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Tue Sep-13-05 11:08 AM
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Thank you, Mr. Bush, for your honesty |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:09 AM by Charlie Brown
I just heard that he accepted responsibility for the government's failure with Katrina. Whatever differences we have with him, it takes a big man to admit his mistakes. This may be the first time he has been genuinely honest since taking office. I commend him.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:09 AM
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1. I don't think it's that simple |
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They probably had hours of meetings on whether or not he should. He doesn't say anything that substantial without polling first.
The GOP knows Bush is well on the way to pulling them down with him.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:10 AM
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2. Oh, Charlie Brown...don't be a blockhead |
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Please wait for the full details. Bush has never told the truth in his life, and this "acceptance" of blame is guaranteed to have strings attached.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:13 AM
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12. You are so right on this and thank you Lucy for being so lucid. |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:58 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:10 AM
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3. It does take a big man to admit his mistakes |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:11 AM by berni_mccoy
But Bush did ANYTHING but that. He's been FORCED to admit any mistakes here... Just yesterday he was patting himself on the back: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2086954
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:10 AM
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4. Screw him. He's doing the only thing that will keep him politically alive. |
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This is not a meaningful apology or acceptance of responsibility. This is trying to turn around poll numbers that are in free fall. Nothing more.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:16 AM
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After two weeks of reich wing spin failed, he had no choice but to say he accepts responsibility.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:11 AM
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5. commend him? fuck him. |
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His only motivation is his low low low numbers in the polls. If they bounce up a bit, then the same old a-hole will be back.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:11 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:11 AM
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7. You might as well thank Karl Rove while you're at it. |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:13 AM
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11. I'll thank him when he Resigns, |
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Resign Mr. * , You Suck!!
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:12 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:13 AM
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9. "Me sorry. Now let's nuke Iran, who's with me?" |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:13 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:16 AM
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22. Damn bowl of oatmeal ... |
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It keeps starin' me down! :rofl:
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:14 AM
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13. Thank you...and now, RESIGN! |
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You've proved you're incompetent at everything except running the US into impossible debt and ruining our diplomatic relations with everyone.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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14. This is a set up, pure and simple |
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He took responsibility for the FEDERAL part. Now watch a BIG move towards blaming the majority of deaths on the local and state officials. Count on it.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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15. Rove is probably having a heart attack. |
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How can shrub take responsibility when the failure was at the local level? (so says the spin machine, and the pukes) Man, shrub really messed with the pukes head when he said that. They are going to be so mad.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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58. No. Because ROVE told him to say that! Focus groups say... |
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APOLOGIZE. Bush does NOTHING without the Turdblossom's blessing. It is written on index cards in his pocket. This is how Bush started out and how he has to remain. He hasn't a clue. Do you all get that? Bush is out of his freakin' mind most of the time. AND.. he has a severe aversion to taking blame, to criticism, and to losing. Rove told him to go in and apologize then float the trial Iran war (courtesy of the fuckers at PNAC) balloon and see how it flies with the focus groups.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:28 PM
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102. So, taking into consideration what you just posted... |
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The shrub-0 is probably in immense pain for having to accept responsibility. :applause:
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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it is not that easy to accept when GW has lied so fucking much in the past. GW is a dishonest person with and agenda that does not include the poor and black in this country, his priorities only include the upper 1% in the country. :kick:
NO FREE PASS HERE FOR GW!!
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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17. I don't want bush's brand of 'honesty'. He's in CYA mode. |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:15 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:16 AM
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19. OOhhhh! Good start, George, |
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If you need to be reminded of all the other shit you're responsible for, I for one, would be glad to help.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:20 PM
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Welcome to DU! I could help too.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:16 AM
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21. He's just a rat slithering out of a trap |
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He knows the talking heads will say: "ok, he fessed up. let's move on to nuking Iran"
Bullshit.
This fucker gets NO passes from me
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:17 AM
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23. Wow, the republicans have turned on their leader, and they're throwing |
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him out to dry.
I love the cannabilism of the republican party.
Either they've got something incredibly Rovian in the works, or the people in charge of Shrubbie have decided he's too much of a liability and are throwing him off.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:17 AM
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24. He was still calling "blame game" on any ?? re accountability yesterday |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:17 AM
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25. It appears you fell for it, WAKE UP! |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:18 AM
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26. It's a kid apologizing for hitting his sister while mom slaps his head |
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"YOU (whack) APOLOGIZE (whack) TO YOUR (whack) SISTER! (whack whack)
He isn't apologizing for any other reason than an attempt to stop the slapping. Zero sincerity.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:26 AM
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34. Good point, Atman. n/t |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:18 AM
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27. Did he say "me" or the "government"?? |
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Didn't hear it because all I see is Roberts' hearing. But there's a whale of a difference between saying "I fucked up" and "the federal government was a screw up". In fact, spitting on "government" brings his base to orgasm.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:19 AM
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28. Charlie Brown you blockhead |
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He's not being honest he is twisting in the polling wind.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:21 AM
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29. How is he not being honest? |
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He said flat out that responsibility for any failures rested with him. Forced apology or not, it's the truth.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:27 AM
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36. "How is he not being honest?"
"How is he not being honest?" |
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No offense CB, but haven't you been paying attention the last 5 1/2 years?
He'd admit to being one of the Manson girls if he could get his poll numbers high enough so as to attack Iran with impunity.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:30 AM
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41. I'll repeat the question, how is he not being honest? |
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He said that responsibility rested with him. Do you disagree?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:35 AM
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50. Put down the football, Charlie |
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He will say ANYTHING - don't you get it??
Do you think he actually BELIEVES it? Of course not - it's a fucking sham. Poll driven. If we screw this up we can't attack Iran driven.
Remember last week to Pelosi - "what went wrong?"
The only folks who believe him are those that want to - get it???
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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57. I'm commending him for publicly admiting his mistake |
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That's really a first from what I've seen. In the debates, he wouldn't even admit to making any mistakes. This admission is probably forced, but it is still honest, and for that, I commend Bush.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:41 AM
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63. Did you actually hear him say it? |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:44 AM
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66. I read the statement online n/t |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:47 AM
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70. And you found it honest?! |
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What was "honest" about it?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:48 AM
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72. He accepted responsibility for the government's failures |
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That much at least is honest.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:51 AM
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74. After an equally long delay |
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he "took responsibility" for the 16 words in his SOTU address, then dumped it all on Tenet. I expect similar exoneration from the proposed "bipartisan" commission.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:00 PM
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but it's definitely NOT honest! he doesn't have an honest bone in his body.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:01 PM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:48 AM
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71. The guy's a fucking liar.... |
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this is a ploy to suckers for support.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:01 PM
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86. How can he accept responsibility |
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for something HE has maintained was NOT their fault? What degree of guilt does one bear for something they aren't guilty of? Sorry, Bush does not get a free pass on this one...empty words from an empty man....while HIS fellow Americans were suffering and dying, he was eating cake, and basically ignoring the horrid situation, that he alone, WAS totally responsible for(it is HIS signature on the paper that pulled funds, right?)and until he comes out and point blank states it WAS ALL HIS FAULT....no statements are accepted...period!!
Takes a big man, to admit mistakes...congratulations, you got the message they wanted you to get..... So now do we all get down on our knees and worship this *@^%$, or what??? Perhaps we should ask the displaced persons of NOLA, who lost everything, including loved ones/pets/homes, how they feel about his generosity? windbreeze
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:29 AM
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39. "I want to know what went right and what went wrong." |
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This is what he said. That is not the remark of someone who means that he is responsible. That is the same thing the idiot said two weeks ago. "What went right"!? He's never going to get a clue. He said he accepts responsibility because someone told him to say it.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:35 AM
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51. Anyone smell LEGACY BUILDING???? |
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That's what I smell. Expect the gushing guffaws of W's honesty and "doing what is right" despite what is best for him.
(rasies back of hand to furrowed brow) Oh my he is ... he is so selfless in the face of relentless blame (Scarlett O'Hara southern accent gets really heavy here) what a fine fine man he is. He cares not what others will think of him only what is right and true and just in this dangerous dangerous world.
Trust me this is what is coming. The stinch will be worse than W's mess in New Orleans.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:39 AM
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61. And it'll be sponsored by CNN and Hardball |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:45 AM
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68. "Next on Hardball.. How great is the President?" |
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Howard Fineman will tell us.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:23 AM
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30. "TO THE EXTENT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT |
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WAS AT FAULT" ....he's sorry.
No fucking apology.
No fucking way.
Its all qualified and to be followed by him investigating himself to see 'what went right.....and what went wrong'
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:42 AM
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64. Can't you just see what's coming next? |
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It was Blanco's fault!!!
The Federal Government response was almost perfect, but dad gummit I apologize for only getting 99.28% of it correct!!!!
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:04 PM
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DING DING muhf***g DING Jacobin got it right |
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Sorry I hadn't seen the full quote on any article yet. Yep you are right he put that qualifier and a half on the front end-easily snipped off for better soundbiting. "To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/HurricaneKatrina/wireStory?id=1121978
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:24 AM
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31. **sniff**sniff** Anyone else smell the ghost of Ronald Reagan? |
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If Shrub does "accept responsibility", not only will it be framed in terms of "Reaganesque", he'll take responsibility the way Reagan did too (specifically thinking of the Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon):
In name only, and effectively derailing a competent investigation and thorough review of what happened in order to prevent similar problems in the future. And then attack a small country somewhere to restore the halo of victory.
(on edit): Oops! Looks more like the standard non-apology apology. "I'm sorry if you were offended..."
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:24 AM
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32. WHATEVER.... if you believe this I've got some desert property |
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in NEW ORLEANS to sell you...
don't fall for this stupid act of admission of responsibility, he wouldn't know responsibility if it bit him in his lying asscrack.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:25 AM
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33. Accepting responsibility means nothing unless unless it is a |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:29 AM by Benhurst
prelude to resignation. If the asshole resigns on Thursday night (fat chance), then I'll cut him a little slack. But he will still be a war criminal who needs to be sent to the Hague.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:26 AM
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35. i'm sure i'll get bashed too, but i agree with you charlie brown |
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Whatever strings are attached, whoever made him say it etc., this is a step toward something bigger.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:30 AM
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42. 'step forward to something bigger?" |
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:rofl:
:rofl:
Like invading Iran?
wtf?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:31 AM
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43. Something bigger? Perhaps. But I suspect they ran it by a few |
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staffers and maybe a focus group, and this speech "tested better."
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:28 AM
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37. What kind of responsibility will he take? What will he do with it? |
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I'm betting he still tries to cast blame. I bet they are doing this just to make him into a martyr.
They may as well. There is already a handfull of Bush loyalists who think he is Christ.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:28 AM
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38. Uhh, First He Says There Was No Problem, Then He Blamed Everyone Else |
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and only now, over two weeks later, he takes responsibility??? You call THAT being a "big man"??? LOL! You're easily impressed.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:30 AM
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40. Commend him? His mistakes were DISASTROUS! He has No CHOICE |
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but to fess up now. Yesterday, he was saying that the goverment acted in a concise manner! Please spare me.........
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:31 AM
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44. You're doing a heckuva job, Mr Brown |
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Let's see what the greasy weasel's angle is. Give it time, you may regret this.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:32 AM
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He isn't admitting shit. When I hear him say, "I take responsibility for all the needless deaths and suffering in New Orleans", and THEN he resigns, then I might believe he's sincere.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:33 AM
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46. Are you fucking kidding me???!!! |
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Those are words! And you believed him?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:34 AM
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48. Yes, I believe that responsibility for this relief failure rests with Bush |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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I don't disagree that the responsibility rests with fuckface |
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I meant, do you believe that he was honest in saying he's responsible? We knows he's fucking responsible but aint no way in hell was he honest.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:02 PM
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89. Yes, all of it, and his cabal of criminals |
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'To the extent that the responsibility lies with the Federal Government' ~ means that he and they will now conclude that that 'extent' was so miniscule that he is most likely barely responsible at all.
We will find out that to a much greater extent Gov. Blanco and probably Clinton are at fault (whatever happened to Haley Barbour, btw?)and he can scurry on back to 'getting on with his life' which, of course, means ending the lives of countless others.
You have to pay careful attention to the words they use ~ he faltered a lot this week, maybe Karl was busy with his attorneys trying to extricate himself from his own problems, but this statement means they're on their way back.
Had he said 'I alone am responsible for the failure to respond to this great tragedy. Let's stop the blame game. The buck stops here'. Then I might have believed him. But when you see words like 'to the extent' you know he's leaving himself a great big out, while at the same time, giving the impression of taking responsibility, which will most likely fool some of the people, but not all of them.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:27 PM
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101. I agree 100%. The ultimate responsibility rests with *. And what needs |
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to happen now is a complete, comprehensive, bi-partisan investigation to examine the failures and recommend corrective action. Admitting responsibility is the first step. Doing something about it is the next. It's easy to say "I fucked up." It's much harder to do something about it. The failures go far beyond negligence, gross or otherwise. Such catastrophic failure, admitted or not, must be examined in detail. Remember Clinton and his blow job? This is orders far beyond lying to cover a personal failing. This is dereliction of duty of the highest magnitude.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:04 PM
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113. Talk is cheap. How do you think he can actually act responsibly here? |
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What would "taking responsibility" look like?
I wouldn't be holding my breath for anything unusual to come from this PR maneuver.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:34 AM
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47. umm...it's not honesty, it's called spin |
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A new Repugnant theme: Republicans take responsibility vs. Democrats who play the blame game.
I guess Rove is recovering from his kidney stones and back in the saddle.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:34 AM
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To claim responsibility means accepting the consequences of that responsibility. In this case, it should mean resigning from office. Even that is not equal in magnitude to the deaths he's "responsible" for.
It's all words. Meaningless.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:35 AM
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52. BULLSHIT! IT"S ONLY WORDS FROM AN INDEX CARD!! |
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Yeah, and my ex husband used to apologize after he verbally assaulted me. WORDS, that's all they are. Empty apologies. Total bullshit. He is ONLY APOLOGIZING because he was told to? Don't some people get that??? Focus groups TOLD Rove that Bush should apologize. He doesn't mean it. Why just last week he was asking Pelosi what exactly went wrong? As though he had NO idea what was going on.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:36 AM
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53. bullshit -- They planted the seeds of blame on Blanco and the |
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seeds have sprouted enough now for B* to "say" he accepts responsiblity.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:37 AM
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54. Bull, he is just setting up for his speech on Thursday where he will |
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shower accolades on the response of the PRIVATE sector and promise that he sees where reform is needed for government to support the PRIVATE sector being the key response vehicle and he will be asking Congress also to take up this issue.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:37 AM
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55. Total "weasel word" usage - he said |
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"To the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility,"
I'm surprised he didn't come straight out and say "Now it's time for the Mayor of N.O. and the Gov. of La. to admit their faults as well..."
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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56. LOL. Thank you? I don't think so. |
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The man isn't really taking responsibility. His poll numbers are in the toilet and he had to say something to make the sheeple think he actually holds himself accountable. THAT WOULD BE THE DAY. They're only words. I don't buy it. Whenever a repuke says something, the opposite is true. Don't forget that.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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59. No, It takes A Big Man To Rectify His Mistakes. No Resignation, No Credit! |
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:38 AM
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60. Well, don't get TOO excited. He said "To the extent that..." |
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the Feds screwed up, he takes responsibility for that screw up.
But, remember, he thinks the Local/State gov. was more at fault so really, he wins no points with me unless he resigns in that big fancy address he's fixin' to give us on Thursday.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:40 AM
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ok first.....:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
and now.......:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:
yeah, that feels better.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:43 AM
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:44 AM
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67. you are WAY too easily impressed and gullible as h3ll |
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... words are cheap for a con artist like Monkey Puke George.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:46 AM
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69. HELL NO: He doesn't want us to investigate negligences !!! |
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If he apologizes then the repukes who are demanding investigation will consider this matter closed.
Please don't drink the kool-aid
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:51 AM
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Why in the world would you commend him for anything? He's not a big man and no one here besides you think he is. He's a big fat headed liar and an incompetent boob.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:52 AM
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75. When does fuckhead take responsibility for 9/11? He didn't need to, |
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because due to a nationwide Kool-Aid overdose his poll numbers went way up after 9/11.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:52 AM
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The "no mistake" president admitted a mistake????? What's the deal?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:52 AM
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77. He isn't admitting his mistakes. This is the same crap as with the lies |
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in his state of the union address. It means nothing.
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:53 AM
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78. His "responsibility" is really "crocodile responsibility" |
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If there is such a thing, but this is nothing more than a calculated move to deflect blame. He hasn't the introspection or conscience required to accept "responsibility."
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:04 PM
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90. *dauphin has NEVER "taken responsibility" for anything. |
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His entire life has been spent influence peddling, failing miserably and being bailed out. To place ANY faith in the mouthings of this *sock puppet is being gullible, stupid and ignoring the facts
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:55 AM
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If DUers think this is a genuinely honest move by Bush, how many in the general public will think likewise? This should trun around his drop in the polls, if that is the case. And that's the whole idea...
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:57 AM
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Dude, are you serious?
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:59 AM
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he should have done this 2 weeks ago! :mad:
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Tue Sep-13-05 11:59 AM
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83. How fucking naive and gullible are you? |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:00 PM
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84. Hollow sentiments from a husk of a man. |
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Total PR bullshit.
When you accept responsibility you do things like apologize, get rid of the folks who were advising you, resign, SOMETHING, not just some rah-rah bullshit.
He hoodwinked you, pal.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:02 PM
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88. "Listen" for the hidden message: indicates action opposite of what he says |
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Bush said. "I want to know what went right and what went wrong."
This is too similar to his statement regarding the outing of Valerie Plame. By stating he "takes responsibility" means absolutely nothing beyond trying to exert more damage control, and to take the focus off the real issues involved in how badly things went went wrong and how he totally fucked up. In part, the hidden response is that it's NOT HIS FAULT! This also could represent the preface to a completely partisan investigation that he wants to head; the statement of him leading an investigation re: Katrina that has pretty much disappeared from the WH media spin when he first stated this is what he wanted. Don't fool yourself for a minute that this more than likely Roverian tactic has been forgotten as part of a larger plan that is in the works.
As is par for the course, and well worth paying attention to, is that whatever this asswipe says, he means and/or does the opposite. This has been his MO in the political arena, as well as his personal life, for many years.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:10 PM
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93. So after a couple weeks of saying "it's their fault", ROve sees the polls |
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and tells bush to say otherwise... and you commend him for following his orders?
WHY?
*sigh*
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:11 PM
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94. Balls. He doesnt' mean it. |
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He can't fool me. He has NO genuine understanding of the concept of "responsibility."
It's just another cynical PR ploy.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:11 PM
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95. Is this a full acceptance or a half assed one? |
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You know their internal polls must be devastating for him to do this.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:14 PM
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96. If he really wanted to do the right thing - he'd resign |
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He is incapable of making good decisions and leading.
He needs to go
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:16 PM
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97. Are you drinking the grape flavor or the fruit punch flavor? |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:19 PM
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98. Anyone can say they take responsibility. Now he's actually got to DO it! |
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I don't see how his faux acceptance of responsibility is anything commendable...
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:25 PM
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100. The GOVERNMENTS mistakes, not his own |
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he has NEVER taken responsibility for his own mistakes!
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:29 PM
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103. No offense...but this might be the funniest post I have ever read!! |
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Did you actually use "big man", "accepted responsibility", and "genuinely honest" in describing Herr Shrubster???
I've got some ocean front property in Louisiana I am looking to sell...
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:04 PM
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114. {cough}bullshit con job{cough} {cough} |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:31 PM
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104. You're kidding, right? |
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Either Karl Rove hasn't recovered from his surgery, or this is his latest move to get people to like Bush again.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:41 PM
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105. Criminy, two weeks later he apologized for the govt. |
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This means that his reforms failed and it is time for more reforms at taxpayers expense of course. It was a piss poor apology. I thought we had federal bureaucracy problems in 2001. Now we still suffer. He needs to apologize for the last 4 years of nothingness.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:45 PM
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106. Fake pResident, fake tears, fake turkey, fake ranch, fake apology... |
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Everything about * and his administration is FAKE. (Except the war profiteering, the torture, and neglect of the less fortunate.)
"Clear Skies Initiative" = gross pollution OK by big industry; "No Child Left Behind" = lots of children utterly ignored; "Patriot Act" = okay for government to spy on its citizens; "Social Security Personal Accounts" = big bucks for brokerage houses.
On and on it goes. * tries to walk and talk like some plain-folks cowpoke, but the fact is he's from a New England family and he's terrified of horses.
I guarantee anyone that *'s "honesty" and "taking responsibility" for the Katrina disaster is as calculated and as fake as everything else he does. :grr:
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:47 PM
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107. agree completely, except he didn't apologize. |
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just lied about taking responsiblity.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:53 PM
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108. That's a JOKE , right? |
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He has an ace up his arrogant sleeve, you can count on it;... this has Rowe written all over it.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:54 PM
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109. Please. A big man? More like "big lying sack of shit imbecile f**kface!" |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:58 PM
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you commend him for being honest (which is arguable) once?
lol
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:58 PM
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111. Read His Full Statement; Don't go by what you "heard". |
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"Weasel words/phrases" are highlighted for your convenience.
"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government," Mr. Bush said. "And to the extent that the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility.
"I want to know what went right and what went wrong," Mr. Bush added. "I want to know how to better cooperate with state and local government, to be able to answer that very question that you asked: Are we capable of dealing with a severe attack or another severe storm?"
Take OUT the weaseling, and you'd have a powerful statement: "Katrina exposed serious problems in our government," Mr. Bush said. "And I take responsibility."
Put all the weasel words back in...and you've got Rovian bullshit, carefully crafted to give the IMPRESSION of taking responsibility while providing significant room to wriggle out from under that statement later on.
Honesty is nowhere to be found here...just spin.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:00 PM
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112. Since liars are always rewarded by this administration, |
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it was no prob for asshat to stand up and tell a bald faced one on national TV..he has been doing that for YEARS..old hat to him
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:08 PM
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115. This makes me really sad. |
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Is this a foreshadow of the fact that not only will most of the repubs fall for this but also half the dems?
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Tue Sep-13-05 07:42 PM
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121. I'm hoping that "half the dems" have pulled their collective heads |
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out of their collective asses by now. As for the rethugs, you know they are falling for it.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:10 PM
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116. "Thank you, Mr. Crocodile, for your tears." n/t |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:12 PM
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117. You're a good man, Charlie Brown. Bush is not. |
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Don't fall for this. Don't try and kick that football.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:13 PM
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when asked "can you think of any mistakes you've made" couldn't think of any. The fuckers not taking the blame for anything.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:36 PM
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119. Silly Peanut. You're so funny. |
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Did you forget the sarcasm smilie or do you really believe what you wrote?
This little man would no sooner admit to a mistake than actually send help to someone who's drowning.
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He will burn in hell with the other heartless murderers of the world
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Tue Sep-13-05 07:59 PM
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PR 101 stuff! Their PR team is earning their dollars this week.
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Tue Sep-13-05 08:07 PM
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124. Now, that has to be the funniest thread I've ever read here on DU! |
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shrub accepting full responsibility for the failure his federal government is... too funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's so funny, I'll even make you a little smilie mosaic!
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Tue Sep-13-05 08:15 PM
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125. It's called damage control - and a poor atempt at that. |
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He came away from counting his oil money to lie once again.
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Tue Sep-13-05 08:46 PM
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126. "Doesn't work for me, I gotta have more cowbell!" |
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128. More cowbell won't even work here. |
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127. Not that simple... just hold your horses before you go commending a |
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bushitler... there's definitely sneaky slimmy motive lurking about behind this mercy plea and humble pie.
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Tue Sep-13-05 09:06 PM
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129. Accepting responsibility=resigning????? hello |
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He only admitted his mistakes, when the media started to do their job, then he tried to push most the blame on other sectors of the government, if he was a big man, he would of resigned and taken full responsibility.
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Tue Sep-13-05 09:30 PM
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131. Give me a break..he is doing this only because his poll numbers are |
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lower than whale shit and he doesn't want an independent investigation.
Everyone continue writing your congressman to DEMAND a full nonpartisan investigation as to why Bush partied,went to a fund raiser and a hootenanny and why FEMA actually worked AGAINST saving people while New Orleans drowned.
We want accountability, not just apologies so that this will never happen in our country again.
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Tue Sep-13-05 09:31 PM
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132. I really love the dysfunctional family analogies on the radio these |
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days. The husband who will beat his wife then one day bring home flowers and she thinks everything has changed. "Oh God! You're wonderful!!"
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Tue Sep-13-05 09:51 PM
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133. Ok, I'm not going to pile on... |
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*cough* *sputter*
Bhahahahaha!
Ok, ok. Charlie, you have to ask yourself, as much as you may want to see some sincerity and acceptance of responsibility from this man, what in the past 5 years has given you any reason to believe he is capable of either? Mouthing words written for him by Rove, who calculated the "necessity" of a fake "I take responsibility" statement because the poll numbers are sinking and the media is all over this clueless idiot's ass isn't anything other than exactly what it appears to be: Bullshit.
First they tried to repress any criticism ("blame game"), no go.
Then they tried to blame the local Democrats, eh... not enough.
So now they are trying a very, very distant acceptance of "responsibility", one that is so broad (the entire federal government??) that it gives plenty of room to continue to pass the buck to someone other than himself.
This is like apologizing for your country being such a mess to others. It's not really accepting personal blame, just admitting that it is seriously fucked up.
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Tue Sep-13-05 10:10 PM
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134. Agree -- I had Bush all wrong |
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I sincerely believe he'll take full responsibility for the Iraq war, and demand that the death penalty be carried out on himself for war crimes to salvage the honor of his family. If this is impossible, he'll perform hari-kari or self-immolate, and will go down in history as a despicable self-serving tyrant who nonetheless was responsible enough to deal satisfactorily with his own shortcomings.
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Tue Sep-13-05 10:11 PM
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135. Give Me ACTIONS not WORDS |
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because actions speak for themselves.
politics as usual....too little too late....CYA.....no one likes junior...wah wah wah..
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