fffffing Kerik coming up on Dobbs: why is this guy given a huge platform?

[Gabi Hayes]

I don't get it. He's been on several shows recently. See today's thread on Tweety's fellat-eo, for example.

Has anybody given him the slightest contretemps when he comes on?

do they bring up the fact that he's under criminal investigation, or mention that his nomination was quickly pulled because of what a sleazy creep he is?

why is this guy being given airtime, and being treated as if he's Rudy Giuliani, instead of his corrupt acolyte?

BTW, Dobbs teased the appearance by saying that Kerik will bring the goods on just how corrupt/inept/blameful the LOCAL/STATE governments are in the Katrina fiasco?

Any guess on whether Dobbs will treat him with the skepticism he usually reserves for those on the "far" left, like, oh, say Evan Bayh, for example....not to say he tweeked Bayh, but what dems ever get on his show that are any farther to the "left" than he is?

[ewagner]

1. It's amazing

Kerik should be an object of SCORN . He should be a pariah!

What the hell is he doing on National TV?

[SlavesandBulldozers]

14. so what you're saying then is

that he deserves the Medal of Freedom?

[Melodybe]

2. Dobbs is a big fat racist, it fits that he would be happy to have a GOP

whore on his show.

[BeyondGeography]

3. No more standards or accountability

The hallmark of a corrupt, decadent society.

Grab a cold one and watch the decline.

[Old and In the Way]

4. Dobbs is obviously pushing the local/state blame game.

He's not kidding me....he is no friends of Democrats. He's a synocophant of this administration, his "corporate outsourcing" reputation notwithstanding.

[Julius Civitatus]

19. Dobbs has been blaming local NOLA authorities ALL WEEK

Lou Dobbs, as expected, is sticking to his Republican friends.

HE won't incriminate Bush or FEMA, even though it was THEIR FREAKIN' RESPONSIBILITY to act in a national catastrophe.

Lou Dobbs is an asswipe.

[montanacowboy]

5. Maybe they are about to name him

The Hurricane Czar

[BlueJac]

6. Kerik is a jerk....

Fucking law breaker!!

[hedda_foil]

7. Watch for Kerrick to be appointed Hurricane Czar.

It's a no brainer.

[Gabi Hayes]

10. how ironic that would be....you realize what job he was nominated for....

originally, and stepped down after the good old (fabricated?) nanny story, which headed off serious investigation into just HOW crooked this guy is....as Hunter Thompson, I think, once described somebody:

he screws his pants on?

I NEED to have some media flack go AFTER this guy, and ask him to defend his serial corruption before he can lay claim to any sort of credibility on ANY subject

remember how one of the 911 commissioners (a repuke, btw?) described Keriks's performance in the immediate aftermath?

wonder if Dobbs will bring THAT up

Kerik is MORE despicable than Ollie North, if that's possible

[blm]

11. Lordy, hedda, it's Kerik. Kerrick is the good guy who ratted out BushInc

on 9-11 when he said the Clinton WH had an intense focus on terror while there was NO FOCUS on terror in Bush's WH.

We definitely don't want to mix those two up.

[Gabi Hayes]

13. Kerrick? you mean Clarke, as in Richard Clarke?

I've never heard of a Kerrick before

googling

thx, though, for headsup

[blm]

27. Gen. Kerrick...worked with Clarke and O'Neill on a terror task force

.

[Gabi Hayes]

30. that's right.....forgot......and forgot about google

thanks!

[blm]

33. He said, "Clarke wasn't out of the loop on terror - he WAS the loop."

Pretty sure that was Kerrick, anyway.

[Gabi Hayes]

35. you sure? I know that Michael Scheuer, the anonymous CIA guy,

who wrote the book, is really mad at Clarke, and really reamed him in the past

is Kerrick mad at everybody pre911, too?

[ellenfl]

21. yup. first time i saw him on the tube last week, i said to

myself, 'self, he's going to step into the shoes of michael 'we-didn't-know-there-were-people-in-the-convention-center-until-today' brown or be tapped to head up the no cleanup.' yup, that's what i said.

ellen fl

[Gabi Hayes]

8. found THIS on an excellent "more than you wanted to know about Kerik" page

http://www.flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/041220dahmain.html

I sure wish somebody would ask him about this amazing coincidence:

''Bernard Kerik who was handed Atta's passport by someone not named yet, of which Kerik stated "Apparently, it must have fallen into the air just as the crash occurred, surviving the almost 1000 degree heat of the fire, then came across a strong wind to blow it several blocks away." With loose papers between the pages of the passport even surviving the gusts. ''

!!!!!!!

anybody else know about that one?

links between Kerik and at least 911 MIHOP:

http://www.flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/keriktest.html


EDIT: on now.

he just called him a "GREAT hero of 911!!!!"

[realFedUp]

20. and from MediaMatters....this on Kerik

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412160008

Republicans like to recycle their miscreants,
rewrite their history and elevate them out of
the mud. Lou has a conservative and selective
memory...a common ailment among his ilk.

[SoCalDem]

9. He "served" his penance.. and is a "macho" guy..so they all dig him

Remember john Fund..he "went away' for a little bit and was welcomed back

remember Dick (the toe sucker) Morris...he went away for a while and came back

These cretins are like zombies/vampires/werewollves.. They just keep on coming back :puke:

[Gabi Hayes]

12. yes, I do, but Kerik went away under a most dusky cloud.

he should be made to answer for why he pulled his own nomination, rather than being subject to ANY questions about his very very shady past

I will NEVER listen to Dobbs again, if he treats Kerik the way he seems to promise: as HERO of 911!!!! those are the EXACT words of Dobbs' latest tease

matter of fact, I won't even watch....I'll get either a stroke or aneurism if I watch.

please keep me posted

[NNN0LHI]

34. Got to watch to keep the Dobbs groupies from taking over DU

They think this prick walks on water. I looked up one day and there was ten fucking threads about what a great guy he is. I about shit my pants.

Don

[Gabi Hayes]

37. I know, but you realize how starved everyone here is for the occasional

act of journalism to be committed in the mainstream, and Dobbs has every so often lost his way, and gone against his masters' wills

[NNN0LHI]

40. When we begin using Lou Dobbs as a benchmark of real journalism...

...we are...well, we are just fucked.

Don

[Gabi Hayes]

44. couldn't agree more, and I hope you don't think that's what I meant

the state of journalism is just so pisspoor that, any port in a storm, yknow?

people here are getting all wet over Brian Williams now, for lord's sake!

[wiley]

15. I would burn my shoe.....

Rather than scrape that ** off it.

[Gabi Hayes]

17. he's already gone, meaning there was no time for anything but

major anal lavage+putting out the Roveline

anybody see it? no way for me

time for some nitro

[bpilgrim]

16. our M$MWs our all in on it together

peace

[Gabi Hayes]

18. didn't take long for them to cower back into the fold, did it?

did you see the thread about the pathetic David Gregory?

why anybody ever talks about him as if he had the slightest streak of independence

his "brave" press gaggle performances NEVER see their way into mainstream stories, like the propaganda job he apparently turned in tonight

[H2O Man]

22. Exactly!

Wasn't this guy humiliated? Why not interview John Gotti Jr?

[Gabi Hayes]

23. heh.....good one about Gotti. Kerik reminds me of his bullet-headed

mouthpiece

[H2O Man]

25. What is it

with the media, using people who are so discredited? Maybe it is just me, but I'm thinking there are hundreds of intelligent, insightful men and women who we should be hearing from. Even if their opinions are very different than our own, there are honest and honorable voices of reason out there.

[Gabi Hayes]

28. one of the very few, and probably the ONLY one from AEI, is Norm

Ornstein, and he's only on very infrequently, mostly on AEI sponsored bits that CSPAN shows

it's very difficult to come up with many names of those on the right {usually far right, as the dialogue shifts farther and farther fascistwise} that don't end up spouting the pugline at some point, sacrificing whatever credibility they may have had in service to the
"greater goal" of party purity

who's out there?

Ron Paul

Richard Brookhiser

David Brooks===I KNOW that's only temporary, but he was pretty POd last week, for the most part

who else?

Buchanan....but he ALWAYS reverts back

Andrew Sullivan----same as Brooks, only not quite as smarmy

[H2O Man]

38. I agree that

most of them revert to parroting the party line. I'd far rather hear from lesser known, or "unknown" people, who are involved in the day to day operations. I've seen people who I'm not familiar with being interviewed, who are honest.

[sandnsea]

24. Giuliani wants to run for President

So he's distancing himself from this fiasco, but Kerik will do anything to suck up to the Bushies and hail Giuliani and get back in the pub's good graces.

That was the most sickening display I have seen, well since Tom Delay's display yesterday I guess.

[Gabi Hayes]

26. did you watch it? I couldn't bring myself to...pls let me know what

happened

and you're totally correct on Ghouliani. he must be sh********** bricks every time he sees Kerik, cause SOME day, SOMEbody's going to connect the dots, and start axing about their mating habits (with each other; not the extracurricular salami-hide)

to call him a hero of 911 goes WAY WAY WAY beyond the pale. Dobbs usually has a few facts at his command, and for him to completely ignore the humiliating scene devolving around BK's nomination getting pulled just made me resolve to never, ever watch Dobbs again.

he was beginning to act, on occasion, like a real journalist, but something happened, especially lately

somebody got to him, one way or the other

[sandnsea]

42. On Dobbs

What happened is people started confronting the racism and Lou Dobbs could not accept it. I don't remember exactly when the turning point was, a few days ago, but it was abrupt and came about when racism was mentioned. He brought it up to Jesse Jackson and then I think to John Lewis the next day. It was sort of obsessive with him. So now he's back into defend conservatism mode. Kerik, he was just a shit talking about New York's response and the local mayor being in charge. What he ignores is that the entire city of New York wasn't under water with NO other cities close by. I was surprised he had Kerik on too, but I guess Dobbs will go to any length to avoid talking about race.

Did you see John Edwards on Aaron Brown? He was superb, and they did talk about race and the fact that the infant mortality rate in DC is worse than Beijing.

[NNN0LHI]

29. You are looking at the future hurricane reconstruction czar. Just watch n/t

[Gabi Hayes]

31. I just don't see it, but I'd LOVE to see them try to reappoint him

I'm seriously sorry they didn't make him head of Homeland Security, cause this would have blown up even BIGGER in their faces had he been at the controls, cause he's WAY more confrontational with the media than that worm Chertoff has proven to be

bad as it would have been for the country, it would have at least been entertaining to see him lose it, and he'd have blown BIG when he went, especially had he made it this far

[Halliburton]

32. shouldn't he be doing that nanny right about now?

[Gabi Hayes]

36. what nanny? far as I knpw, they never heard from her.

that was the easyout, so he wouldn't have to own up to the real, actual corruption into which they were about to delve.

that's why he'll never pass muster for any Senate-approved appointment, and why Ghouliman must be cringing when he sees him out there, unless, of course, he keeps getting the kid glove treatment

it'll be interesting to see how far Kerik tries to push it, though

please please take it all the way, Bernie

I'm your biggest fan

[librechik]

39. Must have a job with CNN as a "commentator"

on security issues. My guess: the contract kicked in on Sep 1. Isn't it about a year since his disgrace? (Nine months actually. Rushin it.)

I guess since he escaped having to own up to any hankypanky (since he declined the nomination for DHS,) the rehabilitation period was shortened.

They only like to hire their cronies, so they would MUCH rather have a disgraced "expert" with name recognition than a new face who could screw up and make them look bad. One more reason the mainstream media sux so bad right now. They are WAAAAAAAAYYY conservative, both politically and philosophically. Not good for the country. We need more risk takers and true populists in the media, we're dyin out here. The media's populism consists of talking down to us and drenching us in sex at the same time.
:puke:

[Be Brave]

41. Mr. Kerick, if you had been head of homeland security, if you had not

withdrawn your nomination at the last minute because of the skeletons in your closet, what would you have done to prevent this catastrophe?

[tyedyeto]

43. I don't get it either

He had to step down when he nominated for Secratary of Homeland Defense for several reasons. But ow he's an expert the news shows are courting? Who can believe anything that this guy says? WTF!!!

[barbaraann]

45. I watched Kerik and I thought he was not a Bushbot.

Sorry, I can't remember anything specific but he didn't seem to be saying what Lou Dobbs expected him to say and wasn't blaming the local and state officials. He also seemed subdued and somewhat saddened.