Evacuees' stories are moving, but fence isn't (Denver Post)

[brooklynite]

If I didn't know better, I'd have thought I was peering through the fence at a concentration camp.

The signs on the buildings say "Community College of Aurora," though for now they're serving as an impromptu Camp Katrina. About 160 hurricane survivors are being housed in the dorms, surrounded by fences, roadblocks, security guards and enough armed police officers to invade Grenada.

There's a credentials unit to process every visitor, an intake unit to provide identification tags and a bag of clothes to every evacuee, several Salvation Army food stations, portable toilets, shuttle buses, a green army-tent chapel with church services three times a day and a communications team to keep reporters as far away from actual news as possible.

http://www.denverpost.com/carman/ci_3006502

[Ms. Clio]

1. It's really all starting to add up now

Will CNN et al. report it, challenge it? Well, I won't hold my breath.

[wellstone_democrat]

2. and remember who the force is aimed at

here where I am in Texas and everywhere else it is not for the safety of the residents in the shelters it is to keep them in. There are huge police presence, we can't get them to back off and the RC won't help us. If I hear the phrases "those people" or "these people" from one of them again I'm going to go nuts.

All we have here is people in another shelter with armed guards and endless offers of church services. We have 300 people and there were 4 services today with maybe 100 total attending. This upsets the other volunteers who say delightful things like "I thought black people were religious? Maybe that's only the ones who work..."

in-fucking-credible. I emailed with a vol from another state and its the same thing. Almost as many police/guards as residents. Like mine, her shelter is 90% women and children and old, old men. The families here are wondering where their men are and we can't find out.

nice. really nice. I'm off to serve dinner and help with the early evening stuff with kids so the mothers can have a break (which, btw, some vols don't think they need! try being without privacy, comfort or two moments to yourself entertaining a todler all day! Jeeeez)

bye

[Lindsay]

3. Thanks for what you're doing, wellstone_democrat.

Wish I could be there to help.

[txindy]

22. Sounds like you're surrounded by people like my fundie neighbor

The one who whispers the word "black" when she talks about someone, as in, "Well, they're black." Because, I guess, she thinks 'they' don't know that. It's a secret. :eyes: She's the most self-righteous, hypocritical, un-Christian creature that ever walked - other than her hero, the pResident.

Gov. MoFo may look coiffed and caring for the cameras, but he's obviously got the shelters locked down and guarded.

[Pirate Smile]

37. "The families here are wondering where their men are and we can't find out

Whaaa? Damnit! Why isn't the media reporting this.

Are they trying to figure out who was hurting people in the Superdome? I have seen people say there were gangs in there hurting people. There was no law in there and everyone was evacuated. Is that what is going on?

This morning on CNN, Soledad was talking to a black woman with a baby and the woman said she wanted to get out of there because the people who had been hurting people got moved also. She looked really scared. She wouldn't let her toddler run around because she seemed scared.

That was the first time I saw anything about that.

[IndyOp]

43. Who was hurting people in Superdome? - read Charmaine Neville:

I found some police officers. I told them that a lot of us women had been raped down there by guys, not from the neighborhood where we were, they were helping us to save people. But other men, and they came and they started raping women and they started killing, and I don't know who these people were. I'm not gonna tell you I know, because I don't.

I wish I could ask Charmaine if they had Louisiana accents...

[KamaAina]

40. Maybe that's only the ones who are Protestant

Maybe that's only the ones who work What a bigot. :grr: Maybe Bush** has found his new Supreme Court nominee. :sarcasm:

The dominant religion in South Louisiana and along the Mississippi Gulf Coast is Roman Catholicism, among both black and white residents. Gee, hundreds of Catholics not going to a fundie service? I'm shocked. Shocked! :sarcasm:

[Ms. Clio]

4. kicking this one

goddammit this is finally no tinfoil conspiracy theory.


On edit: I saw people getting off the plane with a line of military and fire trucks hemming them in.

What the hell is going on?

[Holly_Hobby]

5. American Gulag

has arrived!

[Ms. Clio]

6. I suppose this makes all the racists feel all warm and fuzzy

The Chimperor is protecting them from all those dangerous people.

[joanne]

7. This is absolutely outrageous and tragic

Those poor people!!

[Ms. Clio]

9. And I am really freaked out by what wellstone_demo said upthread

Separating the men from everybody else?

They appear to be treating them like Iraqi insurgents.

[Zodiak]

20. or another such thing 65 years ago in Germany n/t

[Ms. Clio]

21. Shhhhhh--we're not allowed to draw those comparisons here

Never call a Nazi by its name.

[tblue37]

44. Or the way the Serbs treated theBosnians?

[txindy]

23. Yeah, I picked up on that, too. And it doesn't sound right, at all

'Iraq' was also the first word that came to my mind, as well.

[Ms. Clio]

29. It's been coming to my mind a lot, lately

Some of the footage from New Orleans has looked just like Baghdad to me.

[wellstone_democrat]

26. elaboration on the comment

this is not universal and we are not sure who is doing this or why. It might have been early on because the first groups in some areas were women and children who didn't know where husbands were sent. Other shelter workers have told us the same. Tonight (she just called home) several men arrived to join their families. We don't know yet if it was policy, a particular Texas screw up or complaints having an effect.

But, a colleague today told me that his mother volunteering in Missouri said the same of the first flight they got: women children old men and everyone looking for the adult younger men in the family who were put on "other" buses and ended up in other locations. I know I've also seen it in threads by others---check withthe really big shelter vols from Houston or Dallas they might know what the hell this was (is).

Mr. W_D

[Ms. Clio]

28. Thank you for taking the time to share this info and for all you're doing

It would make a certain amount of sense if they used the "women and children" first routine to get people out of New Orleans and then they all ended up scattered everywhere.

[MountainLaurel]

34. The American Falluja?

Remember the U.S. telling all the women and children to leave, but all males above the age of 15 were not allowed to go.

[SoCalDem]

35. can't have them "breeding", now can they

:puke:

[CrispyQ]

41. The liberals will be next. -eom

[LSK]

8. kick and nominated

These are American citizens. Hello, they have rights!!!

[KC_25]

10. link doesnt work n/t

[Ms. Clio]

12. wow it's gone

holy fuck

[KC_25]

13. denverpost.com is down too

...maybe high volume of traffic to much for the servers?

[Ms. Clio]

15. Hmmmm maybe I hope lots of people are seeing this

[anarchy1999]

24. Here is link to Latest Breaking where seems like a dream was smart

enough to capture it for all of DU!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1761760

I forgot to say, welcome to DU.

[Holly_Hobby]

11. It's not just tinfoil anymore!

[Ms. Clio]

14. No it's not--why does the link not work anymore?

[Holly_Hobby]

16. Probably

because the site is being hit too hard from being posted here and elsewhere. Bookmark this thread and check later.

[Ms. Clio]

18. You are probably correst --- bet the site was slammed

Good, at least some of the truth is still getting out.

[Ms. Clio]

27. Link is back up now

From the article:

"It probably was easier for a reporter to get inside Gitmo on Tuesday than to penetrate the force field around Lowry."

[gnorville]

17. reporters

Are they forbidden from interviewing evacuees? I'm suprised the reporters aren't shouting that from the rooftops.

[Ms. Clio]

19. I haven't noticed them protesting the censorship of the photos of the dead

"shouting from the rooftops"--that kinda made me wince.

[txindy]

32. Give them time. n/t

[Ms. Clio]

33. Ok, txindy, I will try not to give up hope

:hi:

[txindy]

36. I think they're working on ways around any restrictions

But that they'll keep pushing the envelope that they started work on in NO last week. Too many reporters saw far too much to go back to their corporate group-think, now.

:hi: Hang in there! :hug:

[Ms. Clio]

39. Thanks, I needed that

Back atcha:

:hug:

[txindy]

25. LInk works, again

Just now.

[joanne]

30. Kick and nominated!

Please, we need one more nomination!

[txindy]

31. 5th nomination. An important story.

:kick:

[tinrobot]

38. Are they preparing to "volunteer" a new army?

I can see the young men displaced by this tragedy being shanghaied and sent to Iraq.

[bobbieinok]

42. being 'press-ganged' by the US military

[walldude]

45. I'm in Denver.. I'll head down there tommorow

and get some pictures....

[Ms. Clio]

46. Thanks, walldude, I look forward to hearing from you on this n/t

[stickdog]

47. Negro Internment Camp.

Fascistic eugenics
A movement barely alive
GOPmen, we can rebuild it
We have the technology
We have the capability to build the world's best concentration camp
One that would put Orwell's Big Brother to shame
We can make them better than they were before
Better. Bigger. More insidious than before ...

[Mein Bush]

48. There will be a right-wing-freak-show call to put them to work!

This of course would show the likes of Sean and Rush that they appreciate the assistance they are being "given".