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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:43 AM
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Bush taking responsibility is Rove's idea....
With polls dropping daily, even with the trips to New Orleans, they had to do something. Rove has advised Bush that soemtimes the American people respect people who admit their mistakes. Americans are a forgivng people by nature. They don't have any more cards to play. The President is a man of character and he accepts responsibility because the buck stops with him. Rove has informed him that this will bring up his polls or at least, stop the freefall.
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:46 AM
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1. Where did you hear this
I absolutely don't believe Bush will accept responsibility. I don't think he'll follow Rove's orders on this one. He's never accepted responsibility for anything in his life.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:47 AM
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2. Exactly......wlll the media eat it up or see it for what it is.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:48 AM
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3. I dunno, I think Karen Hughes on this one...
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:48 AM by Angry Girl
Not that it matters. We still have a puppet-king and madmen puppeteers....

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:50 AM
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7. MAYBE...but...Rove would have to sign off on something like this.
Karen Hughes could not make something like this happen without Rove's consent.

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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:52 AM
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10. Yes, definitely, but
hopefully Rove is still writhing on the floor, in horrible pain from the biggest kidney stones in history.

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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:48 AM
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4. It seemed obvious to me
but I thought, right away, by the Friday after KAtrina, when he first shoed up in NO, that he should have apologized for the delay, take responsibility, and basically sweep it under the rug, or at least stymie the horrible press.

But I suppose that's too obvious and, dare I say, too responsible. And I also forgot that they've never taken responsibility for anything ever...
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:49 AM
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5. Rove's thinking: It makes Bush appear to be a "leader"...
...because "leaders" accept "responsibility," which is ludicrous thinking because there's never been a time in Bush's life in which he has "accepted responsibility."

Once again, Rove is bargaining on the American people being too stupid to know that.

Some ARE that stupid.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:51 AM
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9. Exactly !
Everything...everything is done with political motivation aforethought.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:49 AM
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6. If it wasn't Rove's idea...
the White House staffers are changing their underwear right now.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:50 AM
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8. This is meaningless. He said he would take responsibility for the lies
in his state of the union address. He just shitting words.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:54 AM
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11. rove's or hughes' idea, guarantee you it was not *'s. He's never taken
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 11:55 AM by Raster
responsibility for anything in his life. This is a p.r. ploy, plain and simple. This is a last ditch effort to lift ratings out of the toilet and head off a full congressional investigation. No way does bushco* want a bi-partisan committee to investigate Katrina. No way. bushco* knows it goes FAR BEYOND incompetence and well into the realm of criminal. This is a calculated position in order to save bushco*'s bacon.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:55 AM
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12. Fine - then what's next? How does he make it right?
"I'm sorry" is just a beginning not an end. This may be Rove and W's fatal mistake because they can't follow through. Another American trait is to have expectations of leadership.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:59 AM
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14. Their whole divide and conquer theory on politics...
If they can get close to 50% support in the polls, then they will use division to create a stalemate politically, which they are very adept at.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:06 PM
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16. That's very true
But their side is shrinking. The "middle" that they attracted is peeling away now that he's all but admitted he can't keep us safe. So he may get a short term boost in the polls only to watch it sink again because they can never follow through and be true to their base.
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:58 AM
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13. it's going to be a heartfelt speech to the people
The problem is that outside of his brainwashed base, I don't think he has the credibility to pull it off.

of course, one can never underestimate the stupidity of the american public.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 11:59 AM
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15. Wait, wait, wait So he takes responsibility. What does that mean????
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 12:01 PM by wake.up.america
How about a big, "I had my head up my rear end or I really don't give a darn."

"Gee, I'm so sorry. I've got the war in Iraq going on, defending your freedom, I am trying to pull down the price of gas, I'm doing, this and that. You know, I have people assigned to do certain jobs and sometimes they are overwhelmed. It is not that they are not trying."

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SiouxJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 12:15 PM
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17. At this point he's got nothing to lose by doing this
and he's worried about his legacy. He was going down as "George W. Pass-The-Buck Bush" and I think they finally realized it. Ok, so now take responsibility for getting us into Iraq for no good reason and not having a plan to get out.
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