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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:03 AM
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On casualties
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:09 AM by nadinbrzezinski
ok, ok I don't know how many of you have caught the conversations on how you hide casualties. Today I was watching CNN and apparently trick number two will not be used....

Per CNN they will actually link all deaths at the storm to the storm regardless of cause of death.

Now they were not going to do it, and the fact they went public means that we may have very well made a difference by basically blogging about it.

I know this is not something many of you pay that close attention, but I am... others do pay way too much attention (guilty as charged) but I think the media in has prevented some of the old tricks, as well as media awaremenss...

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:07 AM
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1. You go girl!
:thumbsup: :hi:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:09 AM
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4. We go, all of us go
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rwenos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:07 AM
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2. I Wonder How Many Husbands Will Take This Opportunity
to disappear. Katrina would have been great cover for the odd disgruntled husband to step off the planet, only to emerge in Los Angeles with a new driver's license, eh?

Is it perverse to think this way? (The same thought occurred to me after 9/11.)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:08 AM
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3. no, there is a percentage of folks who will do taht
as well as a small percentage who will put in false claims
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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:32 AM
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5. If florida is any example,
there will be a lot of such false claims. I remember the sentiment last year being 'well my neighbor is getting a chainsaw and a generator, so I might as well get one too'. Naturally, these are people who are well off enough that they should be the ones donating their things to the more needy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:34 AM
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6. nfortunately that is less than 1%
but they make life difficult... but florida is a good example where also false claims were filed, at the behest of some in FEMA, Randhi Rhodes had the documnets on her site, perchance she still has them
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Qibing Zero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:35 AM
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7. Hah, I wish it was less than 1% of the people I know. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:39 AM
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8. I am talking general statistics,
these may and will be flaunted by personal experience

When I did this with the Mexican Red Cross we used to process all our evacuees at the refugee centers, but then again the Feds did not have anything like FEMA, but that avoided some of the problems... of course you always had the but I live with my mom... we could afford to say we only have things for these folks, mostly it was true... here the problems get more complex... partly due to human greed, and resources

Why this response is so shcoking... looks too close to the major disasters upon disasters, caused by lack of planning. We learned our lesson locally, but the few times I had to go national, (or international) I had to get creative.
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Marlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 01:54 AM
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9. I love to read everything you post.
Serious compliment. You are so darned intelligent - keep on
posting because I always learn something from you. Thank you.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:06 AM
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11. the lesson is
get active, trust me there are days I want to throw in the towel, there are days I go to bed with a smile in my face
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:04 AM
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10. fact is, people are STILL dying, not being rescued.
I just read Will Pitt's wonderful post about the guy who went to New Orleans to find his girlfriend (Will knows the guy). As this guy paddled around New Orleans in his boat, there were people needing rescue - whom he took into his boat - and one house where a crying baby lay between two sitting people who were dead. He saved the baby.

Who knows how many thousands of people are STILL dying?

Here's Will's story - don't miss it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4752099

And yes, I agree - the suit by CNN to force reporting of deaths did help. The administration will still try every trick to lie about the numbers, especially about when the people died, but thanks to the CNN suit, SOME of the tricks won't be so easy for them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:07 AM
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12. But, but, but teams are twidling thhumbs, both national
and international, another phone call another day...
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:13 AM
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13. Oh yeah. Did you see the CNN video clip of Bush congratulating himself
today on how it was "extraordinary" how he signed those emergency orders for Katrina so fast? And more. Unbe-frigging-lievable. It's here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4752689

He was talking like a gradeschooler proud of his test score. And he was belligerent about anyone who dared to suggest that having the National Guard out of the country might have made any difference.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:19 AM
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14. He IS getting rather snippy
the photos today though were the real article... body language spoke volumes
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 02:29 AM
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15. Oh yes indeedy, the body language was most eloquent.
All the rehearsing in the world can't turn that sorry excuse for a human being in the White House into a decent man, let alone the treat leader he is trying to pretend to be.
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