. I just read that article earlier today

And I had made a post the other day asking, "...did they conveniently turn this into their 2nd new Pearl Harbor?"

It does put our democratic Republic into quite a catch 22 situation when we are forced to demand more and more assistance from feds and military to manage our lives dues to threats of natural and unnatural disasters.

In all honesty, although I'm a subscriber to FTW, I often don't know exactly what to think about some of Ruppert's stuff. Perhaps it's fear, denial...or maybe because I fear he's right. Yikes.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. Well, Bush was trying to gut FEMA from his first day in office..That is

why he put it under Homeland Security in the first place.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

5. had the same thoughts earlier tonight n/t

[coffeenap]

6. Could it really be this? OMFG. How about sending your idea to

some receptive media people? I just got that pit-of-the-stomach feeling.

[opihimoimoi]

7. I feel its to set up Roberts...He is the over all prime reason for Bush

The Pubs wish to change SCOTUS to their liking...

[kansasblue]

10. goal: " privatize" Dept of Halliburton Emergency Management

[Lydia Leftcoast]

11. I posted something along similar lines yesterday:

They'll have FEMA do such a bad job in order to make people "hate the government."

It won't be Bush's fault that rescue was delayed and botched. It will be "government's" fault, and the Republicans will call for privatizing and outsourcing all further rescue efforts, probably to Haliburton. :grr:

[milkyway]

14. More than that. It's a step toward destroying the federal government of

the United States of America. This is what happens when a subversive is installed in the Oval Office. The republican party has waged a 25-year war against the federal government, with the intention of rendering it ineffective and turning public opinion against it.

A wingnut former co-worker once said to me, "the military should be the only purpose of the federal government." (he spends half his day listening to America's favorite drug addict.) Him and the rest of the Kool-Aid drinkers probably use this past week as confirmation of that belief. Get rid of the rest of the fucked-up federal government and let the military take over everything.

[earth mom]

15. EVERYTHING Bush Co does is done with an ulterior motive. nt