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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:43 AM
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Is the evacuation debacle going to make it harder
to get people to evacuate from future hurricanes?

The Hell that was created by an overcrowded Superdome for 5 days was seen by all Americans, and evidence shows that some of NO never flooded. Not to mention that Americans see that those people will NEVER return to their homes, having been "resettled" elsewhere.

Do you think that we are going to have a big problem with even MORE residents of hurricane zones refusing to evacuate?

More coattails of * murderous inaction, IMO.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:46 AM
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1. The evacuation plan needs to contain more than "Get in your car and
go".
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:54 AM
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2. Especially if like in New Orleans, 120,000 households don't have
vehicles.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:57 AM
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3. I think many people now realize they are on their own if it happened to
their area. This made me more aware NOT to try to ride out a hurricane. I'm on Long Island. I just watched a show on CBS this morning I believe (was just waking). They showed the most vulnerable areas to major hurricanes that could flood catastrophically. Manhattan and Long Island are on that list. Even though they think the track of this hurricane Ophelia will strike in the Carolina's, I have my eye on it here. If it unexpectedly turns east and heads north, it can grow in intensity to God knows what strength and hit directly here for all I know. I have found an even greater respect for nature. I can't imagine this tragedy encouraging people to ride out a storm.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:02 AM
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4. If you thought the Katrina evacuation was fun
Think of 5 million people on the LIE and Northern/Grand Central Parkway trying to leave within a 48-hour period. Not to mention Manhattan, Staten Island, and low lying areas of Northern NJ (I am 14' above sea level, and that's living on the 2nd floor).
Where will we be sheltered?
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:10 AM
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7. on the sunday before katrina hit land,
i saw a photo of people evacuating. it was standstill traffic on the interstate as far as you could see. people were out of their cars just hanging around, going nowhere, trying to get somewhere. it was scary.

i grew up around new york, so i know exactly what you're talking about. it's a frightening thought.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:20 AM
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8. First of all, I wouldn't be sheltered, not after what I saw from
LA. No way, no how. Secondly, I'd ferry out from the east of LI to Connecticut, once the hurricane passed Cape Hatteras. I wouldn't wait until they were sure it would hit here. I think thats the only way to get off Long Island, BEFORE they were sure it was going to hit here. Sadly, we'd never get through NYC in 48 hours, possibly not even 72 hours.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:24 AM
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9. And if you have a pet that you love, please take it with you.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 10:28 AM
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10. Even the goldfish.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:08 AM
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5. Depends On How It Goes
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 09:09 AM by KharmaTrain
As the waters receede we'll see how damaged certain areas are.

The issue here is there are several areas of the city that are in good shape. The French Quarter, Garden District and most of Jefferson Parish suffered a lot of wind damage, but not the flooding...thus power, water and sanitation can and is being returned.

The problem is the many neighborhoods that are adjacent to these areas that took the worst of the flooding. Besides the residue left behind when the waters receede (and the toxic nightmare that will be), then the entire infrastructure of the area will have to be redone...from the sewers on up. It's gonna be a massive job and take years. My bets are there will be areas of the city that will remain scared for decades (just as there are in cities that suffered the riots in the 60s and never rebuilt in those areas).

While I'm hopeful urban planners with some brains will be brought in to rectify the past problems and try to prevent a catastrophe of this from happening again, as long as this regime and the Repugnicans remain in control of the money, it's sure to be a Haliburton GOOP pork-fest.

This is a complex issue as there's been no guarantees as to resettlement or compensation for those who leave their homes. There's really no assurances of security, either. So, if you own a home that suffered little damage, would you leave without any assurances that your property rights will be protected and honored? There are no such assurances by FEMA, State or City on that issue.

There has to be some kind of system where property and home owners can get assurances that they'll have their rights protected amid a still chaotic situation. What will happen to those whose homes are total loses? What type of compensation will they get? What type of arrangements will be made for replacement housing or temporary housing? It's bad enough to have to flee and lose all you have...imagine having survived this disaster only to loose it all to beaucratic bullshit.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 09:10 AM
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6. self-delete
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 09:14 AM by highplainsdem
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