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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:40 PM
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CNN Shows Fires Daily... Are They Getting Rid Of Corpses In Plain Sight?
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 04:44 PM by cryingshame
this is my own personal tinfoil theory right now. The one that sounds plausible.

I haven't been watching CNN very much. But every day I go past and check it out... there's new footage of a helicopter putting out another fire.

Is it absurd to posit they are torching houses & buildings that have many dead to keep number down?

Or are fires a very common occurance in flooded and abandoned neighborhoods?

The fire footage also conveniently gives authorities a reason to repeat saying the remaining residents need to evacuate.

"There's no way to put out fires"... except CNN keep showing footage of helicopters putting out fires...

Someone please talk me down!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:42 PM
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1. Won't talk you down - with this crew of thugs you're probably right.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:43 PM
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2. I was wondering how these fires started also...
I mean, are they electrical fires? I thought the electricity was out. Do houses just spontaneously combust during floods?
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:44 PM
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3. I think what you're seeing is the result of the flood and high winds
which have caused gas leaks. It's very hot there and anything can set the gas on fire. Any kind of spark. Anyway, that's been my assumption. Maybe I'm wrong. Also remember lots of gas and oil escaping from cars, etc., underwater, rising to the surface, flowing into houses. Could catch fire easily.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:45 PM
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4. Probably better explained
That as power is restored (if it's being restored), short circuits occur. There are probably also many, many gas leaks. The gas leaks alone are probably enough to explain the fires.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:47 PM
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6. thanks, I'll step away from the cliff's edge now...
:)
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:59 PM
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12. Good
But don't go too far. I still agree that there isn't much that this Administration wouldn't stoop to.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:46 PM
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5. Fires do occur during floods
for several reasons.

1. Arson

2. Fires started by leaking gas lines

3. Debris set on fire, fire spreads out of control

And let's remember that the liquid in the NO streets isn't water as much as a toxic mix of gasoline, chemicals, human waste--wouldn't surprise me if it could catch on fire.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:48 PM
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8. Birthmark had another reason- when power might be going back on- shorting
out lines.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:47 PM
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7. The truth will come out
The living will tell the stories of their missing and known dead. This government may try to keep the people in camps or threaten them. But the information will be gathered and shared.

Remember this - we are half the nation and the numbers on our side are growing. I understand that the other side has the fire power in terms of mercenaries, NG and regular troops. But still, the truths of NOLA will come out regardless of any opposition. That can't be stopped. Think of the Soviet Union and how the truths became public around the world. It doesn't mean it will be easy.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:50 PM
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9. I just think that some people didn't have flood insurance
but do have fire insurance..
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:07 PM
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14. Ah.. good point. I hadn't thought of that.
I would think that even after a fire, the local authorities would find skeletal remains?

What a mess.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:55 PM
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10. Insurance.
Don't know, but it's possible many businesses and landlords have fire insurance but not flood insurance. If so, it becomes convenient to have a flooded apartment building or business burn down.

It is clear that one of the current spins is to play down the number of deaths. Don't doubt that they would like to 'disappear' some bodies, but openly burning them in buildings which might not burn completely sounds way too sloppy.

My feeling is nothing is happening or else something way more scary is happening.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:08 PM
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15. INSURANCE!
that's actually a very simple answer.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:41 AM
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30. You can't get a mortgage these days in a Flood Zone
without Flood Insurance, so a lot of people or property owner probably do carry this insurance. Plus it really isn't that expensive.

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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 04:56 PM
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11. There is NO electricity!
The natural gas should have been shut off by now, and if not there would not only be fires but BIG explosions. I doubt if people are lighting fires to keep warm since it's about 100 degrees down there.

This is suspicious and should be investigated. But since nobody is allowed in, it won't be.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:15 PM
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18. Let's just assume for a moment
That the toxic cocktail people are calling water, is full of gasoline, oil and anything else that may be flammable. So someone is going house to house searching for evacuees, let us then assume that person is smoking a cigarette (which I've seen lots of on the news) and flicks the smoke in the "water." Kapow, fire. That is one very plausible explanation. Plus, it wouldn't surprise me if some folks are torching houses on purpose.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:36 AM
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29. Let go of my tin foil hat!
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:32 PM
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21. there have certainly been explosions
rather well-publicized ones earlier in the disaster
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:04 PM
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13. Can't talk you down, but can send Reynolds wrap
my theory is that they will have a gas leak or some other explosion that will blow the whole thing up.

It's one reason they would have had to do the forced evacuations--and ban the reporters (course many of the "holdouts" were white and so were most of the reporters), so if they'd actually blown it up KNOWING that innocent white folk (not those heathen black welfaremongers, they'd have been charged with murdering civilians who actually MATTER.

I still think they're going to try some stunt like that to cover up the numbers:
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:11 PM
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16. Yes, fires are a part of flooding -- remember Grand Forks in
the early 1990's? There is gas and oil all over the place. People are using candles, gas lines have ruptured -- that stuff would start fires.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:13 PM
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17. fires are VERY common after floods
because of the gas leaks. According to the Red Cross fires are "the most frequent hazard following floods." Flowing water is VERY powerful and it knocks houses off of their foundation and pulls up paving and tears gas lines. Also, there are easier ways to hide bodies. Plus, they don't know WHICH bodies have relatives looking for them or not so they wouldn't know which ones would be safe to dispose of without them being missed.

http://www.redcross.org/services/disaster/0,1082,0_570_,00.html
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Stinky Bushes Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:16 PM
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19. It is not absurd to suggest that
the fires are set purposefully to 1) Create an aura of destruction to further encourage the city to evacuate and Bushie companies to come in there and bulldoze & reconstruct; 2) Hide the dead.

At the same time, I do know that gas leaks have been prevalent which create "lakes of fire" which can also spread the flames to other houses.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:19 PM
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20. well, I will say I think it is common for fires to accompany
natural disasters, and it doesn't surprise me that they started there. There were numerous fires in the Bay area after the massive earthquake in 1989, for example. I think the fires are set by complications from the hurricane, or would have started anyway (for non-hurricane related reason), but can't be easily put out.

It is excellent tinfoil fodder, I'll give you that.
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jilln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:39 PM
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22. There was a report several days ago about an oil spill in the area...
I'm not saying it's TRUE, just that it was reported.

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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:52 PM
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27. absolutely there was an oil spill
murphy oil in the very hard hit st. bernard parish had a well reported spill

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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:41 PM
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23. while discussing this..may i ask all of you..to keep this in mind...
Edited on Sat Sep-10-05 05:42 PM by flyarm
i lived through the 94 northridge earthquake..and people do not think about it..but i always do now...

please keep flashlights in your homes..if you live any where near a coast line or earthquake prone areas or tornato alleys...

most of our homes have gas of some sort..and when ever there is water..floods hurricanes earthquakes tornatos...

we have gas in our homes and our streets..please have flashlights with fresh batteries all the time easily assessible...i have te=hem on hook s by all my doors..and next to night stands..that might sound paranoid...but candles are too dangerous in any disaster..

and nothing will be more important to life than a flashlight...

after the earthquake i went through..i learned that with after shocks the most ipirtant thing you could have was that flashlight..i would sleep with it under my butt!..as the streets kept blowing up of the gas..and i was first sleeping for months in my backyard..and i wanted no delay looking for the flashlight..and after a disaster..its darned tough to get the batteries!!

just a fyi for all the people here i love...make sure you are always prepared..get those mag flashlights they are best..and they are so important!!

and i do think the fires are being cased like in la by gas and electric surges...


ok end of soap box...but i care..and i tell everyone this all the time!!

fly
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 06:14 PM
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25. great advice about flashlights
We lost power a few months back at night. It was totally black, I felt my way to the kitchen drawer where the flashlight was supposed to be and oh what a wonderful feeling it was to find it. Exactly where it was supposed to be.

If I follow your advice, I should get more flashlights and distribute them in the house. I doubt I'll sleep with one under my butt just now, though. ;)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:49 PM
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26. the.........
butt thing is only nessesary when everything in the world in the house is being thrown about in an earth quake!!

i also keep pluged in flash lights that are never allowed to be used unless a power outage..they just stay plugged in all the time...

i never take chances with flashlights anymore...

and really they are a cheep investment!!

fly
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 05:46 PM
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24. Husband and I were saying exactly that.
Tin foil hat I guess, terrible we cannot trust our government!
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-10-05 08:53 PM
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28. Can't talk you down, I thought this myself over 5 days ago.
I hope we are wrong....but I couldn't figure out WHY fires were a problem and WHY they let them burn..... tinfoil hat time I guess.
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