'Hair on Fire' Hurricane Forecaster Briefed Bush Sun Aug 28th

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/08/30/State/For_forecasting_chief.shtml

MIAMI - About an hour after Hurricane Katrina made landfall, forecasters at the National Hurricane Center were running on adrenaline and sugar. Few had slept much in recent days, if at all.

Director Max Mayfield's eyes were puffy, his voice slightly cracked from giving interviews to media outlets around the world.

"I don't even know what day it is," said Mayfield.

<snip>

On Saturday night, Mayfield was so worried about Hurricane Katrina that he called the governors of Louisiana and Mississippi and the mayor of New Orleans. On Sunday, he even talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

"I just wanted to be able to go to sleep that night knowing that I did all I could do," Mayfield said.

Was his hair on fire? And that MF'er of a chickenhawk went on with his f'in photo-ops for two friggin' days!

[knowbody0]

1. that video is priceless

yeah!

[tk2kewl]

25. video? link is to a story. where is the video?

[BrklynLiberal]

2. So that POS knew exactly what was happening the whole time he was

partying in Arizona and California. And while he ignored the plea from the Governor of Louisiana.
To me that confirms LIHOP!

[lonestarnot]

26. LIHOP!

[SammyWinstonJack]

27. (p)Resident LIHOP. How many more Americans is he going to kill

with his inhuman inactions?

[lonestarnot]

28. let him eat yellow cake!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. Clueless

[leftofthedial]

3. the bushturd deserved to get on with his life

bein presdint is hard work!

[Land Shark]

4. Repeat: On Sunday, he even talked about the force of Katrina during a

video conference call with President Bush at his ranch in Crawford Texas.

[RamboLiberal]

5. I got the link from Joshua Micah Marshall TPM

I had heard it suggested by a knowledgable source that a White House representative was listening in when National Hurricane Center Chief Max Mayfield gave that briefing to Brown and Chertoff before Katrina hit.

But according to this August 30th article in the St. Petersburg Times, on Sunday the 28th, Maxfield arranged a video conference call with President Bush himself at the Crawford Ranch during which he explained the hurricane's force and destructive potential.

Perhaps this is common knowledge. But I hadn't heard it before. And it would seem to leave little question that the president himself knew the critical information from Mayfield before Katrina even made landfall.

Said Mayfield, according to the Times: "I just wanted to be able to go to sleep that night knowing that I did all I could do."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[proud patriot]

6. "I don't think anybody could have anticipated"

My Ass

[oldtime dfl_er]

10. anticipate impeachment!

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/818273

[eleny]

7. LIHOP

[RamboLiberal]

8. Read the actual forecast that Sunday - it reads more like a

disaster novel than any weather report you're likely to ever read. It's posted at DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4673443

And it all came true. I'd love to drop those damn Repukes and koolaid drinking Freepers in the toxic bathtub that is New Orleans.

[milkyway]

11. That's not the entire warning. Here's one of many places that posted it

Sunday (I can't search DU for my thread or the many others about the warning):

http://www.counterbias.com/blog/2005/08/yikes.html

[Sydnie]

9. Wasn't there a photo-op of that call?

I seem to remember a thread here (damn the long level three kept it from my posts) where we were talking about the fact that it looked like the phone wasn't even connected? (the phone was connected through holes in the table, but it looked like they weren't connected at all) I remember seeing the two flat screens at the end of the table with one with a weather report with the projected path?

Can anyone find that post?

[RamboLiberal]

13. Pic of Bush Video Conference on 28th

[libertypirate]

14. I knew someone would find this one... :)

[Peace Patriot]

19. Anybody know who that is, in the pix with Bush?

It's striking how empty the room is. Where are all the Bushites? Nobody interested in Louisiana being blown off the map? (Or are the real estate parcel maps in another room?)

[havocmom]

33. sneer sure looks familar. Cheny have a brother?

Ya know they don't let the Coward In Chief do any president stuff without handler supervision.

[Sydnie]

21. That's the one I was talking about - Thanks! n/t

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Look ma no wires

None of the phone appear to be plugged into anything.

It was all just another photo op.

[DoYouEverWonder]

32. Here's the advisory that they issued to the public on 08-28-05

WWUS74 KLIX 282139
NPWLIX

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER DELTA...
...DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED...

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT
LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL
FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY
DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.
PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD
FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE
BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME
WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A
FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH
AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY
VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE
ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE
WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN
AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING
INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY
THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW
CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE
KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR
HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 36 HOURS.

LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-290300-
ASSUMPTION-HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-
LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-
ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-
TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-
UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 26 TO 28 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL
ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT NEAR THE COAST AND BY 3 AM CLOSER TO THE NEW
ORLEANS METRO AREA AND PERSIST FOR 9 TO 15 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS
AROUND 175 MPH ARE LIKELY IN THE WARNED AREA BY DAYBREAK MONDAY.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET!

$$

LAZ034>037-039-046>049-MSZ068>071-077-290300-
AMITE-ASCENSION-EAST BATON ROUGE-EAST FELICIANA-IBERVILLE-
PEARL RIVER-PIKE-POINTE COUPEE-ST. HELENA-WALTHALL-WASHINGTON-
WEST BATON ROUGE-WEST FELICIANA-WILKINSON-
413 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS IN EFFECT...

HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE AREA. TROPICAL STORM
FORCE WINDS ARE CURRENTLY MOVING INTO THE COASTAL MARSHES AND WILL
SREAD NORTHWESTWARD INTO THE GREATER BATON ROUGE AREA AND
SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI LATER THIS EVENING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO ONSET AROUND 9 PM TONIGHT AND PERSIST
FOR 22 TO 26 HOURS. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS WILL ONSET AROUND
DAYBREAK AND PERSIST FOR ABOUT 5 TO 10 HOURS. MAXIMUM WIND
GUSTS OF 80 TO 90 MPH ARE POSSIBLE IN EAST-CENTRAL LOUISIANA
AND SOUTHWEST MISSISSIPPI.

DO NOT VENTURE OUTDOORS ONCE TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ONSET


http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/raw/ww/wwus74.klix.npw...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4490806

The title of my original post was "OMG, I've never read a Hurricane Advisory like this one" Too bad Bush thought, oh good everyone's going to drown' instead.

[milkyway]

12. ...and that fucker stayed on vacation another 3 days? (only reluctantly

ending it because Rove convinced him his presidency was heading down the toilet if he didn't go hug some colored people).

[psychopomp]

15. Well, THERE IT IS, then

This is proves he must take full responsibility!

[psychopomp]

16. Well, THERE IT IS, then

This is proves * must take full responsibility!

[Historic NY]

17. Rat bastard sat on his ass.....................

:nuke:

[Dunvegan]

18. As far as the under-funded and overwhelmed local governments are concerned

...this quote from Churchill sums up the President's and FEMA's responsibilities:

Churchill, deeply troubled by England's lack of preparation for World War II, said, "The responsibility of ministers for the public safety is absolute and requires no mandate. It is in fact the prime object for which governments come into existence."

[frictionlessO]

20. !!Nom the hell out of this so every freepy type out there can see it!!

[Tin Man]

22. Nom'd - Hurricane Center gave explicit warning to Bush on Sunday

from the article
On Saturday night, Mayfield was so worried about Hurricane Katrina that he called the governors of Louisiana and Mississippi and the mayor of New Orleans. On Sunday, he even talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.

On Thursday, President Bush said "I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees" - liar!!!

[enough]

23. kick

[Blue_Roses]

24. this needs to be said far and wide

this administration WILL be held accountable.

[RedEarth]

29. You've got to be kidding......bush, you mean-spirited lying bastard

[GoBlue]

34. This is just now showing up on DU greatest page?

Where have the nominators been?

[newyawker99]

35. kick

:kick: