My elderly mother got into an argument with another elderly

[merbex]

resident of the Senior complex where thay both live

The other resident started in with "Why didn't those people just leave?"

My mother answered that they didn't for many reasons, primarily because they had no means of transportation out of the city and that the conditions that they were subjected to at the Superdome and Convention Center was criminal

The other resident immediately raised her voice and said "This is not Bush's fault!"

My mother lauched into facts about what Bush was doing and not doing,Brown's lack of qualifications etc.

It escalated from there. These are 76-80 year old women. My mother was almost crying when she told me

This is what you've done to America George. You've got senior citizens yelling at each other.

Proud of yourself?

Worst President Ever

[Mairead]

1. Why shouldn't they yell at one another? They're just older, not dead

[merbex]

2. We used to be a civil society

for 2 elderly women who probably consider themselves ladies to argue heatedly about politics is horrible

The lack of compassion exhibited by the far right and those that identify with them is also frightening to my mother

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. LOL: Now we're the ones constructing a Golden Age

WE were never a "civil society," and old women always faught about politics, even when they couldn't vote.

[madeline_con]

6. Thank You! LOL!

Little old ladies can be tough.

[Darth_Kitten]

7. damn straight they can be......

I wouldn't want to rassle with them. ;)

[skooooo]

16. when was that?

[tsuki]

3. Have your Mother tell the other senior about the 23 Nursing Home

victims drowned in Chalmette. Have her ask the other senior if he/she thinks those victims deserve a little ACCOUNTABILITY, or if they deserved it because they were victims?

[merbex]

4. It is the lack of empathy that bothers my mother

how that other woman couldn't seem to understand that poverty and helplessness exists and that government should provide a helping hand
especially in a catastrophic crisis

The huge divide bothers my mother

[Darth_Kitten]

9. Good that she spoke up!!

:hi: :thumbsup:

[Mairead]

10. And that's what makes her anger appropriate (nt)

[tsuki]

18. I can understand how she feels. I see it everyday in NW FL. And

we felt the effects of Opal, Ivan & Dennis. People seem to have forgotten how they crowded FEMA.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. Oh of course

You should remind them that. Make them think about it.

[madeline_con]

8. That other "lady" can ask me why WE can't leave, with Ophelia ...

looming off the coast. We have enough gas to get halfway to lots of places, enough $ in the bank for groceries 'till next payday, and enough plywood to board up.

And we're not cosidered poverty level. We live paycheck to paycheck, just like millions ofd other Americans.

We expect some water if we end up on the roof, because we pay taxes!!

[Paradise]

11. Mama mia!!! I like her style! !!

Please give a :thumbsup: and a :hi: to your fantastic mom!!!

[SheilaT]

12. The other woman

needs to see the clip of Aaron Broussard describing how his co-workers mama kept calling from her nursing home and hearing that help was promised on Tuesday, on Wednesday, on Thursday, on Friday. "And on Friday night she drowned."

And that's just one story of the thousands of such stories of the hurricane.

[txindy]

13. That woman really does need to see that clip

That could've been her, just as easily. While she drowned, though, she could've comforted herself, thinking, "This isn't the pResident's fault!" :eyes: Delusional until the end.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. I would show it for sure

Who cares if it's insensitive not to show it. They need to see the truth and sometimes the truth hurts. I would rather know the truth then to be lied to and have fuzzy feelings.

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. Old folks have always yelled at each other about politics.

Often, just so they can hear each other. (bada bum!)

It's one of the things they can still do, and do with greater impunity than young people.

Your mother hear about the nursing home? Apparently they were told they would be evacuated, and they waited until the flood waters were in the building, then the staff fled to save their own lives (I don't doubt some of them perished with their charges) and 30 patients died in their beds.

Why didn't they leave?

She should point out that THEY could be in the very same position.

[quisp]

15. Tell your mom we're proud of her

for not backing down. Calling people on hatefulness isn't easy, but necessary.

[PA Democrat]

17. Good for your mom, merbex

IMHO, the Bush administration has made it acceptable for people to express things that in the past were considered politically incorrect. Under the cover of the Republican mantra of "personal responsibility" it's now OK to blame the victims of this catastrophe.

For God's sake, Bush's own mother by example, has made it OK to say that those people displaced by the hurricane should be happy with any damn scraps that the government throws their way. After all, they were "underprivileged" to begin with, and so should be content sleeping on cots with no privacy, with thousands of other people in the Astrodome.

Bush has made it acceptable for people to express their previously hidden contempt for the poor , for blacks, for the most vulnerable of our citizens. He leads by example, and has brought out the ugliest elements of this country.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Aw

:( I'm glad your mother stud up to them though. They should know. I get so tired of this "it's not the president's fault" nonsense when we all know they'd be blaming Clinton or Kerry or Gore if they were president. *sigh* On Stephanie Miller's show earlier this morning a rightwinger called in and said it wasn't Bush's fault and then on down the line said how it was all Clinton's fault! :eyes: So it's only a certain president's fault.

[Corgigal]

22. resident of the Senior complex where thay both live

The lady that was arguing with your mother lives in a senior complex and doesn't understand that people can be too ill to move?

What flipping world does she live in? How can anyone who lives around the elderly not see that? How can someone who is elderly not understand that tomorrow you might have a bad luck of health?

I understand some denial, but this takes the cake.

[ArkDem]

23. Spend some time in a nursing home. I am at one several hours

a week. They actually attack one another at times.