Wow, my Freeper neighbor just came over....(holey crikey!)

[CoffeeCat]

My daughter and I were out raking the leaves earlier this morning.

My car, which sports a "John Kerry For President" bumper sticker, sat on the driveway.

We just moved into our neighborhood a month ago. I've never had a political discussion with any of our friendly neighbors, and was unaware that I was living next door to a real, live Freeper.

As he walks past, we exchange friendly "hellos" and he says, "Nice bumper sticker."

I wasn't sure WHAT to say. I wasn't sure where he was going. And hey, I have to share a property line with this guy for the next few decades!

"Yeah," I said calmly. "I'm kinda still in mourning and I keep the bumper sticker on to let people know that I didn't vote for George Bush."

He looked at me and said, "Do you want to know something ironic?"

Oh no, I thought. Here we go...

With rake in hand, prepared for some verbal sparring, I braced myself.

"I don't know if you noticed, but our minivan had a "W" sticker on it." I chuckled and replied, "No, sorry I missed that!"

"Well, guess what," He said, "I scraped it off last night."

I'm such a smart ass. I was trying to keep things light, and I said, "What...were you replacing your small W with a life-sized poster of the president?"

He looked defeated. And somber. He said, "I voted for the man. Twice. I supported the Iraq war. I still do. I've been a Republican all of my life and my father was a Republican state representative. Anyone can see that he's lying about the hurricane disaster. My wife and I are in shock. We voted for Bush because we agreed with him on terrorism, family values and abortion. We feel betrayed."

He continued, "What bothers me the most if that he's lying. They left people to die and they continually lie about their response and their inability to get into New Orleans. It's all lies. It makes us wonder about all of the other lies."

Ok, I would have liked to bopped him over the head with my rake and screamed, "I told you so!" but this guy was clearly in mourning. He believed in something and someone--and now he was seeing the muck beneath the campaign slogans and political marketing.

I actually felt sorry for him.

I said, "You know what. It's ok. George Bush is only one man. He's not the entire Republican party. The Republican party will be ok. He fooled a lot of people. Work to hold him accountable and make sure you express your views to your Republican friends, so something can be done."

He said, "Oh, They know now. That's all they're talking about. They know."

So....that's what happened in the middle of America, in the suburbs. I hope little miracles like this are happening all over our country.

[elehhhhna]

Happening here in Sugar Land, Tom's Delay's hometown.

[Brother Buzz]

71. Hoot! And I see Delay is still Bush*s strongest supporter...

His 2006 reelection campaign is sure going to be interesting to watch as the Bush* numbers continue to tumble. Do you think even Delay will have to back away from Bush* for political survival?

[Sweet Freedom]

85. Oooo...like what?

I'm in SL too -- glad to know there's another dem nearby! :hi:

[texpatriot2004]

119. Really? In Sugar Land? n/t

[Occulus]

1. You can fool some of the people some of the time...... n/t

[spuddonna]

120. 'Can't get fooled again' heh heh! n/t

[flakey_foont]

2. Thank you for sharing that

interesting, isn't it, that there are so many similar stories these days,,,,people who voted for shrub, now turning away and regretting it, yet, I, for one, have yet to come across any stories of someone going the other way and joining the Dark Side

[FreedomAngel82]

80. I wouldn't be surprised

if they just stay home and don't vote in 2006 and 2008.

[KyndCulture]

3. Whoo hooo ! What a great story!

I hope this is happening EVERYWHERE!

oh and I woulda probably said "we told you so" before I even realized it came out of my mouth. lol

[ewagner]

4. I'm holding my breath

because I'm almost afraid to believe what I'm seeing/hearing.

I received MANY similar comments from Repubs while manning the County Party Booth at the fair last weekend. It's almost too much to hope for.

I've never disliked Republicans, we have always been able to get along just fine together but this George W. Bush** personality cult group scares the crap out of me...fortunately they are about to be overrun by the "paleo-conservatives"......I hope.

[mwb970]

38. I agree about Republicans vs. Bush cultists.

I honestly don't think it's Republicans per se that are the problem, even though I generally don't agree with them. But these cult people who blindly back Bush with no regard for the consequences of anything he says or does, now that's scary.

[Toots]

I disagree totally with you

These people are Republicans and voted for Bush* because of Republicanism not because of Bush*. Remember how Clinton was treated? These people were the cheering section for the Clinton abuse. If they truly believed Bush* was any of the things they say I wonder why. What has Bush* ever accomplished to give them that idea? They have never paid one whit of attention to Bush*'s past or his business history. It isn't Bush* they back it is the Republican agenda. That is not going to change anytime soon and Bush* is a lame duck anyway. Nobody is going to vote for Bush* again but they will still vote for their Republican Agenda and that is what is destroying America not Bush*. It is the Republican LIES not bush*'s LIES that need to be addressed.

[FreedomAngel82]

82. You have to remember

there were republicans who voted for Kerry last year. My mom used to be a republican (last year she was one and she left the party earlier this year) and my grandparents voted for Kerry and they were republicans too. My grandmother doesn't like Bush at all.

[Toots]

46. I disagree totally with you

These people are Republicans and voted for Bush* because of Republicanism not because of Bush*. Remember how Clinton was treated? These people were the cheering section for the Clinton abuse. If they truly believed Bush* was any of the things they say I wonder why. What has Bush* ever accomplished to give them that idea? They have never paid one whit of attention to Bush*'s past or his business history. It isn't Bush* they back it is the Republican agenda. That is not going to change anytime soon and Bush* is a lame duck anyway. Nobody is going to vote for Bush* again but they will still vote for their Republican Agenda and that is what is destroying America not Bush*. It is the Republican LIES not bush*'s LIES that need to be addressed.

[Flubadubya]

Toot, toot, Toots!

I'm tooting your horn for you. You are right on about the Republicans and the Republican agenda.

I still will celebrate even one of them who may be beginning to peer beyond the blinders of that nasty idealism. Let's hope this becomes a groundswell and a real sea change amongst reasonable American human beings. Peace.

[magnetism]

90. I agree with you

anyone who blindly follows anyone else without using their heads scares the hell out of me!

[3days]

5. Thanks for passing that on

I hope it continues and people aren't able to be snowed over by all the lies being spewed.

[Talismom]

6. This east coast "extreme left-wing" dem. couldn't stop reading

your post. It was and is facinating. I just wish I could believe that it will make a difference given the neocon's hold on the whole govt. and voting process. Even with those doubts it's nice to see that some are waking up.

[Straight Shooter]

7. "bush is only one man. He's not the entire Republican party."

You deserve a medal for tact and diplomacy. That is a priceless summation. Very well done!

:thumbsup:

[goclark]

34. I think our statement should be

to Republicans...

"Bush and the NEOCONS do not represent the Republican party that we can respect, they are evil doers. I'm sure you don't want to be associated with that kind of group, YOU are a good person."

[RevCheesehead]

64. That's excellent.

That's also what we call "building bridges," proving once again that we are the party of "uniters, not dividers."

[glitch]

84. Much better. Bush is not just one man - he represents something pervasive

and cancerous, and it has spread far beyond him and his administration.

Good advice on taking his party back though, but he needs to be informed otherwise he'll just end up with another bush clone.

[tsuki]

123. "Bush and the CONSERVATIVES do not represent the

Republican Party..." The word is Conservative. Once the Republican Party was tempered by the number of moderates, and moderate-to-progressive elements in its rank. Now the party is a Flag-Draped, Corporate Whoring cult of Conservative only values. It happens when the standing of a country falls.

[LostinVA]

36. A VERY smart response

A slamming of his entire belief system would have made him defensive! When I talk to Repubs that express some hate about *, I also mention people like Snowe and Chaffee: "I may not agree with everything they say and do, but..." Good work!

[SnowGoose]

39. He's not even a real conservative!

Out of control spending
Huge deficits
foreign "adventures"
butting into peoples private lives
spying on the US citizens
compromising legal due process

The only standard conservative characteristics I see in him are: hating gays and trying to shove his religion down everyone's throat.

Oh that and mindless jingoism. Yea, God is an American, didn't you know?

[jjanpundt]

86. Yesterday in the parking lot of the Jewel grocery store

I watched as a man scraped off his Bush/Cheney bumper sticker. His wife was just standing there watching him looking bereaved. She noticed me watching and just sort of shrugged.

[lildreamer316]

99. And another one.

one by one.....they keep coming.

[Beam Me Up]

8. Nominating. GOOD NEWS is so needed right now!

Don't know how much more bad news I can take. And I know there will be much more bad news coming with this ASS #$%^ in the white house.

[derby378]

9. Yesterday at the hopsital, two docs had a fairly big row...

...over whether state officials or the Federal government bore most of the blame for the fiasco in New Orleans.

It's spilling into just about every facet of society.

[ToolTex]

61. But they already gave them the keys to the cookie jar.

It just simply doesn't matter now what anyone thinks. It is too late. The people floating are dead, and the American election system is dead. It is too late!

A very dark age is coming and I predict it will last until there is no breathable air left for humankind. How stupid and self-absorbed were the Americans who sold out for a their tax cut and their cowardice!

Hunker down and be very quiet!

[derby378]

89. Now why on earth would I keep my mouth shut?

The more we speak up, the more afraid Nero gets...

[cssmall]

10. But, that's exactly the point.

We get so angry when we know that someone supports Bush or Republicans in general. But, the truth is, only 20% of the party really buys into that hardline PNAC bullshit. The rest are honest, hard working people, just like the base of our party.

And, yes, honestly, we have not done the best job appealing to people and the majority of the blame falls on the media and Limbaugh, Hannity and the rest of the hate spewing "entertainers." But, just remind everyone of Bush's campaign promise to be a uniter and not a divider, something that he's failed miserably in.

I, personally, know a lot of republicans and have a large amount of respect and affection for the majority that I know, even though I personally feel that they are wrong in their political views. But, the difference of opinion is exactly what makes America great and the fact that people have tried to take that away is what pisses me off the most.

[gratuitous]

11. You showed a great deal of tact, compassion and restraint

I'd like to think that I would do the same. I really hope that I would. But the probability that he'd go home wearing rake marks still hovers in the mid to high 40s.

[Beelzebud]

12. We have to remember these people are Americans. The only

way we can get our country back, is to get *them* back!

I hope there is an awakening in this country. We have been sleeping for far too long. Such a shame it took the destruction of one of our landmark cities to drive that point home for some....

[CottonBear]

13. I spoke w/ a conservative friend who blamed everything on the poor

people on welfare who had already spent their welfare check by the end of the month so they didn't have any money to leave.
:wtf:
I was almost speechless. I tried to rebut the assertion but she didn't really want to listen.
:cry:

[faithfulcitizen]

27. reminds me of my sister's idiot in-laws...

a seventy-something year old woman, that resembles babs, exclaims in a huff, "well, i am going to send a case of diapers and that's it! cause the babies are the only innocents there."

just ignorant and hateful people, truly.

[Karmageddon]

96. that'll teach 'em to blow the whole check on luxuries like food and rent.

[NVMojo]

102. Pleebs just wanna be superior ...that's why this shit spews out ...

[Arugula Latte]

14. Good job! However, if I may

suggest something ... next time you talk to him about politics, if ever, try to work in stuff about the rampant corruption of Cheney, Delay, Frist, Rove et al and the neocon agenda. Because, it's NOT just Bush. It's a whole slew of criminals running that operation.

[garybeck]

15. I pray there are millions more like your neighbor, but we still

need to get rid of Diebold if we want any changes.

-gb

Election Justice Center
http://election.solarbus.org

[johnnie]

16. Thanks for sharing that

I'm certain that some trolls and freeper lurkers will think that you are making this up, but I have heard similar things from people I know who voted for the idiot.

[Hubert Flottz]

17. You did great!

I'd have been going to buy a new rake! Because I'd have worn the old one out on his thick skull.

[Dem2theMax]

18. "Well, guess what," He said, "I scraped it off last night."

That got a 'touchdown' arms up from me!

Thank you for sharing. These are the stories I need to hear -- in between all the death and dying. At least we know some people are waking up.

[catmandu57]

19. My wife was talking with our republican neighbor

Tuesday night, these people are part of georgies* religious backers, anyway, the Marshmallow said she was giving george* hell, cussing, not holding anything back.
If she is feeling this way they're in trouble, big trouble, I live in a very red corner of missouri, people on our block no my politics I don't hide my feelings for this moran, so I guess were safe for people to vent to.

[rwork]

20. Great post

One of my sons has come around. His job required a lot of driving and you guessed it listening to Rush. But it had to do with gas prices. He said * has not even mentioned trying to something about high gas prices.I told him I know it, he will never do anything about gas prices because the oil companies are who put him in office.I also said there are a lot of people coming around.He said I know it.

[melissinha]

21. Nice

When my family gets upset over my rantings (they are democrats just not ranting democrats), I tell them that i don't hate all Republicans its the neo-cons who have destroyed a decent party.

Can't wait to talk to my missionary friends.. they couldn't argue over Bolton, I am intersted to hear their impressions of this catastrophe.

Nice touch!

[KharmaTrain]

22. The Images Were Too Damning...

The words of "Brownie" saying he knew nothing about the convention center while the dying are show on the split screen. The screamings of Anderson Cooper, Geraldo, Shep Smith, Brian Williams and many others put forth the question..."do you believe me or do you believe your lying eyes?"

People saw several very troubling things in their manchild in the past week. His taking his time to get back and then LYING (and this one he can't deny) about not knowing about the severity of the storm. His photo-op around the region on Friday was such a bust, they had to damage control that one all weekend and try it again on Monday.

At home, while the people and a city was dying right on their television screens, millions around the country were seeing their own city or town and wondering if this could happen to them. Gone in an instant was that security blanket that this regime will "keep you safe". If anything, they see how the politics trumps the human. It's what they hated about Clinton and they're seeing it all over again.

I don't think we really know the fall-out of this. And it'll depend on how Democrats play the many questions raised in this disaster. This regime and the Repugnican party have opened up a big wound, one I don't think they can bandage up with talking points and photo ops anymore. It's now ingrained in too many memories.

[Bozita]

23. Your post made the GREATEST list in about 15 minutes

good stuff!

[Lochloosa]

24. You what is more telling to me...

I live in Jacksonville, FL. Just about as red city as you can find in Florida. It's the deafing silence coming from all my freep neighbors and friends. Every repub that I know is not talking about it with me. It's like it never happened. I think they are to embarassed to talk about it. I will not start the conversation with them either, let them stew in the fact that they have been lied to. Let them remember all the conversations, the battles we had before '04. I relish the fact that they now know I was right.

[txindy]

62. Wow. Being in Jacksonville, there may be another idea at play

Your freeper neighbors and friends may well understand that it could literally be them in dire straits on the news when the next big hurricane hits Florida. Junior, their hero, would ditch them. Maybe they've twigged to that idea. Maybe.

And, no, I wish no harm to come to Jacksonville, at all. :hug: :hi: I just want those freepers to think, for once. I'm a dreamer, aren't I? ;)

[peekaloo]

25. Bu$h supporters drowning in their own guilt/ remorse.

sad that it took thousands of lost lives to finally wake them up.

[redqueen]

29. Thousands of AMERICAN lives.

*sigh*

[lateo]

26. A republican with a brain.

That is a rare gift.

[bushisanidiot]

28. Those "W" bumper stickers are now an embarrassment to

those who voted for that idiot. I expect to see many more scraped off in the next few days, weeks, and months..

people don't want to align themselves with that idiot anymore.

he's as toxic as downtown new orleans

[Cobalt Violet]

30. It amazes me that these people need thousands of deaths...

to open their eyes.

[nookiemonster]

31. The hardcore Bush worshippers are repeating talking points in unison.

Good Republicans, and there are more than most realize, aren't buying the crap anymore.

I think they're seeing the pattern. They have to.

[MADem]

40. Blame game, blame game, blame game

Bad mayor, bad mayor, bad mayor.

Whiney governor, whiney governor, whiney governor.

It AIN'T WORKING...WHY????

Because those folks had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PRICE OF GAS AND HOME HEATING OIL!!!!!!! And even the diehards KNOW IT.

All politics is local, and the GOP are a bunch of selfish pricks. While some of them can deal with the death by the thousands of strangers, they take issue when they have to pay seventy bucks to gas up the car....

The ones who are troubled by the death and misery of this storm are the ones who were raised right, or who are thinking, hey, those uncaring bastards could very well kill ME and MY loved ones with the same sort of neglect and lack of care.

We're all just a storm or terror attack away from our own private Katrinas...and clearly, we cannot depend on them to help us.

It ain't a good feeling...

[bushisanidiot]

32. Those "W" bumper stickers are now an embarrassment to

those who voted for that idiot. I expect to see many more scraped off in the next few days, weeks, and months..

people don't want to align themselves with that idiot anymore.

he's as toxic as downtown new orleans

[MADem]

33. The perspective of an OLDER FART

Some of you were just a twinkle in your daddy's eye when Nixon fell, but let me tell you, the mood FEELS VERY MUCH THE SAME.

For the longest time, with all the stonewalling, prevaricating, fortress mentality, lockstep discipline, repeated talking points, and refusal to address the issues even when pressed, the Nixon White House hung on. Some folks thought he would get away with it. But history tells us that when he fell, he fell HARD.

Now is not the time to be disheartened, now is the time to continue to PRESS, PUSH, SHOVE and DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. No more tricks, no more distractions--when they try to change the subject, we need to kindly and gently stick a hot poker up their asses and force them to address THEIR failings, and not permit them to cast blame to local governments, or pull out a woman in a vegetative state, or manufacture a fake news story over the status of some woman's womb. We need to stay on point, on message, like David Gregory beating the ever-lovin' shit out of Scotty McClellan.

The other thing is, and this is harder to do, we MUST NOT GLOAT. We are the "civil" party, we listen to the ideas of others, even when they have their heads up their asses. We must take the approach that reasonable people can disagree, reasonably, and bring them along to our side with real compassion, not the bullshit compassion of a party that wants to concentrate wealth amongst their own fatcat members.

TwoSparkles, you handled that exchange EXACTLY RIGHT. I congratulate you.

[brook]

65. Excellent post.

As was TwoSparkles'.

I returned from a trip last night that took me through Utah, Idaho and Wyoming. I was with family who I love dearly. They're Republicans. "We must not gloat" is, imho, crucial in helping those who supported Bush come to terms with their own sense of betrayal. I did not 'convert' my family, but I gave them a few things to consider and I will 'gently' continue to give them the factual materials that will help them to make better informed decisions in the future.

I also met a couple of people(a store owner, a lawyer & a fireman who was on his way to NOLA) all in 'transition'. People are waking up - and that's what matters. We have a chance to have a civilized dialogue with many and we need to welcome them, not chastise them.

[Polemicist]

118. We don't have to convert Republicans...

we just need them to be willing to consider the alternative and really listen to the message that the Democratic Party is bringing to the table.

It's your government. It exists to help Americans. Competent independent people should be chosen as our Representatives. Professionals, not in the pockets of the big money special interests, should head government agencies. The current GOP political appointees are not competent and serve primarily the interests of their big money supporters.

When a disaster occurs, I want a disaster management professional in charge, not the former head of Bush/Cheney public relations in the last campaign.

Democrats will restore integrity and responsiveness to our government, take it away from the special interests and return it to the people.

This is something most Republicans can support.

[nookiemonster]

66. MADem, it was great seeing Simple Scotty getting blasted.

Even to the point of "poetic".

:)

[MADem]

72. Reminded me of RON ZEIGLER, frankly!!

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Zeigler.wmv

Check out THIS blast from the past, and tell me how similar it is!

Lies, obfuscations, and damn lies!!

[Nikki Stone 1]

81. MADdem: I hope you are right!

I worry because their spin machine is just too good.

[faithnotgreed]

87. great post MADem - thank you

[lildreamer316]

101. ROTFLMAO

" kindly and gently stick a hot poker up their asses "

I'm DYING here . Oh my lord what an image.
I bow to your experience! Great post-thanks.

[pberq]

35. Kick!!!

[babylonsister]

37. Thank you for sharing. The herds are awakening!

Your account did my heart good. :hi:

[Katidid]

41. Thanks for your personal story

Your were so gracious in your response - I am sure the ripple effect of this country's shock over Katrina does include masses of people waking up and seeing what kind of a person our President is... (his mother's statement at the Astrodome, didn't help either. I would imagine it's a genetic thing.)

I think the anger is just setting in, and I hope it continues until the entire White House administration is impeached, tried and convicted.

Thanks again

[FredStembottom]

42. I hope to have such an experience soon.....

...but the bull-headed "W' men in my blue-collar world will have to go through a much more agonizing personal process first. About on a level with kicking heroin.

Hating Liberals is ingrained on their very souls. They are in the grip of a cult. Nothing less. It's how they define themselves.

And yet... they are losing their jobs or sliding backward on the pay-scale right along with me and you. And Rush and Hannity preached for years that full Republican control would bring them endless supplies of gasoline at prices cheaper than water. THAT betrayal, the one that slaps 'em right in the face at the gas pump, really has them stinging with a combination of rage and shame.

Stay tuned.

[nookiemonster]

69. That's very encouraging!

Maybe instead of "left" and "right",

they're understanding "right" and "wrong"

Staying tuned indeed. I'm in this for the long haul.

:)

[durablend]

103. I prefer to think of it as GOOD vs EVIL :)

[yurbud]

43. excellent response to a crucial moment

[Roland99]

44. I woke up from the fog about 2 years ago. Some are slower.

<--- former die-hard Republican.

[Coventina]

55. I understand. It's a de-tox process. I went through it myself.

Starting during Poppy's term.
I'm feeling much better now.
:-)

It's really hard for me to be patient sometimes, but then I remind myself of my own past. :scared:

If I can stop drinking the kool-aid, anybody can.

[Roland99]

115. Now, if we can just force PAPER BALLOTS everywhere....

[momisold]

45. But just because they may no longer

support Bush doesn't mean they will no longer be conservative. That's a philosophy that doesn't change overnight. If they are really pro-life, no-gay marriage people, not supporting Bush any longer doesn't mean they will vote Democratic next time.

There's a big difference in not being a Bush supporter and being a progressive. I don't want to do the happy dance too soon.

[The Witch]

47. Excellent answer

and you know something, he says "We voted for Bush because we agreed with him..." and Jerry Springer brought this up yesterday, we always talk about whether we agree with candidates, but we never think about whether they'll be competent to do their jobs when in office... Bush isn't able to get it done, whether it's what we agree with or not, he just can't get it done... and that's the end of the story.

[Catherine Vincent]

48. Thanks for sharing that good news, TwoSparkles!

I just hope the conservatives here in parts of Texas realize they've been had.

:hi:

[Kazak]

49. Well, okay, if "they know" now, then...

impeachment should be a no-brainer, right? :shrug:

[KansDem]

114. Right! Ask "when are you (GOP) going to impeach?"

If this GOP neighbor says that Bush lied, then it's time to impeach him, isn't it? After all, we know they can do it!

Impeach the President!
C'mon, Republicans! We know you can do it!

[quisp]

50. It's happening all over.

My local paper has a feature called the Last Word. It is an anonymous message board and you can phone comments in and it get printed. There are lots of political comments, but also lots of local issues get discussed.

I was bowled over by the comments along the lines of "Carter's response to the Iranian hostage crisis made me a Republican, Bush's response to Katrina has made me a Democrat."

[rumpel]

51. I hope for the sake of humanity, the miracles will spread. Thanks for

sharing.

[Chalco]

52. It's very sad. Underneath it all they must be in mourning. The

loss of a dream, a city, thousands of people.

[BrklynLiberal]

53. Suddenly everyone can see the Emperor is NEKKID!! I hope they

remember that until the next elections!!!!!

[Julius Civitatus]

54. Sweet

:yourock:

[txindy]

56. Even before I read your post, I had the same thought as you

"Oh no, I thought. Here we go..." And it never happened. Amazing. Your neighbor has a lot of courage to admit his mistakes and, then, to actually seek you out and tell you that. Quite frankly, I'm amazed. I think it's great.

[tx_dem41]

57. These "little miracles" only happen if people are willing to communicate..

too many times I see posts of people that want nothing to do with "freepers". Your's is a good counterpost to those.

Congrats, btw, for refraining from raking him to death at the beginning. :)

[OneGrassRoot]

58. made me tear up.....thank you for sharing that n/t

[StayOutTheBushes]

59. I'm sure he will now vote for democrats.

[RevCheesehead]

60. We need a new bumpersticker for them:

"I'm sorry, America" and underneath, "Former W supporter"

[bigbrother05]

63. Now is the time to engage them

Don't need to get them to change parties. They should look at not only Bush and his misAdministration, but your local reps and how they are handling this. If your local politicians are mouthing the party line, reinforce the point about the other lies. All of us should seriously reevaluate anyone that is lined up with them, regardless of their party. We won't always be able to find a better alternative to some of the incumbents, so be prepared to lean on them to move them away from the dark side. Most of them want to keep their jobs, so now may be the chance to convince them that serving the public good is in their own best interests and make sure to keep an eye on their every move.

[txaslftist]

67. Sigh... I should be so lucky.

I live in Lubbock, friggin' texas, and EVERYTHING here is a religion.

You speak against Texas Tech, you're a heretic.
You speak against Jesus, you're a heretic.
You speak against GWB, you're a heretic.
If the entire rest of the nation strung GWB up to a tree for shooting the baby Jesus, they'd say GWB got a raw deal from "them damn liberals" and wan't that baby gonna grow up and be a commie anyway?

These are neocon Republicans to the bone.

[AspenRose]

113. You forgot "high school football"

;-)

I went to A&M, so I understand that environment completely. Sounds like B/CS.

[Gregorian]

68. What an asshole. Oops. I shouldn't be so negative.

He still supports the war in Iraq. He can't have compassion for people outside the country. But New Orleans. Oh New Orleans. Fuck these kinds of people. For those of us who actually have compassion for someone outside our own borders, this guy is the essence of ignorance. I wish there were a way to hold these people accountable for the deaths they've allowed to happen (not that we were given much choice about the matter). He supports killing Iraqis. I want off this planet.

Edit- I should acknowledge that he is waking from his sickness. Yippee.

If you support the war in Iraq, you are no better than a murderer.

[nookiemonster]

70. Unfortunately, some still believe that by supporting the war,

they are supporting the troops.

Republicans and even Democrats alike that believe this bullshit are deluding themselves.

You're really not supporting them. You're really not. You put our forces in great danger by believing this.

[confludemocrat]

77. agree right down the line

Not much truly positive, if he can't see that killing defenseless people overseas for a lie is far worse.

[MetaTrope]

73. No exit polls for US next election!

:nopity:

[Mr_Spock]

74. NICE!!!!!!!!! You just made my day!!

I love hearing about people who have finally been able to objectively look at this mans rule - and not liek what they see. Excellent.

[Historic NY]

75. I've been getting deafening silence from my Repuke friends........

they were sending out all kinds of e-mails in the beginning until I let go with a double barreled blast. I do have one that still needs meds & de-tox.

[faithnotgreed]

88. good for you

i grew up in hudson valley so i know how it can be
wishi was still there actually no matter the politics

but im glad you arent hearing much these days - that is a good sign and yes we do need to fight back
common sense and common decency can go a long way though it still has a long way to go in this country

[Historic NY]

76. I've been getting deafening silence from my Repuke friends........

they were sending out all kinds of e-mails in the beginning until I let go with a double barreled blast. I do have one that still needs meds & de-tox.

[BikeWriter]

78. "That's all they're talking about. They know." YIPPEE!

[FreedomAngel82]

79. Wow

I wasn't expecting that type of story. Wow. I also know how it feels to find out your government has been lied to. In 2000 I wanted Al Gore to win since I adore him and think he's brilliant and could do so much for this country. This was before I was a democrat officially and my views on things have changed. Then in 2004 I saw F911 and other movies and just educated myself. I was so disgusted. *sigh* So I know how it feels and in 2000 I was starting to like Bush but then I found out the truth about him and his whole family and now I despise them. I remember reading when Lyndon Johnson signed the 1965 voting rights act he said the democrats will lose the south. So could Katrina make Bush lose track? We all know they won't do anything. *sigh*

[undergroundpanther]

83. All I can do is SMILE!

Thanks for the story!These people are waking up!

[Clark2008]

91. You did better than I would.

I would have snorted and said, "We tried to tell you so."

Seriously, don't you feel just a bit smug knowing you were correct about the Boy King all along?

[krkaufman]

92. If & when you can, take the opportunity to show him the parallels...

... between the Katrina-related issues, and everything else they've done.

Tax cuts for the rich, at the expense of domestic programs.

Draining military strength, without considering the consequences. (Given that nearly half of the Guard units are in Iraq, shouldn't there have been better support for the state NGs?)

Installing inexperienced, incompetent political cronies in critical positions. (Iraq admin, FEMA, ???)

etc.

[LiveWire]

93. Ive seen this in Orange County as well...

The heart of the republican party in CA, the OC has many MANY cars with W stickers. However, since the hurricane, I've seen no less than 5 cars with those stickers hastily removed (they leave a distinctive mark on a car). Perhaps this is a turning point.

[Chicago1]

94. Thank you for sharing that story

Much appreciated. It shows that the tides have turned and everyone is not fooled by this HORRIBLE HORRIBLE catastrophe.

[Stevepol]

95. Please, please, please don't forget the voting machines!!!

If there were an election at this moment, Bush would win, probably by more than the 2 1/2% he is alleged to have won by in 04.

It doesn't matter who votes; all that matters is who counts the votes!

The machines are obviously, transparently rigged. Kerry won by 3% overall, by 3 1/2% in OH and probably won by a squeaker in FL.

How do I know? The exit polls told me so.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

97. That' right righties, nothing's real.

Welcome to the nightmare.

[lildreamer316]

98. Good response.That was perfect.

You didn't attack him for being Republican; which I bet would have turned him right off. Very very well done; I bet you all become good friends of a sort!

[sakabatou]

100. Wow...

Wish the guy seen this sooner.

[stanwyck]

104. I disagree on one point

(and thank you for your post). The Republican Party will NOT be OK. They've allowed the fundamentalist element to dictate their agenda. Tom Delay, Rick Santorum, and born-again Bush have taken the Republican party so far to the right, and let evangelicals dictate so much of their legislation, that the party is split. The Pastor Project wants only evangelical Christians as Republican nominees. At a time when our country is facing so many significant challenges, our debates center on gay marriage, women's right to choose (which we thought we had settled years ago), and the separation of church and state -- which our founders thought they had settled years ago.
His party is NOT OK. It's a very dangerous party which seeks to govern through religion.

[Whoa_Nelly]

105. Maybe you could invite to get together with him sometime to ask

Why he did, at one time, believe the things Bush said...kind of a really-want-to-know witn no political from your side. I know I would be interested to hear what it was that made him have faith in George prior to this time.

[Blue_In_AK]

106. These good Republican people

who now feel betrayed are going to be **'s biggest nightmare.

[cyberpj]

107. Damn! And I just put my new Bush bumper sticker ON!.......

[Javaman]

108. it's a bitch when they find out there is no santa claus...

They laud over asshole* like he's some sort of god, then when he shows his real colors to the repukes, it's like they lost their best friend. What the fuck????

Fuck damn shit, it takes the death of thousands for these assholes to finally wake up!!! Damn it! Because, you know, thousands of Iraqi civilians just aren't human to them or their death just doesn't have the same meaning as if it was an American after all...:sarcasm:

I sincerely hope to God that these rightwing puke in their eye assholes, are really getting and eye and ear full of their fucked up fearless leader* and not only take him* to task for his* heartless inability to help people but also take a hard look at the other repuke assholes out there as well.

You had shown remarkable restraint, I would have kicked him in the ass and told him, thank you for aiding and abetting this moron* in the white house.

colossal failure*.

[noahmijo]

109. You handled it well and your reaction is the same as mine

When you see a freeper becoming a human being it is quite a sight to behold....you can't help but look in awe and have an "I told you so!!" response pulled from the conversation.

I'm such a smart ass. I was trying to keep things light, and I said, "What...were you replacing your small W with a life-sized poster of the president?"

You're such a bastard. Sounds like something I would've said thanks for the laugh :)

[Ladyhawk]

110. WELCOME these people, I say. I didn't used to feel this way, but

we have to realize that it's a miracle that some people are able to wake up at all. In some cases, their entire world view is at stake and could come crashing down. I can attest to the fact that this HURTS. A lot. Of course, one should always seek the truth no matter what, but it isn't always easy.

I, for one, would welcome my family to reality with open arms.

[AspenRose]

111. My dream and prayer is for my husband (R) to say to me what your

neighbor said to you.

[GreenPartyVoter]

112. I sincerely hope they all know now

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Ditch Bu$h and save the Gulf: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=22507&mesg_id=22507

Then save the nation!
http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm

[ignatius 2]

116. Once credibility is lost, it is gone forever. Too bad people didn't

notice all the lies before the election.

[CrackpotAmerica]

117. Kicked, Nominated & Referred~ N\T

[donheld]

121. Praise jesus or whoever

Don't rub salt in his wounds, just lead him to the light.

[BamaBecky]

122. I loved reading this....Thank You so much!

It's wonderful to know that there are REAL people out there that vote Republican and can "reason with their head" also.
Bama