Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

will LA, Alabama, and Mississippi turn purple?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:18 PM
Original message
will LA, Alabama, and Mississippi turn purple?
will there be a rebirth of the Democratic party as a viable alternative in these states?

There are a lot of whites getting stomped on in these states.

and what about the effect in TX and Arkansas and Georgia from taking on so many refugees?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. Mississippi already has the most liberal youth of all red states
so in answer to you question, purple, purple, baby we're going blue!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Sorry folks........
I wish that was the case and you may well see some Democratic gains, but there is too strong a Bible belt running through this region and their ministers control their votes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. You are so wrong, you don't know what you are talking about.
You think poor rednecks don't hurt every time they fill up their car?

Do you forget that states like MS and AL have huge black populations?

You're just wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Poor rednecks have voted Republican
for the past 25 years, pain or no. The Southern Strategy works. You're the one who's wrong.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:25 AM
Response to Reply #7
31. Perhaps our dismissing them as "rednecks" has something to do with it?
Poor folks are very good at spotting snobbery, even (especially) among those who claim to be their friends.

Sorry, but no genuine progressive uses classist terms like "redneck" or "white trash."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:27 AM
Response to Reply #31
32. Take it up with Melodybe n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Centurrion Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. These "Poor Rednecks"
Are still blaming Clinton for the gas and everything else because there poster cowboy W can't do no wrong. Trust me I lwork with these people everyday. I even got called a sissy for my Kerry Edwards bumper sticker, yet theose same rednecks were to afraid to serve in the Armed Forces Like I did. These people vote Republican because it is the "Cool" thing to not be a "sissy Liberal" Plus every Liberal wants to take their Guns and they hate Jesus. That is the line of thinking of these people.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Report from Arkansas
sure, some preachers may try and make Bush out to be the Second Coming, but most folks I've met in NW Arkansas (the reddest part of the state) are checking their Bibles for the profile of the Anti-Christ.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:22 PM
Response to Original message
2. Don't hold your breath...
...there are tons of folks here spouting the official Shrubco rhetoric.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:30 PM
Response to Original message
5. Displaced Democrats
What will happen to the voting rights of the displaced? I'd guess that NO was a more liberal, or at least Democratic-leaning, area of the state. Losing the NO voters, LA may just get redder, despite any anger on the part of local Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. That's my fear too...... They're in Texas - Don't forget.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. New Orleans will be blood-red from now on.
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 06:31 PM by SoCalDem
Those poor folks will NOT be going back..no matter their color..

Disney-Stepford (New-New Orleans) will be a pricey kitschy place with condos & casinos & chi-chi restaurants & shops..

there will be a need for some service jobs, but these jobs will be for the newly-crashed middles who lost it all.. The really poor have been sent off to wander the US, relying on the "kindness of strangers".. they will be welcome for a while...while the US govt is giving them and their new communities 'guilt money'..but that money will dry up sooner than we think, and these poor people will be stranded in a faraway state, away from their support system, broke..and reviled by the community who now WILL have to take care of them..

They will never again be a voting bloc..they have been rendered ineffective..

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #5
23. Katrina Didn't Discriminate When People Died
Pubs and Dems died. However, the situation was handled so gaddamn bad, that I bet those that get out don't go back. You know, it is my opinion that if you are a U.S. citizen, you can vote - NO exceptions! The pubs would NEVER win another election -even DIEbold couldn't account or cancel out a 90% Dem landslide!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:40 PM
Response to Original message
8. 2004 Election results by state....
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 05:43 PM by SofaKingLiberal
LA Bush 57 Kerry 42
MS Bush 60 Kerry 40
AL Bush 63 Kerry 37

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/


Those are pretty big gaps. I'm afraid it will have to get much worse before people wake up and turn blue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:53 PM
Response to Original message
9. Newer Jesusland maps...


and later if Mississippi gets rolled in...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. I will respond as politely as possible.
This map (and any like them) is just as offensive as they have always been to all races, all nationalities, all faiths, ALL DEMOCRATS and just people in general who live in this imagined green area and could possibly be looking for a better way.

We ask and invite people here where Democrats, Liberals and Everyone should be WELCOME.

This does not look like a WELCOME MAT.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
22. I agree
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 07:23 PM by CountAllVotes
I have lots of folks from that part of the USA and they are not all a bunch of stupid redneck Jesus freak Republicans either. Many are however a repressed people, many do not vote for they are so very hopeless.

It is very wrong to place a group of individuals into one big clump. It is racism. It happened to me very recently in a much different way but it was highly offensive and I did not appreciate being identified in such a manner. :(

Hang in there. I do know what you mean and just remember, you are not alone.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Thank you
We are working to educate the hopeless and non-voters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 06:46 AM
Response to Reply #10
26. I live in "Jesusland"
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 06:47 AM by theHandpuppet
And frankly I'm not offended at all by that map. The truth hurts. Look at my home state of Ohio -- how could my fellow Buckeyes, whose state has been ripped to pieces by the GOP, still vote for scumbag idiots like Schmidt and Taft (the Bush vote was rigged) -- and watch out folks, here comes Blackwell and the "Ohio Restoration Project"!

At least here in WV we have two Dem Senators and a Democratic Governor. Now there might be a quibble. A state like Maine has two Republican Senators but they're not Jesusland solely because of the Presidential vote? Pennsylvania is not Jesusland though they gave us Rick "I am a lunatic!" Santorum while WV gave us Robert Byrd?

So as I see it, the only problem with the map is that it is based SOLELY on the presidential vote. Things are a bit more complicated than indicated by that map. But offended? No -- it looks as if we simply have to roll up our sleeves and get to work!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. I think it's funny.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. Could you elaborate? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #17
33. The maps are funny in their over-simplistic nature, just like the
jesus freaks. They're all or nothing: Totally black and white, and childish in their worship of the toad king. So, the map makes fun in a way that they behave. Obviously, everyone knows that the cities are democratic, and the country is red. After all the election debate, that's clear. But it's funny to exaggerate the idiot minority across the country and call it Jesusland. That's their mentality: Fantasyland, Adventureland, Futureland, Frontierland, and Jesusland.

I call it all la-la land. They're not despicable because their religous, they're despicable because they choose to be sheep.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:11 PM
Response to Original message
11. Louisiana will....
but Alabama and Mississippi will NEVER go blue unless Democrats promise to reinstate slavery.

(Sorry to the many fine Democrats who live in those states, but you know more than anybody that I am right.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #11
21. Respectfully,
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 07:18 PM by Alamom
as "right" as you were about the last Election in Louisiana ?

To mention "reinstating slavery" is offensive to all people who are working to unite our states and our country.


The entire South just took an incredible hit that will have economic consequences all over the country. (Of course, NOLA the worst.)


This feels like being hit again for no productive purpose.

If I missed a purpose in this, please point it out.


edit:spelling
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:18 PM
Response to Original message
13. The Florida Panhandle Too
It would not take much in northwest Florida to turn that good state back to sanity.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. Florida is really a blue state - we were robbed twice.....
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:09 AM
Response to Reply #19
28. That still doesn't explain Jeb Bush or Mel Martinez
Florida has a long way to go before I'd consider them blue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:10 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. Florida isn't blue
Miami, Ft. Lauderdale and West Palm Beach are blue but the rest of the state is...hopeless.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr_King Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
18. They're are...
Millions of people in this country that can vote and don't including people in the south.

If we can get those people to vote (whicn more then likely would be votes for Democrats) then we could turn a lot of states blue.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
20. the sign from the Superdome says ...
COME HOME BUSH (upper right corner, barely visable of course) ... saw this much larger on Oprah yesterday!


COME HOME BUSH

I'd say *'s lost a whole lot this time around. This is bigger than 9/11, bigger than Abu Ghraib. This is the end of this nazi regime I can only hope! They have been exposed and it took the forces of God and nature to oust this great EVIL.

KEEP HOPE ALIVE!





Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 06:32 AM
Response to Original message
25. does anyone have a feel for how the demographics will shift?
eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 06:55 AM
Response to Original message
27. They already are purple...
As is most of the country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:12 AM
Response to Original message
30. Only if you make it hold its breath.
Bush and the gamn will spin the shit out of this, and those tards will buy it.

Sad thing is, critical thinking is not allowed in the RNC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 05:59 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC