Should we eat crow? It appears Capitol Hill Blue was right all along

[CatWoman]

CHB kept ran several "inside the WH accounts" which we deemed as not credible.

Seems that guy knew what he was talking about.

My granddaughter throws less tantrums.

On edit: due to several requests, I did a google search. Came back with lots of hits. Most of those hits were posted on DU.

http://www.google.com/search?q=capitol+hill+blue%2Bgeorge+bush&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Here's the link to the Time Mag article: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103581,00.html

and the News Week article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/site/newsweek

[sniffa]

1. depends on who 'we' is

i never doubted his tantrums.

[CatWoman]

9. *sniff* *sniff*

is that Sniffa??

:hi:

[TomInTib]

2. Crow in oven right now

who was it that said no matter how bad things look, it's worse?
Something to that effect.

[soleft]

3. my thoughts exactly

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4745739&mesg_id=4747266

[CatWoman]

19. heh

great minds, you know :D

:hi:

[lonestarnot]

65. He exposed himself as a nutfucking case in the debates with Kerry...

and people still voted for the freak...so is this suppose to be new? And I'm not eat'n no crow as I have said it all along... he's a sideshow freak! "Fuck you bushitler, just go fuck yourself bushitler!" by some M.D. whose name I can't remember...

[Eric J in MN]

83. Polls after the debates showed the majority of the viewers

thought Kerry won all three.

As much as the Exit Polls (or more so) I regard that as evidence of electoral fraud.

[lonestarnot]

91. me tooooo... but what we gona do riot? A riot of two ain't much LOL

:spank:

[blm]

108. A challenger trouncing a SITTING PRESIDENT in all 3 DEBATES should've been

the biggest news for weeks at that time.

Geez, the media made a bigger deal about the Red Sox sweeping the Yankees than they did a Dem senator sweeping a SITTING PRESIDENT.

Instead, the media downplayed it as "Well, the debates aren't that important anymore." and "But, George Bush can't be beat on the terror issue." as they gave absolutely NO REASON why that was true while ignoring every fact that proved their statement was decidely UNTRUE.

[jim3775]

4. Care to provide some examples of

What CHB exclusively wrote we know now to be true.

Edit: I really have no idea what the OP is referring to.

[Whoa_Nelly]

10. This one

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=33&num=5141

Bush Taking Anti-Depressants to Control Mood Swings
By CHB Staff
Jul 28, 2004, 06:13

President George W. Bush is taking anti-depressant drugs to control his erratic behavior, depression and paranoia, Capitol Hill Blue has learned.

The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately.

<snip>
“Keep those motherfuckers away from me,” he screamed at an aide backstage. “If you can’t, I’ll find someone who can.”

Bush’s mental stability has become the topic of Washington whispers in recent months. Capitol Hill Blue first reported on June 4 about increasing concern among White House aides over the President’s wide mood swings and obscene outbursts.

more at link

[jim3775]

17. So we know now that bush is taking drugs to...

control mood swings? Did I miss something? I didn't hear anythig about this. *shrug*

[CatWoman]

23. there were several threads

but I'm sorry you didn't see them.

I ain't about to search thru all that stuff either.

You can, tho.

[jim3775]

32. Why is it up to me

It is up to the OP'er to provide a link to support the post. Burden of proof.

[CatWoman]

33. I did just that

go back to my original post.

[jim3775]

40. How does that prove anything?

You are just searching for capitol hill blue+george bush. There is nothing there to prove CHB is right.

[CatWoman]

43. go back to my original post, read the articles

the Time article is there as well.

I report; you decide.

NOTE: As I explained in my original post, those hits from the google search were posted here on DU.

Do I fucking work for you or something?

[RevolutionStartsNow]

18. I always believed THAT one

seemed perfectly in line with his public persona...I know he likes think he comes off as "folksy", but I always saw a guy who seemed right on the edge of extreme anger.

[liberalhistorian]

52. If I had been raised by the likes

of Babs Bush, I'd be on the edge of extreme anger, also. And here's what really infuriates me, as someone who's struggled with depression and anxiety all her life (didn't know it until my late 20's, though, when it was finally diagnosed and I got some medicine). The wingers have always made a big deal out of anti-psychotic medicines like anti-depressants, etc., saying they really aren't needed, people just need to "buck up" and "take personal responsibility", etc., etc., blahblahblahblahyaddayaddayadda. That's like telling a diabetic to "buck up" and get along without his insulin, or something like that.

And they've always smeared and attacked anyone running for office who they find takes such medicines, or the family members of anyone running for office who may take such medicines. Remember Colin Powell's wife, who was on anti-depressants? A major reason he didn't run for president was because he didn't want her dragged through the mud the way he knew the wingnut GOP fuckers would do.

So, it's not the fact that Bush is taking these medicines (he very obviously needs them), it's the whole HYPOCRISY of it that infuriates me. The usual selfish creed from the Bushes and the GOP, it's okay for them, because they always have a good reason, but it's not okay for anyone else because other people never have a good reason.

[SeattleGirl]

68. Right on, liberalhistorian!

I have used exactly the same example, telling an diabetic to "buck up". Many mental health problems are due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and the medicine helps correct them so you can function well. Like you, I suffer anxiety and depression, and was not diagnosed until my 30's. Thank God for the medication. And if anyone wants to tell me to "buck up" and go without it (that includes you, Tom Cruise), well they can go to hell. And you know what? If * needs medication, I am the last person to make negative comments about that. I just hate the hypocracy of these people!

[Ladyhawk]

98. Yeah, what liberalhistorian said.

I have to take anti-anxiety and anti-depressant medications. If * would say, "Look, I realize I have a problem" and come clean, resign, step down, I might even be able to feel sorry for him while he spends the rest of his life at the Hague.

[Whoa_Nelly]

57. A few weeks ago I had used the CHB article in a reply post,

and I was slammed unmercifully. :hide:

[Name removed]

28. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[WiseButAngrySara]

29. Tertiary Syphilis?..Organic Brain Dysfunction due to Alc/Drug abuse?..n/t

[Sarojin]

45. Being born to his parents

and then killing hundreds of thousands of people for greed and power, how could he not be insane? How can there even be any question about this?

[WiseButAngrySara]

92. No question here. He is a mass murderer. NOLA by negligent homicide,

and the Iraq and Afghani Wars by intentional homicide. He is indeed insane. (Or I am.)

[FormerDittoHead]

132. Nothing about anti-depressants in the Time or Newsweek articles...

...that I could find. What's been confirmed?

[WiseButAngrySara]

14. I'm waiting with bated breath too!.....n/t

[CatWoman]

39. go back to my original post

[WiseButAngrySara]

93. Thanks! I had posted too soon. I caught it!.....n/t

[librechik]

5. hey, we always knew it was true

we still can't prove it.

The Time story is not enough. We need more NON anonymous people coming forward.

[hardrainfallin]

8. what I'd like to see are UAs n/t

piss test Bush. Now. pee in the cup.

[G_j]

20. is there a new Time article

we might want to read?

..trying to figure out what you all are talking about.

[CatWoman]

34. ....

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103581,00.html

[G_j]

42. thanks!

off to read this,,,

[marbuc]

50. I don't get it

this article says nothing about any tantrums on the proportion of those cited in Capitol Blue.

[CatWoman]

51. you think it's normal that your staff is terrified to tell you that your

vacation has to end because a major seaport has flooded?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/site/newsweek

[Jawja]

116. and you are

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and being available 24 hours a day, 365 days a year is YOUR JOB??

[CatWoman]

117. Jawja!!!!!!

hey girl!!!!!

:hi:

[Jawja]

127. CAT!!

Hey!! Good to see you!

:hi:

[johnaries]

6. Occasionally, even the National Enquirer prints the truth.

I still don't believe in the Bat Boy, though.

Personally, I don't remember anyone saying that the story wasn't credible, just the source. We were all waiting for confirmation from a more reliable source.

Looks like we got it!
:D

[FlaGranny]

61. Bat-Boy = World Weekly News. n/t

[johnaries]

84. Frankly, I wouldn't be too proud about knowing the difference...

:evilgrin: :hi:

[FlaGranny]

110. Thanks for the insult -

Have you never been in a supermarket? You couldn't miss it. Besides that - I did a search, because I knew it was not the Inquirer. I did a google on "bat boy." Try it.

[RallyInDC]

7. a three year old throws less tantrums. BUSH is a whiny brat!!!!!

lets KICK HIS ASS OUT

its time HIS BOSS, CALLED AMERICA FIRES HIM

get on the bandwagon it ain't stopping...

[mopaul]

11. is bush a raging maniac? yes

bubble boy to the extreme

[WilliamPitt]

12. I got a busted watch that's right twice a day

Want to apologize to it?

CHB is unreliable garbage.

[CatWoman]

26. and "na na na, boo boo" to you, too!!!

:hi:

[derby378]

31. I tend to agree - my wife calls CHB "liberal porn"

All CHB has to do is provide me with an authenticated MP3 recording of Bush in one of his alleged tirades, and I'll back off.

[Eric J in MN]

94. "progressive porn" has alliteration. Or "porn for progressives." nt

nt

[tavalon]

130. That's funny

I read the OP, posted my pithy reply and then went down the list to see what the venerable Will Pitt had to say since we so often have the same opinion on things. I avoid reading your stuff first, though, because I want to make sure I'm not being your parrot. I don't care to be anyone's parrot.

Anyway, the funny thing is, I posted that a broken clock is right twice a day..........

This amuses me.

It brings me back to the first time I saw you speak and I leaned over to my boyfriend and said, I think I've found the twin I was separated from at birth. He agreed since he'd been listening to my rants for so long and they were so similar to yours.

While this is funny, I'm grateful for the times we don't agree because after a while, it gets creepy.

[chelaque liberal]

13. What are you refering to?

[never_get_over_it]

15. I always knew CHB was right

when they reported on him pitching fits - no proof - but that would be completely consistent with his bully - frat boy attitude - I always knew there were no WMDs for first because I know the man is a freaking liar and then much later I heard Scott Ritter who claimed they weren't there - he just confirmed what I believed.

So even if I can't prove that * swears and screams and is a nasty ass - I know it is true.

[Eric J in MN]

87. Bush is intolerant both

in a personal way and philosophically.

But I still don't believe the specific quotes in "Capitol Hill Blue."

They have too much of a telling-progressives-what-we-want-to-hear quality.

[never_get_over_it]

90. I'm not sure I believe

their exact quotes - but I sure do believe he pitches fits - and their quotes are probably not too far off - just looking at the way he walks and smirks you can tell if he doesn't get his way he is probably very nasty and then there is his mother who apparently is quite the charmer herself (remember she called Geraldine Ferraro a bitch) and everyone says he takes after her.

[StefanX]

16. Yeah, I thought about that too

Now that the Newsweek article is out ("How Bush Blew It"), it looks like Capitol Hill Blue was right all along.

CHB always "passed the smell test" as far as I was concerned. Bush looked weak and snippy and unstable.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. What stories were they running?

and how do we know he was right?

[stevietheman]

22. I still don't think that specific story was/is true. Not even the...

latest accounts back up what's in the CHB article.

[buddysmellgood]

46. I thinkk it's true, but I think the story is just a good guess.

[stevietheman]

47. It's a "good guess" at best... it's too bad the author didn't present...

it as such. And this wasn't the first time the author's veracity has been questioned.

Note that I would love to believe the article. But without substantiation and due to this author's track record, I just can't go there.

[sandnsea]

24. I haven't seen the story yet

Linky pretty please, especially if it's even worse than what CHB had to say. :bounce:

[CatWoman]

36. ....

time article:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103581,00.html

CHB articles:

http://www.google.com/search?q=capitol+hill+blue%2Bgeorge+bush&sourceid=firefox&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[sandnsea]

60. Thanks, interesting

I've read the CHB articles, didn't doubt Georgie was a bully, just doubted anybody was actually talking about it. Guess they were. Time article is interesting, how can people cover up for a president who is so obviously incompetent. I'll never get that.

[CatWoman]

66. also note the News Week article

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434/site/newsweek

[sandnsea]

80. Just read that

CatWoman... MY HAIR'S ON FIRE!!!

I always knew he didn't care and I always knew he was an ass and I always knew he was incompetent.. but to see it right there in black and white... madre mia :scared:

[CatWoman]

85. I mean, people were dying and his staff was afraid to tell him

that he had to cut his vacation short?

:wtf:

[sandnsea]

88. Let's put it in a movie

he can watch it and we'll stand in the other room..

And the part about liking numbers? I wondered what the hell all those numbers were about last week, now all I can think of is Vietnam and body counts. No wonder Bush doesn't know what the hell is going on anywhere in the world.

And their solution is to just flippantly throw money at the Gulf? I knew they never cared about spending money, it's controlling WHO gets the money they care about. And he's going to run on tax reform next year??? :crazy:

This is some scary shit.

[DanCa]

25. I think Kentucky Fried Chicken is now serving crow

That's why it tastes so horribly greasy and I have nightmares after eatting it.

[FlemingsGhost]

27. Is there proof that they are, indeed, correct?

Or is your own speculation, serving as proof?

[CatWoman]

41. go back to my original post, read the articles

I report; you decide.

[FlemingsGhost]

48. LOL ... I always figured you were a "Fox"

Thanks.

[CatWoman]

53. LOLOLOLOL

:D

[NVMojo]

30. we is who? I believed them

[Name removed]

38. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[jim3775]

44. TBR news is a web spin-off of...

the barnes report. The barnes report is a nazi revisionist history "journal".

[lectrobyte]

35. Sorry, I missed any newsflash that validated CHB's scoops -- what

are you specifically referring to? Thanks.

[CatWoman]

37. ....

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103581,00.html

[seemslikeadream]

49. Here's a thread from LBN 320 posts I think

Bush's Erratic Behavior Worries White House Aides

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=602189

[lectrobyte]

107. Sorry, didn't see anything in there about * speaking in tongues or having

seizures. Yelling at someone in a meeting probably happens with every president. Maybe even every meeting...

[jim3775]

54. No crow here. Let's break it down.

Since the time article is supposedly proof that CHB's inside source was credible, I am going to break it down and prove no crow is needed.

Firstly, CHB did not exclusively report "from inside sources" that bush lives in a media bubble. This has been mentioned sevral times in much more credible sources, printing something you already know to be true and claiming it is from an "inside source" is sloppy journalism (and imo proves that CHB is highly suspect).

Here are two articles to prove this:

Asia Times:The Bush in the bubble May 14, 2005

and

The Monarch
February 24, 2005


Now the key assertion in the CHB article link is that bush is taking medication to control mood swings. Nowhere does the time article say any such thing

Another "fact" from this supposedly true CHB article:

"The prescription drugs, administered by Col. Richard J. Tubb, the White House physician, can impair the President’s mental faculties and decrease both his physical capabilities and his ability to respond to a crisis, administration aides admit privately."

Okay so let me get this straight, rank incompetence and cronyism, coupled with a de-funding of important branches of government isn't the reason bush fucked up on katrina, it was his crazy mood swings?! Again nowhere does the time article say any such thing.

There is no crow needed here.

[CatWoman]

55. oh, get off your high fucking horse

Time wasn't the only article that let us know Bush is a bullying, foul-tempered loon.

[jim3775]

58. Stop peddling bullshit

The time article does not say bush is "a bullying, foul-tempered loon".

[CatWoman]

59. *sigh*

Make a deal with you -- I'll stop peddling bullshit, when you stop acting like you run the place.

[jim3775]

64. I read the article

I can't find anything to support that claim.

[TankLV]

99. You should take your own advise.

WE highly recommend it!

Especially from someone so afraid of himself that he disables his profile.

But we know to take your spew with a grain of salt!

[Lifelong Protester]

56. Hmmm... well the title of the TIME article...

is enough to send me back to my original conclusion, that the president is getting more and more isolated ( The Bubble Boy) which is exactly what happened to Nixon. I believe Bush will out-Nixon Nixon with erratic behaviour. Both men do NOT like to lose, and want to have the appearance of being 'loved by the masses' even though they loathe the masses.

I think Bush will self-destruct, and while that may not prompt his resignation (well, *sigh* we can dream can't we?) I can hope it at least will do enough damage to his party and the current 'regime minds-set'.

[Roland99]

62. What does that Google search prove? Not much. just sites linking back

[CatWoman]

63. again

I said that the articles in google link had been posted here on DU.

People kept asking which CHB stories were posted on DU.

Rather than search CHB's archives, I did a google search.

[Brightmore]

67. How does the Time & Newsweek articles

prove that CHB was right about Bush being mentally insane?

[CatWoman]

70. they prove that someone hasn't been paying attention.

[marbuc]

75. Sorry, as much as I love to criticize GWB

I don't see anything in either article showing anything more than a short temper. No mood altering drugs, no irrational rantings, nothing. Clinton was also known to have a temper, yet certainly was/is not insane.

[SeattleGirl]

69. I read he threw an absolute fit when someone took "his" seats

at a Ranger's game. And I apologize as I don't have the source right here with me, but I think it was either in "Fortunate Son" or "Shrub". I've lent both books to my daughter so....

Okay, I'll shut up.

[Sapphire Blue]

71. Read "Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President "

... by Justin A. Frank, M.D., a clinical professor in the Department of Psychiatry at George Washington University Medical Center.

[fortyfeetunder]

72. Connecting the dots

It's just a matter of time before the dots are all connected and Cat Woman can have a nice roasted crow BBQ for all you doubters to eat...

Recall 30-something years ago, Nixon was acting irrationally before his attempted impeachment and eventual resignation....Since it was pre-Internet, it wasn't in the WaPo at the time, but it was the talk of the town.

[Peace Patriot]

124. Big difference, though, is Nixon really WAS president. Not so here.

Hard to figure what's going on here. SOMETHING is, though. That's for sure. I tend to think it has to do with Treasongate. Bush clearly got stranded, and was hanging out there in the media, without his usual support system, for 4 to 5 days. Now, the spin machine is back in gear. Was Rove negotiating his Treasongate pardon? That's my guess.

And maybe more than that. Some kind of threatened coup going on, re Cheney. Maybe why Daddy Bush and Clinton came out and stood behind Jr. Cheney threatening to rat on Jr. in Treasongate--and they appeased him with Halliburton contract, and strongarming of Blanco to turn LA over to him. (--didn't quite work, but enough $$ to be made to quiet Darth).

Dunno. I sure had the feeling the White House was in disarray.

-----

Here's an idea. And I think it's really cool. How about we find a way to restore our right to vote, and vote this criminal gang out of office?

Neat?

'Stead of letting THEIR cronies "count" the votes with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code?

Any takers? Any Democratic leaders out there who think this might be a good idea?

Jeez.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

73. I'd love to see a "Nixon-Ziegler" moment

There was a notorious video clip in which Nixon was seen getting irritated at his press secretary Ron Ziegler, turning around, and angrily pushing him out of the way with both hands.

[Eric J in MN]

74. I retract nothing.

Like most DUers, I know Bush has a bad personality.

That doesn't mean that Bush said all the things "Capitol Hill Blue" claims he did.

For example, one of the CHB articles claims that Bush chewed out a staffer over Veterans of Foreign Wars wearing these bullshit protectors:



That seems to me more like a way to pad an article and tell progressives what they want to hear, then something which actually happened. I doubt Bush noticed the Bullshit protectors.

More on them at:
http://www.speakspeak.org/speak-blog/index.php?p=1061

[CatWoman]

77. Eric

you're the most polite, reasonable dissenter I've faced.

Thanks for that :hi:

[Eric J in MN]

79. You're welcome. (nt)

nt

[jim3775]

81. Thanks for the backhanded slap

I really appreciate being insulted. /sarcasm

Way to keep the discussion elevated and mature.

[TankLV]

100. You deserve it - big time!

[jim3775]

123. self delete

converting post into PM.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

76. Links please?

S'okay, I seen 'em...I just wanted to really piss you off.

:hide:

[CatWoman]

78. HAHAHAHAHAHA

:hi:

[Kazak]

82. Oh...damn.

I thought you were talking about the one that stated that Fitzgerald's indictments were coming down for pretty much the entire adminstration, from the Chicago grand jury (as opposed to the DC one).

Drat!

[jim3775]

86. That was Tom Flocco not CHB

Tom Flocco also said that the Clinton's and the Bush's worked together to asassinate JFK jr.

[mzmolly]

89. EEK -

Recommended. God what a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGG mutha f-n three years this is gonna be. :beer:

[Ouabache]

95. I will try this in this thread since lots are now paying attention

Tardive Dyskinesia:

CLINICAL PRESENTATION

The term "tardive" or late dyskinesia was introduced in 1964 and refers to an iatrogenic disease associated with neuroleptic drug use (American College of Neuropsychopharmacology FDA Task Force 1973, Fann and Lake 1976).

Tardive dyskinesia (TD) is a syndrome of hyperkinetic involuntary movements characterized by a mix of orofacial dyskinesia, tics, chorea and/or athetosis (American College of Neuropsychopharmacology FDA Task Force, 1973). Orofacial dyskinesia is the most characteristic feature of TD. It is slow in onset, which may begin as mild tongue movements, followed by exaggerated movements of the tongue and lips. Bulging of the cheeks, chewing movements, blinking, blepharospasm, grimacing, and arching of the eyebrows also occur. Movements of the extremities and trunk are also noted in some patients. These include choreoathetoid-like movements of the fingers, hands, arms, and feet. Truncal involvement may produce rocking and swaying and rotational pelvic movements.

Usually TD appears while patients are taking neuroleptics, although movements often appear for the first time or increase following a dose reduction or discontinuation of the drug.

Movements in TD may worsen with emotional stress, volitional motor activity, and attempts to inhibit portions of the dyskinesia. On the other hand, movements decrease with sedation and disappear during sleep. Patients should be evaluated at least several hours after awakening and about the same time each day since movements tend to be worse in the afternoon and least severe just after the patient has awoken in the morning (Hyde et al 1995).

http://www.vh.org/adult/provider/psychiatry/CPS/08.html

======

DOes this remind you of anybody we know???? hmmmmmm?/

[applegrove]

96. Step back a few steps. .... Now you have to wonder why after 5 years

we suddenly hear gossip from inside the WH.

Why?

So Bush can take the blame for all the neocon & RW crap. For all the diminishing of governance.

So that their dream can continue unabated.

They always need a scapegoat - looks like Bush whose done nothing but parrot what he is told - is now going to get all the anger at all the failures dumped on him.

Cause they can get rid of him in the next election.

And keep their jungle juice flowing.

[Dr Fate]

101. No way- the base wont buy it. Congressmen need coat tails.

n/t

[applegrove]

105. Actually - I just read somewhere that these stories have gone around

to journalists for ages. Journalists have just decided to talk about them now. I guess the anger & outrage finally was too much to give the Pres a "walk in the park".

[Dr Fate]

112. The GOP base LOVES GW. They will not squeeze him out.

n/t

[wiley]

97. No different than those who support him

We need to replace the concept of "rednecks" with people who are congitively and emotionally dysfunctional. It's not a Southern thing. Wealth and power expose individuals to a self serving version of reality that isn't reality at all - just a way to perpetuate control and power.

[Garbo 2004]

102. Bush is an asshole, we already knew that. But I do think something else is

going on with him. Remember the videos of his performances in debate years ago, before he was pres, contrasted with his later performances in public speaking? Obvious deterioration.

Whether it's the condition Ouabache has suggested in a post here or something else, I don't know. I'm not Dr. Frist who can miraculously diagnose at a distance. He may or may not be medicated up the whazoo and what the hell was that box on his back he appeared to be wearing, even on the ranch?

I read Cap Hill Blues and TBR news for entertainment purposes. They take bits of stuff already known and then add to it. But sensationalistically and of course without a way to confirm any of the most interesting bits. Time mag does not confirm the most "interesting" claims of either. It tells us what we could already figure out for ourselves, based on corporate media reports, his performance and conduct in public. It doesn't tell us he's on psychotropic drugs or goes on bizarre rampages.

I've worked for a couple of narcissistic solopsistic assholes who could make you regret telling them what they needed to hear when they didn't want to hear it. They didn't go on rampages. They didn't have to. They had power over their employees and used it in a relatively low key but effective manner.

I'm also wondering who provided the "insider" details to Time and why? Perhaps except for the former employees, the currently employed administration sources clearly were trying to spin the story positively, the idea of Bush in charge, angry and wanting results and moving forward. The Time piece isn't much of a revelation IMO and doesn't really confirm the controversial gossip promulgated by CHB and others.

The facts we do know and can see for ourselves is disturbing enough. No sensationalistic gossip is needed to know that this guy and his gang should not be in power.

[nadinbrzezinski]

103. I''' serve you some kemosabe

I never doubted them... his behaviour has been telling

[NYC]

104. Thank you, Cat Woman.

:hi:

[CatWoman]

109. hey you!!!

:hi:

and thank you

:D

[charlie]

106. Nope

I could have written that. You could have written that. Neither of us would claim it was an "insider's scoop", though. Thompson's got a crap record when it comes to scoops, ie, he makes shit up.

[LibertyorDeath]

111. After reading the Time article I think I'll go

:puke:

They tried hard not to be so hard but the guy is a walking disaster.

[rinsd]

113. I don't see how these articles support CHB?

If anything it would seem CHB takes articles like the above and embellishes them with details the writers "know" to be true.

Kind of like Wayne Madsen without the conspiracy.

[chicagiana]

114. SELF DELETE

SELF DELETE

[Zomby Woof]

115. The only one eating crow...

Is Lance Armstrong.

[txaslftist]

118. I'm stir frying my crow...

CHB not such crackpots after all.

[Terran]

119. I always thought they were likely true

but I was always, like, "Who's your source, dude?" :)

But seriously, it's not us who should be eating crowe, it's all those freeps who still think Bush is a guy they'd like to have a beer with. Reality is, Bush is someone most of them would walk away from in a bar muttering, "Asshole!"

[CatWoman]

121. Hey Sweetums

:hi:

I never did get that "beer" thing. :shrug:

I drink with either people I like and can relate to, or who's pants I'm trying to get into :evilgrin:

[Terran]

126. LOL, slut!

And you a grandma! :spray: :hi: :loveya:

[ewagner]

120. Don't pass the crow yet...

Granted, the Newsweek story IMPLIES that Capitolhillblue was right, but I still don't see any signs of the Pres being fed drugs and ranting out of control....

keep the crow handy but I'm not ready to accept everything capitolhillblue said about Bush*

[nadinbrzezinski]

122. middle finger to the country

[blogslut]

125. While I don't doubt Dubya

is a mean, childish man in private, I do now doubt the reliability of Capitol Hill Blue.

I'm sorry I ever cited them as a source.

[tavalon]

128. Even a broken clock is right twice a day

It doesn't make that source a reliable source.

[CatWoman]

129. OH, go back to bed!!!

:evilgrin:

[tavalon]

131. I slept for 10 hours woman!

I'm up and I'm feisty! ;)