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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:36 PM
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Different Mutiny Report
This is a news item that is currently being 'independently' verified in Baghdad:

"Reports are emanating from Iraqis who are working with the Americans, (both at the Baghdad International airport and in the Green Zone), of a mutiny that had occurred among the American soldiers against their officers. (emphasis added)

Three days ago, one American soldier went into hysterics upon hearing of the death of the three members of his family in New Orleans.

Corporal Nick Lancer shouted:"This is the curse of Iraq. My family paid for my crimes in Iraq. Send us back to help our families. God damn you Bush and Rumsfeld".

Matters escalated when an officer tried, by force, to calm Lancer down. Lancer was then joined by other soldiers who started to beat the officer. The fighting escalated when other officers tried to intervene in the melee and the soldiers began attacking and hitting them with their riffle butts. This included the beating of Iraqi senior army officers who attempted to help the American officers.

The soldiers were shouting:"You scoundrels. We will throw you out to the Resistance to kill you. It is because of you that we are getting killed here".

At one point, one of the soldiers radioed other fellow soldiers, who were out on patrols, to stop their mission and to return quickly to join them."

Mutiny among occupation soldiers September 2, 2005 (in Arabic). The specific location of the disturbance was not specified. Awaiting further confirmation.

http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m15387&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Arabic link referenced: http://www.alkader.net/sep/ajeel_050903.htm
(Your computer needs an Arabic character set to see the report)
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:38 PM
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1. hmm

I don't know if I quite believe this....
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:47 PM
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2. "You scoundrels"...
That doesn't pass the smell test. I doubt if too many GI's would use that phrase to describe anyone. Assholes, bastards, yes, scoundrels, please...
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:53 PM
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3. Reread the account It was relayed throught Iraqis
who maybe translated it wrong.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:54 PM
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4. of course translation between languages...

Can introduce awkward phrases like this. Clearly it's not a direct quote, but if the story was told in Arabic (or whatever language) and then translated to English something like this would not be too odd.

Still, I agree, not totally convincing.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:55 PM
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5. Agreed
"Scoundrels" sounds like something translated from the Arabic...as I suspect it was, in someone's propaganda department. If something *this* big had happened, it would have leaked to someone by now. I'm open to anything being possible right now, but this doesn't seem very credible.
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:55 PM
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6. Translated. Even if they used the language we would
expect, it would be diluted for an Islamic audience. Foul language is frowned on.
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philarq Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:03 PM
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7. sounds more like the British in the Crimea
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 11:04 PM by philarq
Perhaps written by Kippling? --You Scoundrels---American soldier prob would have just fragged the guy--

---Still need more confirmation
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:09 PM
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8. No mutiny occured until Rumsfeld denies it happened...
Sort of a Catch 22
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