Nightline, all houses will be bulldozed

[Robert Oak]

He's convincing people to leave because there will be "no house to come back too".

But the cameras are in the house where there is their furniture, their
photos, their cloths, their papers...

anybody getting the picture?

The poor are being moved out thousands of miles away and their houses
are going to be bulldozed...

clearly the poor will never get back to even get their possessions.

This is really starting to smell to me.

[rooboy]

1. Can anybody say Robert Mugabe? n/t

[Robert Oak]

2. who is robert mugabe? n/t

[Robert Oak]

16. dictator in Zimbabwe, bulldozed 200k houses of poor n/t

[U4ikLefty]

4. OMG, what a great analogy..can I use it???

[Melodybe]

18. Can anyone say they are going to level the place and put up ritzy

corporate crap all along the coast?

Fuck those people and their stuff, what do they care?

[craigolemiss]

3. Bulldoze then bring in Disney

I smell this coming

[tinrobot]

5. The profiteering begins...

...and the dead still aren't even counted

[longship]

6. Gotta make room for the high rises, condos, and golf courses.

Oh, and I forgot about the gated communities and the polystyrene replica of the French Quarter.

[Kurovski]

21. Sans homosexuals and hookers?

Hardly seems worth it...

[longship]

27. Consider if you're the Chimp

and you are beholden to the rapture right.

Without gays and hookers, but lots of casinos is fine. (That's the William "morales are my business" Bennett solution.)

[Tace]

32. No With Real Perverts -- Heartless Wealthy People

[HR_Pufnstuf]

7. Theyre shipping in 20000 trailers for Mississippi

NOLA folk get a cot in a sporting arena.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15162327&BRD=1433&PAG=461&dept_id=170165&rfi=6

[Robert Oak]

9. that fact is damning as hell

Now I know why Jessie Jackson on every news show was asking
why the poor were not being moved to a military base in Louisiana
that was nearby.

Damn straight Jessie, hope he brings this up again.

[FormerRepublican]

12. Yes, but MISSISSIPPI...

...has a Republican Governor who used to be Republican Party Chair, and a Republican US Senator who used to be leader in the Senate.

However could you get confused about what would happen?

:shrug: :sarcasm:

[lpbk2713]

8. All the dogs and cats will be hunted down and shot on sight.

After all the people are gone. In the name of "getting things under control".

[Robert Oak]

11. of course

and there is no doubt if they rescued them, photoed them, they would
have people paying for shipping the pets around the country to adopt them.

First they say no one can bring their pets and ripping them out of their arms, force them into places where their pets can't come..
then come in and kill the surviving pets.

This is really pissing me off.

[tyedyeto]

10. Leave now, cuz you'll never return

to any sort of recognizable city you lived in since you were born.

Who cares, you're not one of my base. <sarcasm>

[Robert Oak]

13. it's almost worse

they are making sure they can't return.

They are going to bulldoze their houses.

Now the question becomes one of compensation as well...
but that's just looking really like something very bizarre.

Anybody doing a tally of "incidents" like this against the poor
beyond the FEMA tally?

[tyedyeto]

17. Compensation of the hurricane victims

can be done wherever they happen to be re-located. Of course, the price is at an all-time low for your house since it's been flooded. And forget trying to return, your ass isn't welcome in the city you called home all your life.

[Trillo]

14. it's reported that survivors asked of their rescuers,

"Going to charge me for this helicopter ride?"

Survivors were assured there'd be no charge.

Uh, huh.

[opihimoimoi]

15. The Neo Carpet Baggers make a HOUSE call.....something Stinks here

[CountAllVotes]

20. part of the problem PERHAPS?

"Four people in New Orleans have died from an airborne bacteria." --Source: Michelle Hofland, NBC News, 'Toxic City,' (live report) - MSNBC's 'Scarborough Country,' 10:06 PM EST, Tuesday, 06 Sept. 2005

Water Pollution a Concern in New Orleans 06 Sep 2005 Four people may have died of a waterborne bacterial infection circulating in Hurricane Katrina's flood waters, and health officials took steps Tuesday to stem spread of a diarrhea-causing virus among refugees in Houston's Astrodome. The deaths appear to have been caused by Vibrio vulnificus, a germ common in warm Gulf Coast waters that's usually spread by eating contaminated food but that can penetrate open wounds, too.

Katrina Takes Environmental Toll --Warning Issued On Water 07 Sep 2005 The dank and putrid floodwaters choking this once-gracious city are so poisoned with gasoline, industrial chemicals, feces and other contaminants that even casual contact is hazardous and safe drinking water may not be available for the entire population for years to come, state and federal officials warned Tuesday.
Diseases are beginning to pop-up! This is why they want everyone to leave!

*****

Bacteria and Disease Running Rampant Through New Orleans 06 Sep 2005 The damage of Hurricane Katrina is not left to homes and buildings but in greater toll to human and animal life across the region. The city of New Orleans has become a petri-dish of bacteria and disease that is rapidly spreading throughout the flood ravaged area.

Official: E. Coli bacteria detected in floodwater 06 Sep 2005 Floodwater in New Orleans is contaminated with E. coli bacteria, a city official told CNN Tuesday.

After Katrina: The toxic timebomb --New Orleans Mayor orders 'forecful evacuation' as contaminated waters threaten an environmental disaster 07 Sep 2005 The devastation of Hurricane Katrina has created a vast toxic soup that stretches across south-eastern Louisiana and Mississippi, and portends the arrival of an environmental disaster to rival the awe-inspiring destruction of property and human life over the past week.


:kick:

[greyl]

26. The airborne bacteria story is wrong.

I realize you pasted that info from legitgov.org.
Why did you delete the part where they cast doubt on the story?

"Note: Hofland may meant four people who died of a waterborne bacterial infection."
http://www.legitgov.org/

[Fescue4u]

19. Then whats the point of rebuilding in that area?

Gheesh.

If they are just going to bulldoze everything, why on earth would they rebuild in the same spot?

The point of rebuilding NO is to save its heritage, architecture and culture. If your going to flatten the place, that defeats the whole purpose.

Hell, if they are going to do that, just fill up the bowl the rest of the way, call it Lake BUsh, and build the city on the high ground.

[Trillo]

23. "culture" bingo!

The only way to preserve what New Orleans was is to rebuild (what needs rebuilding) then invite all the displaced back.

One of the biggest failures of our economic system, especially housing, is the supposedly non-accountable value of neighbors and familiar surroundings.

[lpbk2713]

25. Cokie Roberts answered that one.

There's too many refineries and chemical plants and allied industries to just walk away and leave behind. The economic impact would be devastating.

[thethinker]

22. Those houses can be rebuilt

There is no reason to bulldoze the houses.

Houses in Houston flood often. We don't bulldoze them. That is crazy.

The government gave people in Houston low interest loans to fix up their houses after the flooding here. There are houses in Houston that have flooded several times and are still rebuilt.

FEMA has a handbook on figuring the costs of fixing up flooded houses. It has always been their policy to figure the cost, give them a loan and move on.

The houses in NO are well built. They are older than homes in Houston and built much better, even the poorer areas that I have seen.

[Robert Oak]

24. exactly that's why this stinks

you can see the houses on TV and many aren't totalled..
yet the reports are dribbling in of complete bulldoze.

[lcooksey]

30. The NO flood is different

In most floods, the waters rise then recede within a day or so, leaving behind mud and muck. Thousands of the houses in NO will have been 6 to 12 feet underwater for 1 or 2 to 8 weeks by the time the pumping operation uncovers them. In addition to the usual flood concerns over mold, the NO flood will leave behind sewage, dead bodies, petroleum products, etc. Being waterlogged for that long also means all the wood in the home is far more likely to warp than in a short flood. It's tragic, but those houses really do need to be destroyed.

[T Town Jake]

28. I hate to be cynical...

...but I just about guarantee you that there are big-name real estate developers all over the country just salivating at the prospect to get in there during the "rebuilding" and "gentrify" New Orleans.

No more troublesome poor people around to interfere with their plans to turn Old New Orleans into "New Orleans - the Disney version." They've all been shipped out to other states or are dead, you see.

And I don't doubt, either, that during the "rebuilding" process we'll hear the term "eminent domain" bandied about a good deal. This is why the Kelo decision by SCOTUS last summer was such an insidious ruling, IMO. Some here vociferously defended it as a triumph of liberal thinking - but wiser heads on DU saw how perniciously it could be abused when employed as a legal weapon against poor people. And that is likely what we will see happen in New Orleans in the months and years to come.

[Robert Oak]

29. i was thinking of seizure of private property by private corps

for the public "good" or interest.

I'll bet dollars to donuts Louisiana hasn't enacted any state law
to stop it either.

Imagine the global tourist trade if they can turn the entire city
into the next "mega theme"...

ugh, i'm horrified with images of the new corporate las vegas or
monolithic condos everywhere.

[charlie]

31. Yep

It will be tamed and gentrified, themed with that "decadent" Nawlins flavor.

Hey, you like jazz? We got Kenny G all summer at the Birthplace 'o Jazz Pavilion!