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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:21 PM
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I think the bush administration is out to start a civil war...he has
Christians against faux Christians, whites against the blacks, repugs against the dems, is this the plan to take over America? (just listen to the hate radio)
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:22 PM
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1. Divisness their most potent weapon
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:24 PM
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2. Divide and conquer ... it's as old as the hills (n/t)
Flem.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:25 PM
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3. This IS civil war in its beginning stages. n/t
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titoresque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:25 PM
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4. Wouldnt take a whole lot
for it to go that way would it?

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:27 PM
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5. nah--he merely intends to replicate in detail every move that was made
that brought forth the Civil War, only this time with better weapons and more efficient communications. And this time they'll do it right and the war won't actually happen, and everyone will realize the brilliance of the Federalist neocon position, settle down in their plantation style jobs, (or starve to death, who cares?) and stop bothering the Grownups.

Isn't that the old definition of insanity? repeating the same actions but expecting different results?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:29 PM
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6. It's economic and class warfare
* and his obscenely wealthy masters vs. the rest of us
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RallyInDC Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:32 PM
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7. its already begun. and we're going to win and drive them out.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:07 PM
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9. I agree - we'll kick their ass but it will take time
They are armed to the teeth but if
you look below the surface.. there is nothing there.
These reichwingers are false patriots who don't truly
believe in our constitution.
They are false christian who don't truly
believe in the teachings of christ.
They are even false republicans who don't
espouse the ideals of their own party.
It's easy to go on and on but the point is
that their movement is built on the shifting
sands of hate, intolerence and oppression.
That's why they will lose.
That's why they've lost countless times
over and over throughout the history of mindkind.

Eventually truth and liberty will win.
Eventually.. we will win.
We will.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:46 PM
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8. If they get enough trouble brewing, the justify martial law
it is that simple
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unless Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:14 PM
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10. Yep - here's a letter I wrote the day after the election "results"
I sent this to a conservative Christian women's list I belong to, after a woman said, "I don't see how any Christian could vote for Kerry" (I just had, for the first time in my life, voted for a democrat)

Luke 11:17 and 12:51-53 - But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

What's completely true is that our nation is divided. I'm fairly sure God doesn't want His Church to be the mouthpiece of any political party, and I'm quite sure that His Truth doesn't lie with the political pundits on the major news networks.

We need to remember to look where God wants us to look to see His Truth. I have heard so many friends unknowingly repeat things from the media which are skewed. It's all about the spin. For example, "Bush had the largest popular vote ever" - Did the media also say that Kerry had the second largest popular vote ever? Nope. They both beat the record from Reagan's 1984 election landslide...
Bush(04): 59MM Kerry(04): 55.5MM Reagan(84): 54.5MM
The IMPORTANT thing that should have been touted is that we had record VOTER turnout.

There were shenanigans from ALL parties which all Christians should fight against in future presidential elections. For example:
-Some people were intentionally sent reminders to vote on November 3
-Phone lines were deliberately jammed to prevent handicapped voters
-from calling to receive a ride to the polls
-Party-biased groups posed as survey teams, took new voter
-registration cards, and destroyed the registrations if they
didn't have the right party affiliation
-Tires were slashed for vehicles intended for "Get out the vote" work
-"Investigators" entered elderly voters' homes in an attempt to
intimidate them...

Rather than fight over whether one candidate is better than another, if Christians really want to be able to rejoice at the end of an election, they should band together to support campaign reform, promote candidates who really support Christian values(principle vs issues), and prevent voter disinfranchisement.

I don't feel there's much to rejoice about in this election - I really do feel that neither candidate was an appropriate choice. Kerry waffled too much, and I find it hypocritical that while Bush's marketing campaigns were directed at religious conservatives that he doesn't belong or go to a church. Can he walk the walk? Jimmy Carter had enough time to go to church and teach Sunday School when he was President - but Carter didn't golf nearly as much.

Our nation is divided - I pray for our leaders and the world, and I pray that the Christians of this nation will take control over the process rather than hope that one of the parties serves up a "lesser of two evils".
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:16 PM
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11. So Helliburton can rebuild everything.
The only reason they love war so much.
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