Bless his heart!!! Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) is taking a stand against,...

[Just Me]

,...the BushCO/neoCONsters on CSPAN!!! We MUST LEND OUR SUPPORT because we all know there will be a coordinated effort to destroy this man by the radical corporateers and right-wing cult!!!

[shraby]

1. They are beginning to eat their own!!!!

HOOO HAAA

[charlie]

3. No, Paul's always been a hard critic

of Bushco's militarism, appetite for secrecy, and abridgement of civil liberties.

[Witchy_Dem]

4. ALL RATS JUMP SHIP. Those votes will matter if you don't do it now.

I keep checking the (R) next to his name to make sure I'm really hearing a republican speaking.

[charlie]

6. He's actually a Libertarian

Was once the party's candidate for President.

[Witchy_Dem]

9. So noted. Not familiar with him. Saw the (R) and figured Republican.

Thanks for setting me straight.

[charlie]

11. Yeah, it's discombobulating to see one

that's not a bot. He's the rare exception.

[Witchy_Dem]

14. and from TX no less. Does he chap bush's ass much?

[charlie]

16. To the extent that the Chimp notices him, I sure he does

Ron's an oddity, but Republicans (so far) can safely ignore him. He has no juice, he's not a player. Note how many around here haven't heard of the guy. That's no accident.

[Witchy_Dem]

17. good point. I am new to cspan but not to DU but still haven't heard him

sad, I know.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my posts.

[charlie]

26. Want to see something breathtaking?

His 35-question critique of the rush to war, made a month before the IWR vote:

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2002/cr091002.htm

He's also written a number of articles for magazines on Iraq and the appalling Patriot Act these past few years. Some are reprinted on the web.

[Witchy_Dem]

27. THANK YOU!! (I am yelling) I copied that to my dem lists.

I love learning new stuff everyday and this was a nice surprise, though unrelated to Katrina. I am marching in DC on Sept 24th. I'd like to be as informed as possible.

Thanks again Charlie!

[charlie]

33. You bet

It reads like boilerplate DU, doesn't it?

[Witchy_Dem]

34. Yes, daily.

[Just Me]

18. Actually, he believes in accountability of governance,...

,...not NO GOVERNMENT. He believes that, an accountable "representative" governance is the anchor to a democracy.

[Just Me]

20. IOW he believes in a RESPONSIBLE government.

He is reality-based.

[Witchy_Dem]

22. That makes sense though. How did he get elected?

and I do mean that earnestly.

[Just Me]

38. He is genuine about his concern for his people.

It's that simple.

[charlie]

30. So? That's a prime principle of Libertarianism

Doesn't make Paul a special breed of Libertarian.

[Just Me]

40. I believe all Libertarians want responsible governance.

I believe most want protection of individual choices with a JUST AND EQUAL STRUCTURE that will be prohibited from abuse.

I don't believe Libertarians seek anarchy. They want equity, social and economic.

[charlie]

41. ?

Okay. I never claimed otherwise.

[Witchy_Dem]

42. My dad is a Libertarian and his beef is he wants LESS gov't. Much less.

waaaaaaay less. But he's a bush supporter....so...we fight.

[charlie]

43. So does Paul

Paul's no friend of social services or proactive govt protections. His Libertarianism just happens to intersect with our agenda on matters of war and civil liberties.

[Witchy_Dem]

44. where does he stand on big oil? D'ya know?

[charlie]

46. So long as they keep away from the govt teat

He's unconcerned with them. But as you can see with his just-broadcasted speech, when oilmen drive US policy in backroom meetings with powerful politicos, he isn't afraid to blast them for being dangerous assholes.

[Witchy_Dem]

48. That line has been muddled to the point of non-existence, no?

[liveoaktx]

2. Recording and will turn it into a vid clip later on

after Countdown - look here

Wish he was my rep

[bear425]

19. Wow, I can't wait to see the transcript

and email the video to someone I had a conversation with the other day who believes in the war.
Thanks in advance for the video! You're awesome.

[bear425]

5. Now THIS is evidence that the tide has turned

I'm amazed watching this!

[Lin]

15. yessss-it takes ONE brave heart, he even mentioned COMPLICIT media! (eom)

[Lone_Star_Dem]

35. You may want to add this video from Rep Paul's website, also

http://www.house.gov/paul/

It's the video on the front page top right frame, you can't miss it. :hi:

[bear425]

49. Thanks very much for this link.

I never realized Rep Paul's position. I have some respect for him. Again, thanks. :hi:

[Fleshdancer]

7. Ron Paul has been disgusted with this admin for years

he's no neocon, that's for sure. Must be hell for him watching what his party has turned into in just 5 years.

[magellan]

8. He's been doing this for years

Ron Paul is a Libertarian who's been speaking out against the Neocons for some time. His 2003 floor speech "Neo-conned" is how I learned about these anti-American traitors. The Repukes have effectively marginalized him.

[mzmolly]

10. Oops I cross posted. Contact Ron Paul here:

http://www.house.gov/paul/contact.shtml

I believe he was the soul Republican to vote against the war:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul58.html

[Lin]

12. wonderful isn't it? & NOW ohhhhh D-O-M-I-N-O! PLEASE! (eom)

[BlueJac]

13. Good for Paul........

he better look over his shoulder!

[welshTerrier2]

21. maybe the best speech i've ever heard

this guy's great on this issue ... what the hell is he doing in the republican party ??

the only thing he hasn't said is that the policy is really NOT to obtain oil for Americans; it's to obtain bigger profits for BIG OIL ...

[shadowknows69]

24. I think he's said plenty

n/t

[Witchy_Dem]

25. I agree. I've never seen or heard of him and I love what he's saying

[Telly Savalas]

29. He's in the Republican Party because he shares Grover Norquist's vision

of shrinking government until it's small enough to drown in the bathtub. Just because he's correct on the issue of Iraq, doesn't mean he's not a dangerous rightwing ideologue. The guy was the presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party at one point. The social Darwinist vision of those crackpots is totally at odds with the ideals of the progressive movement. He's not to be trusted.

[Lin]

39. oh yes he did! just now & it is -amazin'- (eom)

[Lecky]

47. My explanation

Many politicians run whatever ticket they think will get them in office. For example, I know a very liberal woman who ran locally as a Republican so she could win office, I live in Charleston, SC (pretty conservative area). Maybe Ron Paul lives in a very Republican area...?

I don't particularly agree with this method since it's misleading and I can see it being used in a negative way. But if these people feel that they can represent their people and they have their constituents best interests in mind...I can see it being used in a positive way as well.

Most people will only vote their own party...they view politics as some big football game and are completely apathetic to what's really going on in this country as well as abroad. They only get involved with politics during election time...if at all.

[ThomWV]

23. It is Truly Astounding That A Republican Is Saying What He Is Saying

He's still on (7:32) and I am just amazed.

[Wind Dancer]

28. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich working together.

The Beginning of the End of the War in Iraq

Updated August 2, 2005

On June 16, two Democrat and two Republican Representatives introduced a bi-partisan Resolution to begin the process of withdrawing American troops from Iraq.

Members of Congress Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Neil Abercrombie (D-HI), Walter Jones (R-NC) and Ron Paul (R-TX) introduced the Bill along with additional cosponsors Martin Meehan (D-MA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Barbara Lee (D-CA). Now, as of July 29, the bill has 45 cosponsors from both sides of the aisle.

The Homeward Bound Act, H.J. Res. 55, is a binding Resolution calling for President Bush to announce by the end of 2005 a plan for withdrawal from Iraq that would begin by October 1, 2006.

The Bill is intentionally crafted to avoid partisan finger-pointing and recriminations. Referring to the bi-partisan sponsorship of the Bill, Dennis said it was possible "because four Members of Congress put aside any kind of differences that we may have had in the run-up to the war and the conduct of the war, and we're saying this is the way to bring our troops home."

http://www.kucinich.us/

[Witchy_Dem]

31. Thank you!

[Just Me]

32. GOOO, REP PAUL, GOOOO!!! Keep decisions about war in the hands,...

,...of the legislature!! NO MORE WAR THROUGH THE BACK DOOR!!!

NO MORE WAR THROUGH THE BACK DOOR!!!

NO MORE WAR THROUGH THE BACK DOOR!!!

OUR COUNTRY IS NOT SUPPOSE TO INTERVENE IN OTHER COUNTRY'S SELF-DETERMINATION!!!!

THIS WAR ISN'T ABOUT "DEMOCRACY" OR "FREEDOM" OR "SELF-DETERMINATION",...IT'S ABOUT OIL OIL OIL.

WE HAVE CREATED THE RECALCITRANCE AGAINST US!!!

WE HAVE CREATED THE RECALITRANCE AGAINST US!!!

BECAUSE WE HAVE ABUSED THE RESOURCES OF THOSE PEOPLE'S NATIONS!!!

[Just Me]

36. I do believe we have found our Butler!!!

He is laying it all out: WAR IS A RACKET!!!!!

I totally LOVE THIS MAN!!!! :hug: :hug: :hug:

[pippin]

37. Just Obliquely Zinged Bush!

Mentions that in the '60's those who advocate war avoided military service!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. He has been taking a stand against them now for years. He rocks! nt