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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:17 PM
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I'm so disappointed that I voted for John Kerry and will never do it again
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/09/12/kerry_heads_south_with_planeload_of_hurricane_relief_supplies/


"The 2004 Democratic presidential nominee refused to directly criticize the relief effort mounted by the Bush administration, but he recalled talking about issues of coastal flooding at an event he held in Louisiana during the campaign."

"He also recalled warning that the nation is not being sufficiently prepared for a terrorist attack, especially one targeting nuclear or chemical plants."

Why in God's name with the freak in chief's poll ratings at 38% - can this man not stand up and give GW Bush hell. UFB - is he afraid to be too vocal because he wants to run in 08 - if so SHAME on John Kerry - or is he just too freaking weak - whatever it is I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR JOHN KERRY AGAIN - I didn't want to do it the first time - and I won't do it again

Flame away John Kerry apologists - I'm going to go call his office and scream at them





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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:18 PM
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1. Would it make you feel better
if you knew that he won in a landlside?

He may have...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:20 PM
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3. I hear ya
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Shadder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:20 PM
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4. So what
He was not wiling to stand up and fight for it was he now....
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:22 PM
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7. Since he conceded, NO!
It would make me feel worse!
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:19 PM
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2. I finally peeled the Kerry/Edwards sticker
off my car a couple of weeks ago. What a disappointment he's turned out to be.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:21 PM
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5. I agree - when he failed to demand a true vote count, he lost me
Al Gore, Howard Dean, or lord anyone but a Shrub in '08.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:22 PM
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6. Not Fair, He said Brown should be fired.....
"I think it is not a new criticism that the Homeland Security Department is not funded properly and they haven't had the kind of leadership necessary to prepare," Kerry said. He said Michael Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management agency, should be fired, not reassigned as he was last week.

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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:31 PM
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10. Ooooh that took balls
him and 50,000 others maybe he should have said Brown needs to be fired but the buck stops with the commander in chief and * should be held accountable for having a jack ass like Brown in his administration....I WANT A FREAKING DEMOCRATIC LEADER WHO WILL STAND UP TO THESE ASS HOLES AND STOP BEING CANDY ASSES

I'm sorry but I am so freaking pissed right now my head is about to explode
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:44 PM
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16. Look, it's better than most
I was just talking about how disappointed I was in Obama refusing to say just this.

Your OP left out any comment and portrayed a picture of Kerry having nothing at all to say. Calling for Brown to be fired isn't exactly a refusal to "be critical". It wasn't fair.

Of course I want them to be more aggressive. If the MSM isn't blowing hot air, and they may well be, now that Brown resigned they are reporting that the Dems are going to be more aggressive. I can only hope.

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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM
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22. Big deal
so now Brown is gone and where is the argument? It's the top that has to go, it's the top that appointed him. It's the whole right wing politics that brought this disaster, make it political because it is!
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:49 PM
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26. Look...
My standards at this point are low since most of them didn't even call for Brown to be fired, ok? So I'm not going to jump all over Kerry.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:23 PM
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8. would you guys take this shit somewhere down the hall?
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:46 PM
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20. Boy you got that right. I agree 1000%
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:48 PM
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25. Amen to that, sister C. Especially with "hide threads" blocked. nt
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:56 PM
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33. A-friggin'-men
Pardon me, but I seem to have gotten lost. I thought this was Democratic Underground.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:58 PM
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35. Thanks Catwoman
Another 'Dems must walk on water to please me' string.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:27 PM
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9. Wow, no quotations by Kerry. I question the sincerity of a poster who
would make a decision based on a single article with no quotes. But, I get the feeling that, that decision has nothing to do with this article. The article by the way is one of Kerry actually doing something to help people.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:40 PM
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You're right
the article - which by the way I heard the same report on Air America that he fell short of criticising the administration - is not the only reason I'm pissed at Kerry - but the straw that broke the camels back

And I'm ever so happy that he is doing something to help the victims of Katrina - but you know what he could help this country a billion times more by standing up to these pukes and calling them on this bull shit

Do you know DoD has just put forth a new doctrine that we can use nuclear weapons in a preemptive strike against countries having band weapons or some such bull shit - do you understand that these ass holes are going to get us all killed and John Kerry is delivering baby food - someone else can deliver fucking babyfood we need a Democratic LEADER to deliver the truth about this administration and to fight back....

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:45 PM
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18. i guess you missed Kerry making speeches against nukes
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM by LSK
I think in June. On the floor of the Senate. Watch CSPAN some more and less CNN please.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:06 PM
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41. Real news. What a concept
Too wonkish I suppose.

I sure do watch more CSPAN than I ever thought I would. All three channels are on my favorites list.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM
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24. BTW
it is quite rude of you to question my sincerity - I never said the article was the only reason I wouldn't vote for Kerry again....
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:06 PM
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40. Or rather cannot even read the article until the end
Directly from the article. I guess this is what AP calls not criticizing the administration.

"I think it is not a new criticism that the Homeland Security Department is not funded properly and they haven't had the kind of leadership necessary to prepare," Kerry said. He said Michael Brown, head of the Federal Emergency Management agency, should be fired, not reassigned as he was last week.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:40 PM
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11. Kerry is Skull and bones so is Bush
Need I say more.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:41 PM
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13. Sadly no - eom
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:53 PM
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29. Baseless bullshit
Is that the best we can do? Baseless, tinfoil-hatted, stitched-together-with-spit-and-bale-wire logic that belongs in the pile with "Bush created the tsunami" and "DU is in a conspiracy with the government".

If you knew anything about the man, you'd know that ia the biggest load of horse manure this side of Bush's ranch. Poppy was Skull and Bones as well, but that didn't stop Kerry from investigating BCCI, which involved Poppy.

A bunch of college kids playing fort is hardly enough to conclude that Kerry would sell his soul for his frat brother.

Good fucking God, I weep for the newsgathering skills of the progressives if this is considered definitive proof.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:07 PM
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44. Can you even be bothered to read the article until the end
Three lines after that, he criticizes the administration, as he has been Saturday during his Corzine's endorsement.

A lot of BS and bad faith from your part.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:46 PM
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19. huh huh huh -- he said Boner!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM
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21. S & B = B & S
No, you needn't say more.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:41 PM
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12. We need more candidates like Hackett that are not risk-averse n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:42 PM
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14. what do people want Kerry to do exactly???
Go on 500 talkshows and challenge Shrub to a duel at high noon?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:00 PM
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36. Oh, probably
They want to feel like he's fighting for them, even if he's not. Apparently we prefer feel-good emotion to actual action. Action isn't sexy. We want someone to show up on TV and get all red in the face.

Why would someone be disappointed in the man when he's bringing aid to Louisiana, and getting publicity which he is using to criticize the response last week. Just what he's said here rancored the local Republicans I listen to on the radio, so that has to be a good thing. Why does it have to be a red-faced rant?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:43 PM
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15. Why don't you read Kerry's own comments and look into his actions since
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM by blm
the hurricane hit.

Kerry sent a supply plane to Miss. the day after the hurricane hit. Then he went to Iraq. When he returned he crafted a package of legislation to relieve small businesses hit by Katriina. He also set up a congressional investigation into the 9-11 funds that were targeted for small businesses effected by that event that found their way, instead, into businesses owned by friends of Bush and Cheney. He wants the investigation now to expose the ploy so it doesn't happen to Katrina funds.

Then in a speech last Saturday he said Bush's actions bordered on CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE. Few papers carried the comment.

Now he's sending a second plane of needed supplies while he has a column running in some papers.

http://www.chicagodefender.com/page/commentary.cfm?ArticleID=2247
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:06 PM
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42. Only matters he went to Iraq if he went to assess pullout soon rather than
so-called "getting it right". A positioning which he will live to regret. Whatever good he has done on hurricane relief, his prominent support of the continued "mission" in Iraq that has effectively kept national guard there and away from hurricane relief here is a problem amoing many others that invalidates him as a viable candidate.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:44 PM
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17. Uniformed Flamebait - "avoidance of real problem solving in favor of spin"
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 03:53 PM by emulatorloo
Kerry said response bordered on "criminal negligence" at a Corzine rally the other day. Sorry no link, cuz no press coverage.

also quoted as saying

<snip>

Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic presidential candidate in 2004, said in an interview: ``It's a summary of all that this administration is not in touch with and has faked and ducked and bobbed over the past four years. What you see here is a harvest of four years of complete avoidance of real problem solving and real governance in favor of spin and ideology.''

<snip>

Du thread here on that one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4696435
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:47 PM
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23. I guess I'll never get over this asshole flamebait thread
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:54 PM
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30. I know
I'm so disappointed.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:55 PM
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31. I'm going to peel my "Asshole Flamebait" Sticker off my car right now!
if it make you and catwoman feel better.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:58 PM
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34. I didn't post this to become a flame bait although
obviously I thought it might end up this way. I joined DU a few months after it started - I joined so I would have a place to vent my frustrations and that is what I did with this post. If John Kerry said the other day that this administrations actions bordered on criminal negligence I THANK him for that but I didn't hear about it so I think he needs to say that every freaking time they put a microphone in his face or are writing a story about him - because I assume he is the presumptive Dem leader and we need help and we need to keep beating on the fact that in deed this administration was criminally negligent until everybody gets the freaking message.

I'm frustrated with this country and actually SCARED for the first time after this fing announcement of DoD about preemtive nuclear strikes

I've called Senators and Representatives and just kind of get thanks for calling I'll log you comments - I just don't know what to do any more.


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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:03 PM
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37. Is that why you added "Flame away Kerry apologists"
Because you didn't intend for this to become flamebait?!

That's like Bush saying he didn't expect the levee to break.

BULLSHIT!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:07 PM
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43. everybody's upset, but Dems are trying hard and speaking out
and it is still undereported by the media what Kerry and others as saying and doing.

I hear you on the "thanks for your comments" responses. Keep calling, keep insisting and call the repugs too.

We have to keep fighting, but not by turning on Dems who are trying to oppose the repugs and Bush.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:50 PM
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27. No worse than the rest of our "leaders"
I hope they remember how they got scewered by the Pukes about 9/11
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:51 PM
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28. Borders on "criminal negligence"
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 03:56 PM
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32. That's nice dear
I, on the other hand, would vote for him any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:04 PM
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:06 PM
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39. You don't know much about politics

John Kerry is doing what he is supposed to do as a dignified leader. The time for recrimination will come soon enough.

Meanwhile, climb down off your horse and do your job and direct your indignation at the appropriate targets.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:07 PM
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:08 PM
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46. Locking.
This is flamebait.
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