Ed Schultz: FEMA loses all LA food stamp recipient records.

[seafan]

Just now on his program at 3:20pm EDT.

States that he just learned this. The bad thing about this, he said, is that these records are not transferrable from state to state, so now these evacuees will not be able to prove they were receiving them.


Will look for a link.

[MildyRules]

1. How did FEMA get them to lose in the first place?

They are INCOMPETENT!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

11. FEMA INCOMPETENT? NO WAY!

:rofl: :rofl: Does this mean Brownie isn't "doing a heckavajob"? :rofl:

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. "lost" them? BS! ** is just looking for more ways to save money and kill

off the poor.

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[lumberjack_jeff]

3. It also makes it easier to understate the death toll

There are only a limited number of ways to identify who is missing. Public assistance records are one of them.

"Lost"? Replace it with "Shredded" and I'll believe it.

[MildyRules]

4. How'd they GET them in the first place?

[Mr Rabble]

15. bingo. nt

[seafan]

5. Still looking for a link. Destroying these records will make it VERY

difficult for anyone to assess the numbers of casualties. And don't think this isn't deliberate.

We have crossed the rubicon.

[all.of.me]

6. just give food stamps to EVERYONE! god knows, they all need them.

[Heddi]

7. wouldn't that be on computers?

They make it sound like they (the records) were only on paper.

Even if the computers were flooded, you'd think (THINK!) that there would be some backup disks or tapes or something---shit, the company my mom works for is an answering service, no big deal, and every night they make backup tapes of all the calls taken that day in case anything happens to the computers and records of the calls are lost.

insane.

On edit:

Wouldn't the fed gov't have records of this? Isn't this information (public assistance, child support, school loans) given to the IRS anyways to determine tax rates and amounts? Isn't that how they audit people---by going by what was reported to the IRS by the state/agencies, and what was reported to the IRS by the taxpayer/filer?

Something stinks REAL bad about this. I find it very, very, very difficult to believe that there are NO records at all, even if old records (6mos-12mos old) that have the names of people who received aid from the state....

[CountAllVotes]

8. isn't food stamps a FEDERAL program?

There are records! Lost my ass!

:kick:

[fed-up]

9. Bush's New SS program--- Drown Social Security...

What else are they planning on destroying, deleting, burning, shredding in NOLA after they kick the media out????

[seafan]

10. Ed also said that he brought a family back with him to N. Dakota.

Three of the family members are registering to go to school up in ND. Ed has raised some local money for them. Great story!

He then said that FEMA is now issuing a directive to everyone who wants to "adopt" a family: do not try to do it unless the evacuees have *been processed* first.

??????????????????????????????

Processed????????????????? Are they detainees all of a sudden? Aren't they American citizens free to travel at will?


This new Homeland Security only follows the terrorist playbook now.

3:37pm

Now he has a female AZ state rep on, talking about this processing:

1. Triage for medical needs
2. Go to Coliseum, given blankets, food, state-issued ID cards

Ed: Why can't folks take some of these people into their homes?

Answer: a non-answer

Went to top of hour news, but he will continue the interview after that.

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[Spangle]

12. For Documentation. and Level of NEED

Those who were evacuated will be more of a priority then the others.

If you pick up a family and adopt, there is no proof of "real" need. It will slow down their "need" status. Later, they might not even be able to PROVE they were an evacuee.

There will be some who complain about people having LA ID, who were working in a different state trying for aid....

To tell you the truth, it would be better if they were "processed" and given all the information right away. By those who are dealing with it. Then go to the local "office" in a different state, who has no clue what they would be elgible for, etc.

[redtapeblues]

13. What do you expect? It's the government...

[seafan]

14. More of what Ed just said with the AZ Rep:

Ed: Why armed guards outside the Coliseum?

Rep: Afraid that outsiders will try to take advantage of those inside.

Ed: Why aren't people allowed in to help?

Rep: I've been getting in... they are my new constituents. That place is full.

Ed: Wait a minute! Are you a progressive? Have you seen the devastation?

Rep: I am *the* most liberal....

Ed: ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT IS BEING DONE WITH THESE PEOPLE?? THIS IS SOCIAL ENGINEERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rep: I was a social worker before.... AZ is doing a wonderful job.... blah, blah We're getting mental health professionals....

Ed: Wait a minute!! You are calling these people unable to think for themselves!!!!! I'm not letting you get away with this!!!

Rep: I teach social work at ASU..... blah, blah

Ed: Don't tell me how good AZ is... you can't even protect the border!

Never did catch her name, darn it!

[newswolf56]

16. This is a standard welfare bureaucracy trick, most often used...

to retaliate against "troublemakers" -- that is, welfare recipients who become welfare-rights activists or who talk to the media without first obtaining bureaucratic permission. Generally it's disguised as a "computer error": the victim's records simply vanish from the system, making it necessary to re-apply, typically not just for food stamps but for the entire welfare package: food stamps, medical coupons, the tiny stipend itself. The process is complicated, lengthy, and deliberately designed to inflict maximum humiliation on the applicant.

If the food stamp records have been "lost," the general welfare rolls have probably also been lost. The obvious clandestine purpose is to throw people off welfare, forcing them to re-apply. But most displaced persons will not have the required documents -- birth certificates, proof of residence, Social Security cards etc., which means they'll have no income whatsoever, nor ever any way of getting any income. Since the vast majority of the people so victimized have no marketable skills, this is literally a death sentence.

Ultimately what we have here is one more piece of the damning, rapidly accumulating evidence that suggest Bush has now escalated from negligent genocide to open warfare against the poor.