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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:46 AM
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So the mayor of No orders removal of hold-outs, military refuses to remove
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 09:48 AM by bribri16
Still no coordination! So if these people die in place, no doubt the mayor will be blamed.

AND many military in Biloxi still don't know what they are supposed to do so they are manning "check points" and the residents are complaining that they can't even get to their own property. But I am sure this definitely has to do with race...blacks will be regarded as "looters" even when they own property there are trying to get to their homes just like the people in Jefferson Parish. Meanwhile the residents and Red Cross to performing the "house-to-house" efforts that the military was supposed to be doing! Now can you see why Iraq is so fucked up?

Disgusting!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:50 AM
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1. This is going to be interesting
Rummy controls the army, the Governor controls the NG and the police. The Governor can order the NG to adhere to the Mayor's order. The only way the military can refuse is if they are being told to refuse. The bush admin is still playing big time politics in hopes of diverting attention from them down to the local and state officials.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:57 AM
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6. Posse Comitatus Act
The U.S. military cannot enforce civilian law within the boundaries of the U.S., only the NG under command of the governor, and the local police forces can enforce an order by the mayor.

Now, if the governor was to give up her authority and allow federalization of the NG troops, then the military could enforce the
evacuation order.

In this case the U.S. military is well within its rrights to refuse to enforce the evacuation order.

This is all about BushCo taking complete control of the operation, and this is just another attempt to remove the governor and mayor.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:53 AM
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2. Its against the constitution isn't it?
For regular army to perform policing activities.

This is exactly why the Governor didn't sign the agreement to federalize the Guard.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:58 AM
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7. Posse Comitatus act
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:04 AM
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9. Shows what I know.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:53 AM
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3. If FEMA Director gives the order, the military will follow that order
...we are now seeing a pissing match between local and federal authorities. More delay, more deaths, higher costs for damages now set at $150 billion and climbing.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:56 AM
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5. Not the law....
Blanco never gave up control they have to ask her if it's ok...
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:55 AM
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4. I gotta agree with the Military on this one.
Bad enough NO (local) cops forcing folks out of their houses, but to have the military do it strikes me as a wee bit un-constitutional and a very dangerous precedent.

Guess my heart is still a bit libertarian.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:01 AM
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8. FIne with them
when these people die as a result they won't be able to blame the mayor.

At least he tried and the military refused to comply. Now it's on them.



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