CNN finally admitting Bush is failing miserably in the polls

[Atman]

Maybe they got some heat yesterday.

Kyra Phillips (Pelosi slap-down) and the old man Bill "AEI" Schneider are discussing the polls. Kyra is trying to defend Bush, but can't. Schneider shows an ABC poll which asks "for the first time," according to Bill, not just whether Americans approve of Bush, but how strongly they approve/disapprove.

Get this...42% STRONGLY DISAPPROVE and 13% DISAPPROVE. 55% Disapproval of Bush. Only 22% Strongly approve of Bush's performance as president.

After yesterday's bogus Gallup poll got universally laughed at, maybe they're atoning. Schneider even showed a list of several current polls, including the fake Gallup one with 48% approval (the highest). Even the aggregated polls worked out to an average approval of only 42% for Chimpy.

I guess I am actually more surprised that CNN would discuss this than I am with the actual numbers. But I'm also curious about how harsh Schneider was. He is American Enterprise Institute, and they tell BushCo what to do, in many cases. They are their top conservative think tank. So, if the conservatives are starting to throttle Bush like this in public, hey...good things can happen.

(edited for typos and clarity).

[texpatriot2004]

1. Nixon was at 24% at impeachment, right?

[Initech]

11. What was Clinton's approval rating during impeachment?

[maine_raptor]

12. Somewhere around 60% +

[Rainscents]

16. He was at 68% approval rating during impeachment!!!

[Initech]

37. Clinton - 68% and Bush 22%

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa???? :wow:

So a president who's doing a really shitty job in office gets "elected" to two terms but a president who's doing a good job gets impeached?

*head spontaenously combusts*

[AtomicKitten]

2. Doh!

[BattyDem]

3. Who the fuck are those 22% that strongly approve?!?!?

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Mutley]

8. The one's who've had way too much kool-aid over the last 5 years...

and will never ever come back to us. Bush could get married to a man, give his own daughter an abortion, and praise Saddam up, down left and right and these 22% would still love him for it.

[Atman]

15. The woman Ed Helms interviewed on TDS last night

In the red dress, scraggly gray hair...SHE is part of the 22% who would never, ever abandon Bush.

And as Helms said, "this must be a museum, because it's too f(bleep)ing scary to be real." Or something to the effect.

[chicagiana]

24. Ed was playing games on this one ...

The Scopes monkey trial was a big setup. Indeed, it WAS a tourist attraction from the very get go.

No doubt that this woman WAS delusional and among the 22%. But the "whoopin" they put on Scopes was a $1 fine. And the trial was thrown INTENTIONALLY so they could appeal it and strike down anti-evolution laws across the nation.

The town didn't "whoop" evolution. The town MADE evolution legal.

[cascadiance]

10. They've already been "body snatched"!

[back2basics909]

20. Somebody called them...

.. "baby eaters" meaning even if B*sh got caught eating a baby they would still approve. At this stage you have to think they are clinically retarded.

[chicagiana]

22. Nothing you could do about that ...

Bush could eat a live baby while anally raping a black grandmother on live TV and these 22% would STILL approve of his performance.

However, if he eviscerated a living fetus from a brain-dead woman, he might loose support among say 7% of these fruit-loops.

[Reciprocity]

23. Religious nut cases, following the anti christ.

[Spangle]

28. Those that get their education from Rush & Pasters

THey don't think.. they repeat what they hear.

They will not change their minds.. cause GOD, through their Pasters/Preachers mouth told them that Bush is "his man." He is don't God's work.

The rest get their info from Rush. An entertainer.

[The Backlash Cometh]

29. They're the same ones who impeached Clinton.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. the true believers

[kstewart33]

33. Let us be frank.

There is a contingent of people who, if Bush were caught in a bathroom with a young man, they wouldn't budge in their support.
I'd bet the 22% represents that group.

[phylny]

40. My inlaws.

:eyes:

[PurgedVoter]

41. Inverted Narcissists

Inverted Narcissist definition from
http://www.geocities.com/vaksam/faq66.html

Also called "covert narcissist", this is a co-dependent who depends exclusively on narcissists (narcissist-co-dependent). If you are living with a narcissist, have a relationship with one, if you are married to one, if you are working with a narcissist, etc. – it does NOT mean that you are an inverted narcissist.

To "qualify" as an inverted narcissist, you must CRAVE to be in a relationship with a narcissist, regardless of any abuse inflicted on you by him/her. You must ACTIVELY seek relationships with narcissists and ONLY with narcissists, no matter what your (bitter and traumatic) past experience has been. You must feel EMPTY and UNHAPPY in relationships with ANY OTHER kind of person. Only then, and if you satisfy the other diagnostic criteria of a Dependent Personality Disorder, can you be safely labelled an "inverted narcissist".

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. 22%!!!!!!!!!!! HOLY SHIT! It's even LOWER than yesterday! (28%)

:bounce::bounce::bounce::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Man, how sweet is that? It's a little unnerving though. I expect another disaster (man-made) to bring those numbers up. :scared:

[leftofthedial]

5. AEI are distancing themselves from the miserable failure

rats deserting a sinking ship

[Nikki Stone 1]

9. Really?

More on this

[frictionlessO]

6. I thought AEI was a Libertarian think tank??

Kinda neat that they're rehashing the numbers so well though.

[DURHAM D]

13. Libertarian ?

Senior Fellows and other members - Dick Cheney, Lynn Cheney, Richard Pearl, Newt, David Frum, etc. etc. etc.

Hatemongers.

[frictionlessO]

35. Thank you and Im sorry....

Having a very hard day today keeping my thoughts straight today. Oh and I know what tricked my mind into thinking that!! The AEI dork that Bill Mahers guest Friday said he was a Libertarian! What bullshit!!

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand! He was also distancing himself from Bush saying he thought he screwed this up as well when Bill cornered him on it.

Ok.. phew! Thought I had lost my itty bitty little mind there for a moment.

[Downtown Hound]

18. I think you're thinking of the Cato Institute

I'm pretty sure AEI is Republican, although it's hard to say for sure because they don't say so on their website.

[Frederik]

27. Neo-conservative

The neo-con movement has pretty much been created by the AEI.

[frictionlessO]

38. Thanks for the reminder! see post 35 above.

I have my head back now, sorry for the slip!

[frictionlessO]

36. re post 35...

you are right... it was CATO I was thinking of.

[ewagner]

7. Skeptical

that CNN will ever actually "turn" on Bush*. There are a couple of possibilities:

1. They see Bush as a lame duck and can generate higher ratings by bashing him than by supporting him.

or

2. They need to tear him down and then build him back up so the story line will be "amazing comeback" which will generate higher ratings.

AEI must see Bush in his current low-numbers state as a liability. They would never let Schneider report anything negative unless Dubya is hurting their agenda.

[cliss]

31. Just one problem:

(and I know this is just temporary, but definitely fun).

Karl Rove is in the hospital. He has apparently been immobilized by kidney stones.

Bush is apparently on his own for a while, and I will be interested to see if his demeanor changes significantly while "puppetteer" is out of commission.

[political_invader]

14. I'm interested in what Sheep Blitzer has to say..

knowing that he is a supporter of the BFEE.

Watch now what the spin doctor Rove does. (IMO) The only reason they are admitting they screwed up is because the polls are dropping, so now they side with the majority to show compassion. Do you really think that Bush believes what he has done is wrong? I don't!

However you are correct good things can happen. We all need to keep up the fight and really begin to turn up the flame.

Peace from a BLUE STATE !

[chicagiana]

26. What is amazing to me ..

What is amazing to me is seeing the human response in people as things happen. And THEN, the stories change, the memos circulate, Kool-Aid is distributed and people are brought back into line.

Personally I wonder if the BFEE uses threats or bribes to accomplish all this.

[Bumblebee]

17. It was 46%, not 48% but it's interesting that pollingreport.com

is not even bothering to include it! see:

http://pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm

[Rainscents]

19. Burn baby Burn... People are really waking up!!!!!!!!

[chicagiana]

21. They had to have SERIOUS poll fixing ...

Bush was in the low 40s, high 30s BEFORE the Katrina disaster. There seems to have been a poll blackout, THEN all these polls with weird questions.

I listened to a guest on Rush Limbaugh talking about what the polls meant, but not what the poll numbers WERE. And I knew they HAD to be in trouble.

The president is having historically unprecedented disapproval ratings and the pollsters are eating their numbers because they are just SO OUTSIDE ANYTHING they have seen before. Johnson was more popular.

[mrdmk]

34. The Bush Jr. Administration has not had to deal with this since the

start of this Presidency (hovering around 50% approval =/- 5%). With Karl Rove on vicodin after an attack of Kidney Stones and basically out of commission the numbers will drop further, you can count on it!

The true colors of this administration are showing up. Do not get disturbed if you see on TV a supporter sticking up for Mr. Bush Jr. and everyone agreeing with him/her. The Air Wave Media has been covering for Bush Jr. starting in college.

[lancdem]

25. If you discount the CNN poll, which so far appears to be an outlier,

every other recent poll has him between 38 and 42 percent.

[freemen2005]

32. we all know the polls are BS

seriously, who are they polling?

[Poiuyt]

39. They just had the Gallop guy on CNN Headline News

I didn't write down the numbers, but they showed a strong improvement for Bush this week over last. I think they had him at about 56% approval for how he's handling Katrina.

Right.