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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:05 PM
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Oh my! Looky here! Looting in Belfast! ATM Machine LOOTED!
Just in case we forget that White folks riot and loot too after seeing a billion negative images, and captions, out of N.O. this week.

Also this interesting quote comes from a Guardian article:

"Imagine what the reaction might have been if republican, not loyalist, gunmen had fired on the police this weekend. There would have been all hell to pay. And rightly so. Republican political leaders would have been expected to make a public choice and to assert their authority with their supporters on behalf of the rule of law and of peaceful and democratic politics and against the paramilitaries."

Sort of like Finding v. Looting, eh?

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:06 PM
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1. Isn't Ireland the most neocon place in Europe?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:08 PM
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2. Not Ireland but perhaps Northern Ireland.
Lot's of Ian Paisley types...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:09 PM
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3. One of them has almost no taxes. The lowest taxes in Europe. Which
one is that?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:19 PM
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6. Perhaps but I wouldn't call Ireland "neocon".
Sinn Fein is a quasi Socialist party for goodness sake.

Yes abortion is still mostly illegal but the ball is rolling too the Left.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:58 PM
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18. Depends on where you are
The buckle in the Bible Belt of Northern Ireland

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1563260,00.html
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:40 PM
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9. The republic
of Ireland.

Celtic tiger etc
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:11 PM
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4. Terrorists! Terrorists! Terrorists!
When does the Orange Order make the list?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:16 PM
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5. I have friends from Belfast who are Catholics.
They tell me that Catholics are treated there by the Protestants like white people treat the Blacks here. So you see, when you disenfranchise a group of people for whom they are, they become, what do you say, less loyal to the mainstream.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:22 PM
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7. How can one know another's religion by looking at them?
It's not like its tattooed on their foreheads.

I know what you mean, but the comparison is weak.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:37 PM
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8. It's very institutionalized in Ireland. They know you from
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 09:38 PM by Cleita
your neighborhood. If you aren't in their Church, you are in the other one's church. You can't go to the same schools or drink in the same pubs. One of my friends actually lived in a Protestant neighborhood because her mother was orginally Protestant although converted to Catholicism so she was allowed to live there when widowed, but her children were treated like second class citizens on a daily basis and they had to go to the school the Catholics went to.

What do you think the big stink is about the Orangemen (Protestants) marching through Catholic neighborhoods every year? That's the equivalent of White Supremists marching through Harlem with a burning cross and the Confederate flag once a year, just because they can.

And you are right, they all look alike.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:52 PM
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16. The surname gives it away
Murphy, O'Brien, O'Reilly are very Catholic.

Protestant Irish names are more Anglicized.
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:14 PM
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19. I don't know, but my friends from County Tyrone say the same thing.
They know by surname, and what football team they support as well.

Strange.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:06 PM
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10. Too bad my granny is no longer with us...
This would make her smile.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:24 PM
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11. They used to say that the Irish were the, er, blacks of Europe
So there you are. It's still those people being disorderly.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:30 PM
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12. Different Irish...
...usually it's the Southern/Western Irish that were referred to as "Black Irish". No sir, these are the White Irish who are looting. Brilliant.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:33 PM
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13. I think the black Irish refer to marooned Moorish sailors
that were shipwrecked in Ireland and assimilated into the population. Hey, does that make them Islamic terrorists, too? :shrug:
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:36 PM
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14. Yes, referenced in the movie
'The Committments'...only they use the forbidden word.

Exactly what they were called for years.

Nothing to do with the 'black Irish' reference either
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:49 PM
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20. No, "Black Irish" is a different thing
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 02:49 PM by DavidD
The saying that the Irish are the blacks of Europe has nothing to do with the Black Irish but rather has to do with the status of the Irish at one time.

I think the idea that the Black Irish are descended from marooned dark sailors, presumably from the Spanish Armada, has been refuted.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:38 PM
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15. You mean "ATM" or, perhaps, AT Machine
;)
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 10:55 PM
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17. It's really a feat of the human mind to continue
believing stereotypes in spite of solid, contemporary evidence.

If whites aren't "prone to loot" why are there so damned many of them doing crank and robbing folks in gangs around here?

Why did they try to break into my trailer when they know I probably own less than they do? Can't white people hold down jobs?

Why did they break into my neighbors' house when the neighbors have four small children at home to care for? Are whites cruel and heartless?

Why did these whites steal the gas out of another neighbor's tractor, when he is one of the hardest working, kindest men around? Do whites have no souls?

Why did a young white man shoot and kill two other white young men RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION in a town not far from here? Have whites NO respect for human life or law?

You see how easy it is to assume things about a group?

But they are INDIVIDUAL humans who make these poor choices, and these INDIVIDUAL humans come in all shapes, colors and sizes.


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