Christian Wire: Chuck Norris to tout Bible study in public schools.

[Bluebear]

WASHINGTON, Sept. 7 /Christian Wire Service/ -- Chuck Norris and his wife Gena will join with Alveda King and spokespersons for the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools (NCBCPS) to speak about the widespread inclusion of an elective Bible course in schools nationwide. Momentum continues to build in spite of recent unfounded opposition by a liberal organization.

Press Conference Details---

Where: National Press Club, The Holeman Lounge, 14th & F Streets NW, Washington, D.C

When: Friday, Sept. 9, 1:00 P.M.

Who:

-- Actor Chuck Norris and his wife Gena

-- Alveda King, founder of King for America (niece of Martin Luther King), former college professor and published author

-- Mike Johnson, attorney with Alliance Defense Fund, board member of NCBCPS

-- Steve Crampton, chief counsel for the American Family Association Center for Law and Policy, board member of NCBCPS

Why: The Bible is building momentum as the newest elective textbook on the high school curriculum scene. Over 1,100 high schools in 37 states are set to begin this year offering the course by the NCBCPS, a national educational advocacy group. Free copies of the curriculum will be made available for the press.

Elizabeth Ridenour, President, National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public School says, "The NCBCPS curriculum has never been legally challenged because it clearly passes Constitutional muster. It is ironic that liberal groups which claim to be against censorship are now attempting to become the biggest censors in America." :rofl:


http://www.earnedmedia.org/ncbcps0907.htm

[Neocondriac]

1. Damnit to hell......

And I thought Norris had done enough damage to America with that "Walker, Texas Redneck" tv show.

[mattclearing]

2. Chuck Norris is a Christian? n/t

[Bluebear]

3. Evidently. And what's with Dr. King's niece? nt

[immoderate]

16. King's niece is a religious fanatic.

Norris is even farther out. In his series, which supposedly was police drama, the plot would often center on people with magical powers, or ghosts, or psychics, or Indians with visions who can communicate telepathically with animals. Norris is comfortable with things woo-woo.

I actually liked his show. It was a comfortably predictable morality play where there was no ambiguity about who were the good guys and who were the bad guys. And each episode had at least three well choreographed fight scenes.

My favorite Norris scene is the climactic battle with the escaped criminal who has commandeered a river raft and forces the rafters to take him down the rapids to freedom. But the guy is being pursued by Walker, who catches up, and they fight. But the final blow is a head butt delivered by Walker to the thug, even though the guy is still wearing his helmet! Head butt to the helmet -- knockout!

Chuck has never been about the promotion of reality.

--IMM

[LostinVA]

32. His niece is REALLY homophobic, too

She's amide many nasty comments, and uses the King name and being MLK's niece to lend cred to her disgusting, bigoted statements. Coretta Scott King and MLK's kids have done their best to counteract these comments with very public statements calling for gay civil rights.

[CrispyQ]

4. Isn't that what Sunday school is for?

I can barely believe what this country is becoming!

[formerrepuke]

5. Which Bible? There are different versions.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Exactly

Ask him if he would like to teach the Quran while he's at it. Or the Santanic Bible.

[PatsFan2004]

6. After reading his latest biography, I learned that

Carlos (Chuck) Norris has changed and matured a lot in his Christian life most recently. It was only after a pastor recommended that the Norrises study the Bible seriously did Chuck Norris start changing his very worldly ways. Chuck Norris like many Christians was subsisting on very meager Christian teachings from his youth. Without a strong relationship with God, he did not set a good example to others but he did see God working in his life.

Since studying the Bible has helped the Norrises straighten out their lives, they have tried to encourage others to do the same.

[Bluebear]

7. I wish he would encourage people to study it on their own

and not in our public schools.

[PatsFan2004]

11. At least this course is an elective. At a school that I taught

at many years ago, we had one day elective classes where there was a wide variety of subjects from the Bible as literature to magic.

I see no problem as long the course is truly elective and doesn't teach doctrine.

[Bluebear]

12. Bible and magic taught the same day!

The mind reels. Still, this is evidently a whole curriculum, not a one day sampler class. I see it as totally inappropriate for a public school, and find it fantastic that they call liberals censors!

[CottonBear]

8. Well, he can encourage them to study the bible in Sunday School

and not in the public schools. It's fine that he has found a religion he likes but he has no right to impose it on others.
The study of the bible in public schools is Un American and unconstitutional to boot. That's what religous schools are for.
:grr:

[PatsFan2004]

13. As mentioned, this course has passes Constitutional muster, and

is not a study of religion but is more like the Bible as literature. I took such a course in school myself. As a youngster, I only knew about the Lord's prayer. I got to see more of what the hubbub was about.

[CottonBear]

20. No way. I had to take bible classes in 5th grade while my Jewish

classmate sat in the hall (like she was being punished.) And what about the Muslims, Unitarians, Budhhists, Wiccans and Aetheists?
No way. We can not go there ever again. Go to Sunday School.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Yes

In my high school we had a class that was called Bible History. It was on the old and the new testaments and all types of people took the class. It was optional and if you didn't take it you wouldn't have failed or anything like that. I took it and learned a lot and it helped me personally with my faith and grow in my Bible knowledge. On the first day before the teacher began she made the point that by law she couldn't preach to us. So the book was strictly historical (like you'd take US history but with the Bible). It was a pretty good course and I enjoyed it. And what a sad thing it is when we leave out our other religions in this country. I get so sick and tired of it. We aren't a Christian nation and it's about time people learn that. The founding fathers were not Christians and didn't like Christianity. Even Abraham Lincoln didn't subscribe to it.

[PatsFan2004]

28. I appreciate your comments. There is a great book by Peter

Marshall, I believe, that describes in detail the religious life of many of our founding fathers. You would be surprised at what they believed. Much of it is documented from their own written notes and prayers. George Washington wrote some fantastic prayers. Lincoln was a spiritual giant later in life.

Education is so important to our children. It gives us the facts to make proper decisions in life.

[PatsFan2004]

29. All I can add is that my parents did not take me to Sunday

School. My only knowledge of Christian things was from TV which can be a terrible educational medium.

[ForrestGump]

9. Chuck's a thoroughly decent man

I thought he'd always had a pretty strong moral compass, anchored in Christianity. I admire the dude in many ways, but I'd fight him on this one.

[PatsFan2004]

21. I also admire him. He has dedicated time and money to

help children in schools. He has a program to teach martial arts to school children to give them self-confidence and give them something to do besides hanging out with gangs.

BTW, a favorite Walker episode is on next week, A Ranger Christmas. In this episode, the command to love your neighbor as yourself is illustrated to the extreme as a convicted robber (though innocent) sacrifices his body to protect a Texas Ranger.

[ret5hd]

14. Where does he stand on teaching the doctrines of...

The Flying Spaghetti Monster?


or,

The Church of the SubGenius?


yeah, i didn't think so. maybe he oughta stick to preaching the message in churches.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. I guess he missed the gospel books with Christ

and a lot of what Christ said. Tsk.

[leftofthedial]

10. someone oughtta kick his ass

er, someone else.

[Borgnine]

15. This must be a clip from the "Walker, Texas Ranger Lever"

[Reformed_republican]

17. Maybe we should "invent" a Few courses as well.

Lets see. How about

"Islam and you."

"Wicca in Theory and Practice."

"Voodoo 101: A beginners guide to basic Curses and Hexes"

"The Complete guide to Buddhism."

"The Revelations of L. Ron Hubbard"

Yes come Mr. Norris Come open Pandora's Box.

:popcorn:

[PatsFan2004]

18. Agreed. But I am serious. I would have been very interested in a course

about Islam and the Koran in high school. Too many folks are shooting off their mouths about things that they know so little about. It is bad enough that so many spout about Jesus's teachings when they don't know what they are talking about. We have so many folks denigrate Islam only knowing about Arab terrorists.

[Bluebear]

31. good syllabus. Yes, bring it on, Mr. Norris

[Dinger]

19. As Long As It's MY Bible (DU or Buzzflash)

I am a Christian and a public school teacher, but if that fucker ever thinks he can force his shit on my and my students, I'll kick his ass!

[FreedomAngel82]

27. Same here

I want to be the one's to teach my children religion. There are many different denominations. Who will teach it? The Catholics? Baptists? The teacher I had Bible History with was a Baptist and I'm Church of Christ. Would they preach strictly on the Bible or by how they were brought up? My teacher in Bible History did strtictly the Bible since she was not allowed to preach to us. Most parents want to be able to teach their children about religion. This is a first amendment thing and in my opinion steps on that boundry and goes against that law. If Norris is serious about taking action on this I'm sure a good lawyer will step up and take him to court on this. Sometimes I want to be a lawyer just so I can fight people like this who want to step on other people's rights and doesn't care about their beliefs.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. Oh ignorant Chuck Norris

If he came to my alma mater he'd know there's already a Bible class there. It's called Bible History. The law states you can't preach hon. Please won't someone educate these people? Please?

[Ilsa]

26. Bible lessons right after Asskicking 101?

Why doesn't he teach and promote kickboxing instead?

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30. hate to tell you all but this is not what Jesus

wanted or GOD
God made man of free will
Jesus did not want anyone forcing anyone to believe he wants them to decide themselves
THESE PEOPLE NEED BIBLE SCHOOL

[Bridget Burke]

33. Norris was already a friend of the NCBCPS....

Does this latest announcement mean he's going on the payroll? He's on the link page, along with the Creation Evidence Museum, Creation Science Evangelism & the Center for Reclaiming America.

www.bibleinschools.net/sdm.asp?pg=links

The group is a less-insane front for the folks who want to shove their version of Christianity down everyone's throats.

Mark Chancey, who teaches biblical studies in the religious studies department at Southern Methodist University's Dedman College of Humanities and Sciences, wrote a 32-page report for the (Texas Freedom) network critiquing the material. Chancey supports the study of the Bible by public school students, but he finds fault with the approach taken in the National Council's curriculum.....

In his report, Chancey gives the teacher's guide for The Bible in History and Literature a failing grade on at least three counts.

He maintains it is a sectarian document that "attempts to persuade students to adopt views ... held primarily within certain conservative Protestant circles."

He asserts the scholarship is shoddy, failing to cite sources clearly and sometimes reproducing other materials word-for-word without sufficient attribution.

And, he said, "Much of the course appears designed to persuade students and teachers that America is a distinctively Chris-tian nation."

The above excerpt is from that notorious Radical Liberal publication--"The Baptist Standard."

www.baptiststandard.com/postnuke/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=3788