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Tue Sep-13-05 12:56 PM
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Out on a Limb - Prediction - Bush Resigns.... |
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Something has tweaked my internal processing unit.
Bush for the first time in his Presidency admits failure.
Brownie resigned.
Plame still lurking.
06' and 08' Elections looming.
The GOP is in a tight pickle. They invested heavily in BushCo. and that investment has turned sour just as the debacle of Iraq has become. Tax cuts, pandering, WMDS, Global Warming...all have piled into the public's brain along with the images of dogs feeding on corpses, not just in the streets of Fahlluja but in New Orleans as well. It is too much. Scenes of guitar strumming Bush split with the ravaging Katrina have tipped people too far.
All in all a very bad situation for Bush. I think it is the worse one I have seen since in any modern Presidency even worse than Nixon.
Certainly this is more grave (pardon the pun) than oral sex.
The Rove spin machine has collapsed, that dog don't hunt anymore... Cheney is leaving Jr. to spin. He has been remarkably under the radar in recent weeks.
So I'm jumping on the Bush is quitting bandwagon for the next few days.
Plame case probably has the good on his administration anyway and if Bush was going to "cut and run" now would be the best time, under the cover of Katrina. Because what will be in store for him in the coming months will be much worse...his presidency is emasculated, criminal and the party will be abandoning him. In a way...the people are giving him a vote of "no-confidence".
The powers that be are telling him to prepare to step down or be villified by his own party. They still have an agenda and one lone dumbass Texan is not going to stop it. Thanks to his mismanagement they dropped the ball on their own agenda. Tax cuts are not going to made permanent now. Support for the war is not growing. Terrorism fear was swept away with the waters of Lake Ponchatrane and replaced by anger and disgust. Disgust that a administration could be so blatantly incompetent.
Bush stepping down will be a victory for not only progressives but it will also be one for the GOP. They need to rest the control of the party back from the extreme elements if they hope to hold onto power.
The candy shop is empty now, the conservatives have scarfed everything but for the hated circus peanuts, and I don't think they have the stomach for those.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:58 PM
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1. Not In A Million Billion Years, Never Happen, Nope, No Way No How |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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2. Just like Bob Taft will never resign |
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neither will GW "Asshat" Bush
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:10 PM
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19. More likely an accident of some sort |
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will make it impossible for him to continue to serve.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:13 PM
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His only apology in 5 years...probably in his entire life. Probably not even sincere, given his Trent Lott Porch comment (didn't apologize for that.. or for his Mother's under privileged comment)
Resigning would be admitting he was wrong, his ego is far to large to admit that truth.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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3. Boy you are out on a limb & the wind is blowing. |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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4. Maybe he watched Bill Maher's |
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"New Rules" last week. "This can't be fun anymore, just walk away".
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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5. Your analysis is thought-provoking |
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but I just can't see Bush ever resigning. He's too self-centered and would rather take his party down with him.
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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6. Respectfully, your "internal processing unit" is going... |
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Tue Sep-13-05 12:59 PM
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7. Great idea, but this man would rather hold on to power |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:01 PM by SammyBlue
As the party crashes and burns around him (along with the country), defiantly saying he is in charge, than accept total defeat and walk away.
This man has no soul, no honor and no moral/ethical restraints. . .he's an amoral, callous sociopath.
I don't see him resigning, but the damage to him has been done and it's mostly irrepairable.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:00 PM
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10. Yeah, I agree with you Sammy |
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He'll never let go of power
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:00 PM
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Why? Why would Bush resign? He doesn't have to worry about reelection, he still has GOP majorities in both Houses, and he's got another SCOTUS nomination to put through. Bush is going nowhere. The only way I'll start changing my mind about the possibility is if large numbers of GOP congressmen start calling for his head -- which, of course, hasn't happened. And, IMHO, it won't.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:00 PM
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Bush is not gonna quit the bandwagon ever. The "accepting responsibility" bullshit is to make his ratings go up. He's desperate. I just hope people don't buy his bullshit.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:01 PM
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11. Don't see it happening |
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Still one more vacancy on The Court to fill, maybe others.
Still several budgets to create and be able to hand out goodies (taxpayer dollars) to cronies and supporters.
Still more Consitutional right to revoke.
Still more countries to invade.
Still 3+ years to do it all.
Sorry, don't think it will happen.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:02 PM
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12. Who would be president? eom |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:04 PM
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13. Man, what have you been smoking?? |
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Never in a million years will he quit. Even if he wanted to, they would never let him. Do you understand what these people have riding on this? World domination. They are not going to give up everything they have worked for. They would "get rid of him" and let Cheney take over if he even hinted at quitting.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:05 PM
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:05 PM
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15. Think Chuck Heston: "You'll have to pry this Presdiency from my cold..." |
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It'll never happen... The only way he'll resign is if they leak info that Fitzy is going for the jugular, and even then, I'd be surprised to see him leave until people are standing DAILY in front of the White House, screaming at him...
And I doubt Fitzy is going after *. He's after Rove n pals...
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:05 PM
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. . . I could see * resigning would be if he were given a quite or die ultimatum from the powers that be. He was elected in a '00 year afterall.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:06 PM
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17. To quote 41, Not prudent at this juncture, not gonna doit. |
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It'd take a lot more than this to get * to resign.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:08 PM
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18. Surely this would take a man of honour? (nt) |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:12 PM
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20. You're kidding, right? His arrogance would never |
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allow him to resign! NEVER, EVER, EVER will that piece of shit resign. I WISH!
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:16 PM
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22. the pressure for this scenario to happen is building |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:16 PM by nadinbrzezinski
but the true question is... has bush come down to earth enough to realize it?
From all reports, starting in CHB, no... he is not a rational man
If he does it, you can count on the powers that be removing him... and I have no doubt if they need to do it, they will invoke the 25th amendment
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:17 PM
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23. a leech never detaches from its prey until it is full |
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and Bush is far from done feeding off of the nation.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:17 PM
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24. No way....and they havent failed |
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atleast from the perspective of a brood of oil/blood thirsty racist greedy monsters. In fact I think they are right on track. It's all theatre and these actors are good!
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:19 PM
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25. Idiot son won't resign. |
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He'll just keep a paddlin' away into total oblivion.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:33 PM
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We keep thinking that on some level he might give a damn about what we see/think.
he don't.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:23 PM
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26. Bush resigning would be a great show of weakness for the GOP. |
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They would be better to simply distance themselves from him in the coming years, if he doesn't recover. He's a lame duck in a year anyway. Bush resigning now, however, would look horrible for the GOP. No way, no how - he's not resigning.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:32 PM
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28. What's worse....political martyrdom or criminal |
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Katrina or Plame...?
Take your pick.
Resigning because you are a criminal has no honor.
Resigning because you fucked up nad killed thousands of people and begging for forgivness does.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:56 PM
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41. I'm having the same feelings |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 02:01 PM by Habibi
much as I'm also laughing at myself for them.
What's the address to the nation tonight all about?
If there are indictments, we get to see/listen to hours of hearings a la Iran/Contra, which would further blacken the name of GOP. Harder for them to recover from, than Bush admitting incompetence and stepping down. Then, maybe he can also be blamed for the Plame affair, and voila! the GOP is "cleansed."
Edit: Sorry, I guess the address is Thursday.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:28 PM
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Like I said I'm only taking this trip for a few days....
It's kinda fun...
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:32 PM
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Chimpy's modus operandi throughout his "working" life has been to fuck things up then quit, so it would be consistent with past performances. As far as the neocon cabal goes, Cheney steps up and they lose nothing but an embarrassing buffoon with an abysmal approval rating. It seems to make sense.
I don't think it will happen, but I think the republicans, and especially the RW'ers, would have a lot to gain by making Dubya the fall guy.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:35 PM
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31. And do you think that we will be better with Cheney? (nt) |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:56 PM
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42. Of course not. But it isn't about what WE think is better. |
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It is all about what PNAC needs and wants in order to complete their agenda. At this point, Bush is a liablity, and threatens to ruin their entire plan.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:36 PM
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:37 PM
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33. from your keyboard to God's computer screen |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:44 PM
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34. I think a lot of what happens will depend on the Fitzgerald findings... |
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What that investigation reveals will exert tremendous influence on what Chimpy and the GOP does in the near (and not so near) future.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:47 PM
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That is the key...
Katrina was an most unfortunte event for BushCo. Plame will now be much harder to cope with on top of the realization by the vast majority of America that Bush is indeed incapable of protecting America.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:47 PM
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35. Would be nice, wouldn't it? |
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The ONLY way that would be possible is if the GOP is dumping Chimpy to try and save face for next year and 2008. But that's a real stretch.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:48 PM
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37. They'll give him a big shot of Jeebus and send him back in |
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TD Jakes will fortify him with the word of the Lord. The Rapture watchers will reassure him that it is hard work preparing the way for the return of the Christ, and no matter if he is personally vilified - he is complying with the will of God.
Bush hates. He hates so much. The religious right showed him how to channel that hate, and once they get him back on track, he'll be good to go.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:51 PM
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38. When Hell freezes over.......... |
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wait.............:scared: never mind.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:52 PM
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:53 PM by info being
He is a miserable failure not just to us, but to his backers. He has to resign.
The problem is, we'll probably get someone more competent and also more evil.
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM
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40. LOL! How does it feel to be pummeled? |
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Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 01:55 PM by Atman
I already did this one, dude! But I concur with almost all of it, if not necessarily the "details." It COULD happen. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4757074&mesg_id=4757074It really could. Or, he could be "suicided" by the CIA, he's so distraught. But one way or another, he has fucked up PNAC's agenda. And PNAC's agenda is much bigger than some silver-spoon frat boy!
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:57 PM
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"pelted with rocks and garbage" |
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Tue Sep-13-05 01:57 PM
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43. Maybe, but they haven't yet paid the debt to |
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their big oil investors...Iraq isn't under their umbrella yet..Or maybe, it is their investors that might demand his stepping down to put Cheney in power...Remeber, it is the oooiilll!
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