"bush did NOT make the hurricane happen"

[johnnie]

"bush did Not make the levees break", "bush did NOT make New Orleans flood", "bush did NOT tell those people to stay" and so on.

That is all I have been hearing from the right for the last few weeks. Don't these people get it? The point is bush made NOTHING happen, he sat there on his dead ass for days while people needed help. He did just what he did in the early morning of September 11th, 2001...nothing. I will agree with the right on that point, bush didn't make anything happen.

[SunDrop23]

1. Sounds like yesterday's Krauthammer piece.

[ClassWarrior]

2. Great response. Bush** made NOTHING happen.

NGU.

[zbdent]

21. The "nothings" that W did make happen were

all the wrong nothings . . .

What he did make happen was also destructive to this country . . .

[papau]

26. Bush FEMA "National Response Plan rules were forgotton and our media

does not care.

The December 2004 National Response Plan (NRP), the federal Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) most recent plan for coordinated federal response to disasters http://mediamatters.org/rd?http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/... , confirms the Red Cross' status as a "primary agency" http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090002#establishes
that will, under the oversight of FEMA and DHS, coordinate "federal mass care resources" to affected areas. Moreover, in a "catastrophic event," such as what befell New Orleans, the NRP directs FEMA http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090002#directs
to act on its own authority to quickly provide assistance and conduct emergency operations, bypassing state and local authorities if necessary.

And our uniform media responce is to put "some blame" on local and State officials, and on those workers that fled NO rather than stay at Hospitals or on the police watch as their homes were washed away?

When Knight-Rider, Fox, and the Bush Administration are not singing the same tune, let me know. Till then, our media sucks IMHO.

[whatever4]

3. I figure that's why they did nothing

So that...no one could say they did anything "wrong"

LIHOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[w13rd0]

4. "Bush didn't fly those planes into those buildings"...

...and with all of these, the response is: "No, but he certainly didn't do anything to help, or given PLENTY of warning, do anything to prevent it..."

[BrainRants]

5. Their technique is always the same.

Use the straw man "some people say" argument to make a ridiculous claim that absolutely nobody is making to deflect criticism.

This time, it's not working (as well) as it has in the past.

[mattclearing]

6. He can't make a hurricane happen. He can't even make a water truck happen

What good is he?

[mopaul]

7. he didn't make all those poor black folks either

give the man a break, there's a glorious war on

[underpants]

8. LOOK!

The Bush Whitehouse says that it is fine to be critical at anytime other than these three:

1) BEFORE they screw up royally. That is being "obstructionist".

2) WHILE they are screwing up royally or WHILE they are covering up their royal screw up. That is "not offering positive solutions"

3)AFTER they screw up royally. That is "Monday Morning Quarterbacking"


Anytime other than before during or after they screw up is fine.

BTW- step 4 is REPEAT STEP 1

_______


Someone posted that last week. I forgot who but it is hilarioius...and true.

[King Coal]

19. Yeah, and the rest of point 3 is to get over it and move on.

But then if you moveon and organize (moveon.org) they cry foul.

[underpants]

30. "Move on"

I have heard many of the RW noise machine slip and say "Move On" but quickly add "Forward" "Move on forward".

[Vanje]

9. You say Bush didnt make anything happen. Thats wrong!

Bush made a golf ball fly over a green. Bush made his guitar string vibrate. Bush made his mountain bike go fast.

[JuniperLea]

13. and he made cake disappear

He's a magic man.

:sarcasm: ... as if it were needed.

[bryant69]

10. That's a key point

I've heard this argument to, along with "Well what should he have done?" By the way that's a good comeback pretty much any time - whenever you are arguing with someone, don't express your own opinion - make your opponent express his. That gives you something to pick apart.

But that's a digression. There are three possibilities as I see it.

1. There was really nothing that Bush could possibly have done the day before the hurricane hit, the day the hurricane hit and the day after the hurricane hit, so there is nothing wrong with him staying on vacation. He could have had no effect whatsoever. This is totally unbelievable to me - he could at least have provided moral support. HOpe. But he stayed on vacation instead.

2. There were things he could have done, he knew what they were, but he didn't do them. OK - he's kind of a monster, isn't he?

3. There were things he could have done, but he was incable of figuring out what they were so he stayed on vacation. So good buddy, why did you want this nimrod as president again?

That's my response anyway.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. No Bush didn't make the hurricane

but he did help make the flood when someone from FEMA redirected helicopters that were supposed bring sandbags to the 17th Street Levee before it breached.

[leftylady]

12. I'm hearing that, too.

God was responsible.

I never know what to say so I just don't say anything.

[JuniperLea]

15. I never understood why they would blame God either

Makes him seem like an evil bully.

[leftylady]

31. It's easier than blaming Bush

[johnnie]

20. Maybe God did make the hurrican happen

And maybe God made 9/11 happen. That shows you how much God hates georgie.

[rman]

14. Bush did cut the NO flood protection budget,

govt agencies (for which Bush is ultimately responsible) did not respond quickly and appropriately to the post-hurricane situation.

In fact it seems as though the point of FEMA's "emergency management" is to prolong the emergency.

[mtnsnake]

16. "It was an act of God". So God is the latest terrorist who delivered this

attack on our country in the form of a hurricane. I guess God's pissed at us ever since Roe vs Wade and he's lashing out against us with his own terrorist attacks.

Bush & Cheney now have their sites set on Heaven and are gearing up for an attack on this latest haven for terrorists in the sky. WMD's are sure to be found there, and if not, we can instill law, order, democracy, and freedom up there.

[tuvor]

17. No, but as for the levee breaking, he let it happen.

I know, no one could've imagined the levee breaking.

Except for National Geographic, Mr. Bill, and assorted other experts I've been reading about for two weeks now.

[BlueJac]

18. Poor people made it happen.....

didn't you know! :sarcasm:

[johnnie]

23. Yup

And they didn't leave when they were told to. All those little babies and children should have told their parents to stick it up their ass because they wanted to leave. :sarcasm:

[MrBenchley]

22. Chimpy's the GAF pResident...

He didn't make the hurricane...he made the hurricane WORSE.

[havocmom]

24. Bush also did not make levee reinforcement, rescue, and relief happen

And that is the problem. He didn't create the hurricane, but budget cuts and appointments of cronies with no practical knowledge, management experience or human decency did assure the tragic aftermath.

[johnnie]

25. I read a LTTE in the paper today

And that's why I posted this thread. The person also said "bush wasn't at fault that the Governor didn't call in the National Guard". I was wondering "what National Guard?"

[havocmom]

27. Article in Newsweek indicates the WH was not receptive to Blanco's calls

Nor were they eager to tell the shrub how bad the situation was.

Use info here to write a LTTE rebuttle to the winger talking points ;)

[JNelson6563]

28. Bush did not make emergency response happen!

So there.

[johnnie]

29. That's the whole point...

..in a nutshell. They just don't get it.

[rasputin1952]

32. bush did not make the RESPONSE to the tragedy happen either...

he is a complete failure.

Sure, no one can blame Katrina oin bush, but the stupid son-of-a-bitch should have been on top of things....:grr: