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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:38 PM
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No liberal agenda
Dear Average Republican,

There is NO "liberal agenda" but the shared interest of liberals who want to see things get better for everyone. You, your parents, and the guy who bags groceries down at the Piggly-Wiggly. Liberals want to see you with enough money to buy groceries, pay off your house, and put at least one gas-efficient vehicle in your garage.

It's not an agenda. It's people hoping for the best for other people.

It's about hoping that your Uncle John, who's been farming the same plot of land for the last 40 years, doesn't lose his farm because he falls off his tractor and breaks his leg and can't pay his doctor bill.It's about hoping that you have some options when your town's biggest employer goes belly-up 'cuz it can't compete with the textile factory in China.

It's about making sure you get paid enough that you don't have to take two or three jobs just to make ends meet. So you can spend more time with your family...so you can play catch with your boys, or take them fishing on weekends, or take your little girl to the local swimming hole and teach her how to swim.

It's not an agenda to want the best for people. It's just humanity. It's about being a good neighbor, even if that neighbor lives half a country away.

Ask a liberal what empathy is...it's about understanding where someone else is coming from. And most of us try very hard, even if we don't agree.

Being a liberal isn't about making fun of God, or your beliefs about him. Most liberals take the Sermon on the Mount to heart. They try to live the teachings of Jesus, even if they aren't sure he's really the Son of God. Thomas Jefferson called him the World's Greatest Moral Philosopher. You'll find very few liberals who'd disagree with that.

It's because of liberals that your ten year olds get to go to school rather than being forced to work in factories for spare change. It's because of liberals that you can trust your workplace to be safe and free of unexpected dangers. It is because of liberals that, should you be injured at work, you can expect fair medical treatment and compensation for your lost work.

That's what we do. We try to look out for everybody. Even the people who hate us.We don't have an agenda. We don't take marching orders from anyone. We do what we do because we believe in people.We believe in you.

All we ask is that you begin to believe in us.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:40 PM
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1. very true. . . (nom)
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illflem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:42 PM
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2. Excellent!!!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:44 PM
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3. This is yours; right?
May I credit you and distribute to my mailing list?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:46 PM
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5. Oh, please do...
That's actually what I meant it for when I wrote it.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:58 PM
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11. I remember when you first posted. Thanks for the repost. n/t
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:03 PM
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12. I think this is a particularly good time
to get this out...support for the Prez weakening to unprecedented levels...

Attacking is well and good, in the right framework, but offering a hand to the shaken is a much better plan.

We ARE all in this together, after all.

I like to repost stuff that I think is particularly good from time to time, because I know people didn't get the chance to see it the first time around. It ended up with thirty-six nominations, which I thought was wonderful, but I'd really also like to see it passed around.

Oh...attribute it to Saje Williams. :)
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:30 PM
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24. Original date?
when did you orginate this?
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:31 PM
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25. August 5th, 2005...n/t
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PatrioticLeftie Donating Member (909 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:45 PM
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4. Awesome
No smearing or attacking. Just the plain and honest truth. It's refreshing.

Nominated
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:46 PM
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6. kick
:dem:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:46 PM
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7. The opposite side of this coin is if you believe that "America" is
a place where everyone has a chance to make it on their own. Except that you realize that there is only so much pie to go around, so you elbow everyone else out of the way so that you can grab the biggest slice and prove that you are a "winner", and the folks who aren't smart or cunning enough to sharpen their elbows are losers - because they had their shot at that same pie.

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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:35 AM
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35. Which is folly these days, because there IS enough to go around
and still enough after that to fight over, if you absolutely must.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:51 PM
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8. It's hard to be a Democrat, an article that inspired me to start to reply,
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bostonbabs Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:51 PM
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9. loved this
Yesterday I went to visit old friends who live in assisted living housing...posh digs.George and his wife C.J. ( 80's) were born and raised in the south. They are Democrats. Most of their neighbors are Republican. They are very distressed at Bush and the state of affairs. George said this to me....."you have to understand that these Republicans here are good people...they support Bush because they grew up in a world where Presidents didn't lie and they can't accept that Bush is not telling the truth....they are just poorly informed."......he has few "converts"......I guess it's hard to change your mind when your in your 80's......
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PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:53 PM
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10. I'm a liberal and I endorse this message! nt
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 PM
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13. That was amazing ...

Truly amazing. Well done.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:12 PM
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14. I love it...
The sad part is that I know quite a few people who would read this and call you a socialist. There are too many evil bastards in this country. I may need to go someplace where more people share this sentiment if things don't change here soon.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:19 PM
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15. The funny thing
is that I'm not a socialist... Not even close. I'm a POPULIST. Engage Humanity and let the governments and corporations take a back seat for a change.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:23 PM
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17. you don't need to convince me...
i'm not a socialist, but when i take exception to CEOs raising their salaries while laying off workers, cutting their health insurance and their pensions, these people call me one. :eyes: I appreciate capitalism. I like to do well. But I also understand that there are people who aren't as fortunate, but are willing to work hard and deserve to live a happy and healthy life.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:27 PM
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18. Exactly the way I feel...
I don't know what's so hard for some people to understand about that.

T
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:21 PM
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16. I should have read your post before I put this one up:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:29 PM
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20. That's funny...
To some extent that was what originally inspired my post. Someone put it up here a few months back and it percolated until mine popped out of my head.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:30 PM
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23. Well, you captured the spirit perfectly!
:D
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:27 PM
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19. Excellent! I would edit just one small part of it ...... just one word ...
You wrote:

"They try to live the teachings of Jesus, even if they aren't sure he's really the Son of God."

I would edit this just slightly to read:

"They try to live the teachings of Jesus, even if they some aren't sure he's really the Son of God."
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:29 PM
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21. I think "they" implies "those of which"...as in a generic "they"...
nitpicking your nitpicking...
:D
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:47 PM
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29. Nitpicking is okay
Nitpickers even have a guild! :)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:30 PM
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22. I can see that...
I thought it was implied, but it's a weak link.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:40 PM
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26. Great Post!
And then, AR, After we ask that you believe in us, we ask that you join us and stopping fighting against all our interests.
My after thoughts :)
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:43 PM
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27. "best for everyone" = end of white male preference
White males are the only demographic that consistently votes right wing. Liberals stand for equality. The liberal agenda must offer something to assuage the loss of the psychological benefits of racial, sexual, religious, etc., privilege for the biggest most powerful demographic in the electorate. See "The Problem With White Folk" by Tim Wise.

58% of white males supported bush* in '04. That majority has to be whittled down to less than 54 if Democrats are to win nationally (until 2025 when causcasians will only comprise 49% of the population). That won't happen until white males feel safe enough to cast off the emotional (and economic) anchors of racism.

Its too late to wait until 2025 when whites become the minority majority . Intractable challenges lie ahead for us and WE HAVE TO start preparing for them NOW. Making it best for people means making it the "best for everyone"



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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:45 PM
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28. I'd include sexism as well...
both are symptoms of their (our) assumed superiority.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:58 PM
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31. It takes a cataclysmic event...
...for a society to shake off something so deeply ingrained.

How much longer until white male Americans evolve to the present level of Europeans in their support for a social democracy? When it finally falls I believe gender privilege, religious privilege, and homophobia will quickly follow.

I'm all for making it "better for everyone."
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:02 PM
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32. Yep...
And, for me, it has nothing to do with "Liberal Guilt." My ancestors weren't exactly handed the keys to the city when they got here. I'm a blue-collar guy raised by a blue-collar dad. My family was Scot and Irish and came over in the late 1800s. And the other side was Native...

I LOOK white, but I come from a long line of people screwed by the Powers-That-Be.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:54 PM
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30. Bushevism is about making votes completely irrelevant by that time
and they have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

That is the whole point. They want to secure their One-Party Hegemony before they lose the ability to lock the rest of us out.

Mission Accomplished.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:03 PM
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33. Not if they're ripped bare
in the aftermath to this fiasco. I think it's just possible they went too far too fast.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:06 AM
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34. The liberal agenda is JUSTICE
as opposed to the conservative agenda of law and order.

Liberals are not for or against gay marriage. They are for the right of each person to be treated equally to every other person, therefore they support the rights of gays to marry (as an example)
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 11:15 AM
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36. Excellent!!
The last 2 paragraphs rock! Send it off to your local newspaper!!

I'm so sick of the fucking corprate repukes making liberals out like we're demons & the sheeple falling for it without even thinking of all the good things in their life that liberals have brought them -- like the weekend that we are enjoying right now!

It really is a "you're with us or against us" outlook vs "we're all in this together" world view.

I think you would like Thom Hartmann's book, "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight." He discusses cooperative (ancient) cultures vs competitive (younger) cultures. A very good read.
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