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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:46 AM
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What was Bush's real reason for deciding to wait to respond?
We all know the commander of the Iwo Jima was only 7 miles off shore, to which he he has stated that he; "could have been plucking people out of there" but the order had to come from the president.

The hospital ship arrives after all were removed from the Dome.

We know about Fema turning the three Wal-Mart water trucks away etc.

Of course we know once Fema got those people to the Super-Dome they received no water or food for almost 5 days.

Finally on Friday when Bush does show up, so do the troops, food water money the helicopters and Chertoff.

Please bear with me, what was the reason-motive-(idea?) for waiting, for making the people wait until Friday.

Could it have been to put in motion the gas shortage-price hike plan?

Did Bush think he would be viewed as Capt, Courageous thus helping his already sagging approval ratings? (what then?)

Because of the so many witnessed failures from Brown and Chertoff I can't help but to believe the whole reponse was in deed calculated, just not for the people of New Orleans - to somehow take advantage of this "blessing from GOD" that Bush would use and manipulate for his own advantage.

Because of his actions before and after Katrina, I cannot believe there wasn't a calculated reason for this President to act in the manner in which he chose?!!

So I ask what could have been the REAL reason for Bush to intentionally drag his feet responding to this major disaster?
How could he and his "have-mores" have benefited?







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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:49 AM
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1. Agree
Thats actually something that came into my mind, i didn't want it to be true. Its really sick if it is true.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:50 AM
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2. IMO: bu$h saw this as an opportunity
He thought as with Iraq, they would welcome him with open arms and rejoice that he brought the relief.
In withholding the relief, he would make the Mayor and Governor both Democrats look bad and he would be their Night in Shining White Armor.

The people who would die in that span didn't matter to him, this was all about what he and KKKalr perceived as looking good.
The still don't see the failure they are.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:51 AM
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3. They wanted the city cleaned out of poor folks for the rebuildin' process
for which he and his cronies will reap billions in government funds
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:57 AM
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4. I'm sorry. Incompetence just doesn't cut it any more. This wasn't just
incompetence; gross, negligent or otherwise. The Katrina debacle smacks of murderous intentions and down-right racist bigotry at its worst. I am sick and tired of bushco* getting a free pass because of incompetence. That's their stock excuse anytime their heinous intentions come into question. No doubt incompetence plays a part, however, there are actions and intentions far more nefarious at play.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:10 AM
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5. He and his cronies aren't all that interested--until they're hurt
They ignored the situation even though the Director of the National Hurricane Center personally informed them of the seriousness of Katrina as it approached the Gulf Coast and New Orleans. THey didn't want to disturb Bush since he was frolicking in Arizona and eating cake with John McCain. All that happened in response to the Governor's declaration of a state of emergency was a White House press office release echoing the declaration. Plans--which didn't even exist yet--weren't put in motion.

Only when the hurricane was followed by a tsunami of criticism over the total absence of a Federal response did they finally pull the stick out of their ass and start rolling trucks towards the Gulf. For every example of the military's bravery and ability there are at least an equal number of instances of FEMA bungling and withholding of aid that verge on mass homicide

If the Bush gang had anticipated that the criticism would have been like it has been, they surely would have prepared better for disaster management. But they didn't even guess how exposed they were to charges of neglect because their neglect of the whole matter of public safety and emergency management was so all-enveloping and total. They didn't prepare because this is not the sort of thing they thought was "cool" about holding office. Starting wars is cool. And they didn't think it was cool to save people in emergencies, because caring about people is not something that comes naturally to them. Nor to psychopaths outside of government.
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praisethelowered Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:18 AM
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6. They wanted riots, looting, unrest. . .
The press even over-reported it when it was used as FEMA's excuse for not going in. Martial Law was the goal. It was the same with iraq- create conditions for chaos then stand back and blame it all on "those bad looters"

Now when there is a dirty bomb in another city they will go in with martial law immediately.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:44 AM
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10. You got it, Bush wanted to turn New Orleans into Fallujah
and then the new enemy, maruading bands of drugged out, crazy, dangerous looters would be threatening the rest of the country. Of course, in the name of safety and security, the US would have become an armed camp.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:56 PM
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26. Negroes runnin' WILD AND LOOSE in the streets
It's a VERY OLD meme and ALWAYS works...
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:22 AM
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7. The reason is here
how can someone, who has a hard time putting on a pair of pants in the morning, run a nation?

His overseers obviously were not available to give him directions as to what to do. Once they became available he did their bidding. Simple as that.

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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:08 PM
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17. I think you might be right!
It makes me wonder what the overseers were doing--what marvelous "new product" were they preparing to roll out in September?

BTW, Welcome to DU! :hi:
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:56 PM
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25. thanks
:toast:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:38 AM
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8. Just learned the Head of Fema stated that supplies, the NG. water-food
were just outside NO. but that because Lousanna has it's own Homeland Security Dept. seperate from the governments Homeland Security major office, it was up to the State to respond to Katrina relief and rescue operations therefore the government is taking the position that the Senator of Louisanna failed to act in a timely manner.

Just yesterday Bush said he wasn't going to play the blame-blame game.
Are we to believe that if NO. till this day was not receiving food and water assistance, the President would still not have intervened?

http://downingstreetmemo.com/
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:42 AM
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9. Profiteering & Politics.
Period.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:46 AM
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11. America waits for him.
He didn't wait to respond. He went about his business as usual and responded in his own good time when he was ready.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:53 AM
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12. Emperor Bush wanted the Gov to kiss his ring.
Big, strong, cowboy, Republican man wants weak, worthless, female Democrat to bow down.

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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:59 AM
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13. Partisanship
Before you think I am whacko, bear with me for a moment.....

At what time have Bush or his cohorts actually listened to democrats?
When have they paid attention?

I have a theory.....Bush languished to send a message about democratic leadership.....that the governer and the mayor were incompetant because they are lowly democrats....and he had to ride in on his white horse to save the day.

I think it was simply pathetic, criminal, negligent partisanship that stuffed Bush's ears with cotton, slowed his steps and allowed this to occur.

Sorry, but if it were a republican governer - he would of moved much faster and more efficiently to get the job done in a timely manner.

And we see this message played out with GOP talking heads now. It is all deliberate. And this is what makes him so utterly incompetant and dangerous.

Agree, disagree....comments?
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:00 PM
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14. wanted people to know "gov can't do everything", mixed w/incompetence
Or some similar sick reasoning. Really.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:01 PM
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15. Really want the truth? It's ugly. Ok, here goes.The political advantage...
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 12:03 PM by McCamy Taylor
...that Karl Rove would have perceieved for the GOP for next fall's election from chaos in NOLA is an increase in fear of black people by white people in America.

I have been predicting for some time that Rove would try this. Papa Bush used this effectively with crack cocaine in the 80's. He protrayed all black people as drug addicted gangsters and got people to vote Republican out of fear.

FEMA had predicted that even in a best case 40% of people in NOLA wouldnt evacuate. Most would be poor and black. If you trap enough starving people in a flooded city there will be some violence and chaos. Since this is the USA, there were bound to be plenty of firearms in the city. The NRA would have seen to that.

So, neglect to send in aid for a couple of days, hinder other people's efforts to send in aid, but make sure that the press is there. Circulate rumors of shots being fired at rescue planes. Circulate rumpos of widespread looting--even if it's really just people scavaging needed food and water. Make sure that all the images are of black faces. Herd a bunch of poor, mostly black people into closed in spaces without food, water, police or hope.

Unfortunately for Karl Rove, the people of NOLA are some of the nicest, sweetest, most patient, and civilized people in the USA. The reporters on the ground loved them. There were hardly any scenes of true violence filmed. Rather, America saw the reporters become the champions of the citizens of NOLA, which made Americans become the champions of the citizens of NOLA.

Suddenly, the Bush administration had to change its tune, and fast.

Rove should have remembered that NOLA is the tourist destination of gazillions of people every year for a reason. It is a great city, because it is full of great people.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:03 PM
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16. The more damage, the more money for Halliburton.
Greed again folks, greed again.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:51 PM
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20. I'd like to see every contract awarded from 8/26 to 9/10.
I'll bet they would reveal this administration's priorities.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:49 PM
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24. It's got to be over 100 billion to Halliburton alone.
Probably way more.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:57 PM
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27. In addition to ensuring money gets into the "right" hands,...
,...if you know what I mean. :eyes:
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:12 PM
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18. Thought I read...
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 12:13 PM by Mr_Jefferson_24
...a story on DU yesterday saying Bushco pressured Governor Blanco very early on to cede all her powers to the Feds, and she balked. Bushco responded by not only withholding aid, but also preventing others from providing it, and preventing people who had means to leave the city from doing so. Not even allowed to save yourself. This seemed believable to me. Sounds exactly like Bushco. Blanco's the one who could tell us if this is truth or BS. I'd really like to know.

Maybe someone can provide a link to the thread I'm speaking of.
I'll try to find it also.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:43 PM
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19. I honestly think they were caught off guard.
I believe from watching these crooks for 5 years, some of them a lot longer than that, that they had just spent a month cooking up some kind of catastrophe for us. With the build up of operations along the Syrian border and the rattling of the sabers at Iran. With his poll numbers sinking like a rock and all. We were either going to have a "terroist" attack here or more likely a war with Iran and/or Syria.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 01:01 PM
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22. Meaning that Bush & CO. didn't figure on possibly 10,000 dying?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:59 PM
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21. He was busy!
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 12:59 PM by Stephanie

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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:49 PM
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29. I made my "Bush Resign Now" graphic from the second photo
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 02:14 PM
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23. You don't think like them. There could be many, many "payoffs".
After all a crisis is an opportunity for big business and people with that mentality.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 03:32 PM
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28. Another Trifecta
Even know it is still a win-win. 10,000's of black people dead, lots of rebuilding work either way and gas over $3/gal.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 04:12 PM
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30. And now taxes on gas are being reduced. It pays & pays & pays & pays.
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 04:12 PM by applegrove
Them devastating crisis are good eats!:sarcasm:
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