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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:34 PM
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SO! The Los Angeles stuff was a stunt???? What do you think? n/t
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:37 PM
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1. accidents do happen
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:39 PM
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2. This proves it - you shouldnt believe everything Fox News tells you!
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 07:40 PM by EOO
I saw that yesterday and it was sickening. It's just the conservative spin cycle (which is currently set to max power) just deflecting the negative spin on Commander Cuckoobananas.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:39 PM
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3. You're at this again?
Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch...
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:42 PM
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4. ???What??? Don't understand your response. n/t
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:43 PM
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6. Wasn't this you?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:19 PM
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28. Nope, and you'd think I'd be a target!
I mean, I do post here, and all those bumper stickers...

I guess the jackbooted thugs must be so busy with all the riots, looting and fires (WHICH AREN'T HAPPENING, for those too clueless to get my sarcasm) that I'm low on the list!

Sheesh!

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:23 PM
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34. So, no black helicopters yet either?
They are always following me.
They think I don't know about them, but I do.
The praying mantis in my backyard told me.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:30 PM
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41. I've actually seen black helicopters before.
But not following me, and not acting particularly suspicious.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:31 PM
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44. See? That's what they WANT you to think!
They're very good, eh ?
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:43 PM
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55. I've seen a black helicopter too. It wasn't following me and wasn't acting
suspicious either. But it may simply have been a diversionary tactic.

While I was watching it a pigeon shit on my head!

Coincidence? Ha!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:45 PM
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58. That was the Stealth Pigeon 4000, the newest unmanned drone.
See, they're a bit low on funds these days...

:evilgrin:

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:51 PM
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60. *SNORT*
:rofl:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:59 PM
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61. Actually that's a true story! LOL. But I really don't think the
helicopter was in on it. The pigeons have been targeting me for years.

LOL
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:06 PM
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62. Yeah, pigeons don't need any help.
Now the squirrels on the other hand ...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:50 PM
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59. I knew it !!!
They are following all of us.

You can't be too careful, just ask this guy:

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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:17 PM
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63. Could YOU operate all that equipment?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:26 PM
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67. Is that what the tin foil is for?
And you'd be surprised what an ex-Marine can operate.;-)
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:35 PM
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69. Then you know that all Marines wear and extra protective layer of foil
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 09:35 PM by buddysmellgood
under their helmets. :)
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:45 PM
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71. We didn't.
The damn things are hot enough as it is, no need to broil your brain.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:20 PM
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30. Another one.
I might not have as many posts as you, but I know what BS is.

By the way, whatever happened to the 'Bushville' you were so fervent about?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:24 PM
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35. Bushville ?
That's a new one?
What is it?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:39 PM
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51. You missed that shenanagin?
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 08:41 PM by utopiansecretagent
I don't have search capability, so I can't direct you to the multiple threads about it.

Let's just say there are some here who are a tad bit overzealous in their activism (search poster GeorgeBushyTail and Bushville).

Or perhaps it's something more.

Above poster making accusatory remarks took part in that debacle to a degree.

Not that the idea itself was a bad one.....

It's just the misleading aspects of the poster(s) and posts that cause my suspicions...



:eyes:

edit: Oh, yeah, searching GeorgebushyTail won't get you anywhere: he's a granite slab now.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:44 PM
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57. They don't like me very much.
I don't pull any punches when it comes to paranoid rumour mongerers.(is that even a word?)

They've accused me of far worse, believe me.
This is kiddie stuff.

I'll do a search, I'm always curious to see how these "theories" feed off from each other.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:10 AM
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80. Uh, I just read through the bushville threads.
And people wonder WHY some of us hate these stupid attention-whore rumour mongering paranoid conspiracy threads?

No, we're not vulnerable to trolls or disrupters, are we ?

If I WAS a freeper, I would be starting dozens of these idiotic rumours and then use them to show the world how gullible DUers are.

:banghead:


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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:04 PM
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19. that's a great thread though. lots of good laughs!!!
ack ack ack
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:07 PM
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20. ack ack !!!
One of my favorite movies !
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:13 PM
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23. I understood it perfectly.
You seem a bit overzealous today...
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:42 PM
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5. Indulge me please. What Los Angeles stuff?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:44 PM
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7. Big conspiracy, LA had a power outage today.
:eyes:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:54 PM
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10. You sure are defensive of home grown, justified skepticism Scottie.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 07:55 PM by shance
Why do you blow a gasket at threads that question the motives of this Administration?

Why is that?
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:57 PM
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14. No, I am a skeptic.
YOU are a conspiroid.

BIG difference.

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:13 PM
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22. Again, your paranoia is not "justified skepticism".
It was an accident.

You have ZERO evidence that this was a stunt, or a drill, or anything nefarious.

I repeat: you have nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Nothing but wild ideas with no proof whatsoever.

Some of us, who actually live in the affected area, aren't kicking and screaming about martial law and the impending boot to the neck in the middle of the night.

It's one thing to be suspicious. It's quite another to go off, as you and the OP have, half-cocked at the slightest little thing.

Until you actually have something other than your fevered imaginings, perhaps it would be best to refrain from accusing a well-known DUer of being a b*s* sympathizer, since you clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:15 PM
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26. Thanks, Zhade!
(psst! I think the power outage is Onager's fault. We TOLD him not to use those toys during peak hours)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:17 PM
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27. I warned him!
(Well, not really.)

It's all good, BMUS - I'm just getting really annoyed by people who don't even live in the area going off on wild fantasies about AN ACCIDENT.

I mean, shit, if my toast burned, should I blame the administration?

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:26 PM
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38. Um Zhade?
I live in Los Angeles.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:28 PM
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40. And yet, you had power during the blackout...how conveeeeeeeeeeenient.
Had your back up generator all ready?

Looks like you knew this was coming.



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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:31 PM
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43. Then obviously "those who don't live in the area"...
...does not apply to you.

The rest, however, still does. Unless you have evidence of your claims?

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:24 PM
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36. Zhade, if you want to believe the media and the Administration and
NOT QUESTION the events that take place like a city wide power outage in the middle of the day in LA, then by all means, knock yourself out.

I for one am not arrogant enough to assume I know the truth about what happened today, because we have been lied to one time too many.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:30 PM
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42. False dilemma.
Either he believes YOU, in all your tinfoil glory, or he "believe(s) the media and the Administration".

Like I said, you'll have to try harder than that if you want to play with the big dogs.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:36 PM
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46. Of COURSE you're arrogant enough. This very post displays that arrogance.
You're essentially saying that because I "want to believe the media" (inaccurate, and of course you have no possible way of knowing what I want, as you can't read minds), your NOT believing the media is the right thing to do, apparently. That's the arrogance of thinking your version of my reality is correct.

It's not.

You also have no idea what I've questioned. Just because I don't accept as fact your unproven, unevidenced allegations that the administration was behind this accident does not mean I have no questions.

But, in your arrogance, you assume things about me you can't possibly know, and have the audacity to actually claim you're NOT arrogant.

That's just laughable.

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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49. Because power outages never happen in LA or anywhere else in the middle
of the day?

Now this was a power outage: http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/02/blackout.final/

The PTB are really losing their touch.....
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:19 PM
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29. Is That Why...
DirecTV was out for a good hour today?

Tammy
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:26 PM
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37. I don't live in LA but that'd be my guess.
What a pain in the ass that must be.
Imagine being on an elevator, in the dark, with strangers.:scared:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:39 PM
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52. All of DirecTV? When?
I called them earlier (I work for them), and was informed there were some losses, but not that the entire service went down.

More info would be interesting, if you can share.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:45 PM
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8. A stunt? Our power went out. Not really a stunt at all
what do you mean?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:57 PM
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13. Im not sure what it was Beaver. Can any of us feel fully confident
it wasn't a stunt?

The truth is its one more thing that doesn't add up, or does it add up.

You decide. Im not sure. I think it could have quite easily have been a stunt from the way mainstream media played it WAY up and then played it way down. I dont trust the mainstream media and I don't trust the actions by this Administration. I wish I did.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:59 PM
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15. I'm fairly confident it wasn't
it was only out for an hour and it seems no real harm was done.

come on...Bush has committed most of his dangerous acts right out in the open. Do you think they need to distract us somehow?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:15 PM
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25. The media played up Katrina - by your logic, the hurricane was a "stunt".
Please, use some common sense - just because they MIGHT have done something doesn't mean you can claim, without any evidence to back your claims up whatsoever, that in fact the administration caused this accident.

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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:21 PM
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31. Zhade, please don't put words in my mouth. Im not saying it was
A STUNT********one more time......I DONT KNOW.

IM SAYING NONE OF US CAN SAY WE KNOW FOR A FACT EITHER WAY.

That is part of the the consequences of having an unethical Administration is its essentially impossible, or very stupid, to believe anything they say.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:33 PM
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45. When did the administration say there was a power outage?
I don't remember them even commenting on it.

Must be that "inside" information you have.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:43 PM
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56. If that's your position, I'd suggest you stop attacking posters, then.
You've twice accused BMUS of being a b*s* fan for not accepting your view, yet now you say you don't have a view one way or the other?

Either you're backpedaling, or you fly off the handle WAY too fast. Maybe switch to decaf, eh?

(I do acknowledge that you did not use the word "stunt", but only went along with the poster who did use the term. My apologies for the inaccuracy.)

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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:54 PM
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11. I do believe this is called fishing. n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:55 PM
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12. .
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 07:56 PM by crispini
:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

:eyes:

edited to add: in the words of Groucho Marx, "sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:03 PM
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17. I think you are the stunt.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:03 PM
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18. don't know don't care
too many of my peeps have been w.out power for two weeks

you dudes in l.a. can handle it for a few hours

after all

out there

"it's a dry heat"
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:21 PM
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32. Seems it was a typical worker accident and has been resolved. n/t
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:22 PM
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33. This is What Made Me Think it Was Fake...
Why would terrorists attack Melbourne, Australia? L.A. I can understand, but Melbourne? Does al-Qaeda suddenly have something against the Aussies?

Tammy
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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48. Australia Has Troops In Iraq
nt
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:26 PM
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39. My Air Condition Went Out Today
I'll bet it was a LIHOP job...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:37 PM
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47. Elmo.
Elmo is always behind these things.

See?
Here he is using a phone as a timing device to detonate the C4 inside your air conditioner (a handy trick he learned from the Mossad):

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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:40 PM
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53. LOL. Elmo in the Mossad. LOL...oh wait a minute, you could be right!
:scared:

:rofl:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:11 PM
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78. lol
:nuke:
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:38 PM
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50. Rove, definitely. n/t
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MojoXN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:41 PM
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54. Random coincidence...
Nothing more. If it had been a stunt, it would have been more catastrophic, and the Bushco. response would have been quite swift and decisive.

MojoXN
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:18 PM
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64. Sure, whatever.
:tinfoilhat:
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:19 PM
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65. What this shows, is how horribly vulnerable our power grid is. This was a
mistake, but it shows how easily would could be attacked. We operate our electrical infrastructure at capacity. Bush invests in war, not in protecting us, and this is what we get.
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81. Locking
This sort of unsourced speculation makes us all look like we frequent the tinfoil haberdashery.

Plus there's the flamewar...

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