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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:29 PM
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Poll question: Does it matter if Bush resigns?
The board has had some farfetched notion of hope that Our Fearless Leader would resign. However, the prospect of a Dick(head) Cheney administration seems even scarier to me; so the question is does it matter?
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:32 PM
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1. Can you say
mid=term elections?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:36 PM
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7. Right now, It is the only chance the repukes have of maintaining control
of the House and/or Senate.
I think they are dead in one or both houses in the mid-terms if bu$h is still in office and still fucking things up.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:33 PM
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2. All the NeoCon's agenda needs to be revealed as fatally flawed
and destructive to freedom and REPUDIATED
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Lecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:35 PM
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6. Exactly
Bush will be gone in 08' but the neocons won't...
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:34 PM
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3. OH dear GOD
I think everyone posting about resignation should resign from DU, effective yesterday please.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:34 PM
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4. self-delete
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 07:37 PM by ohio_liberal
Apparently I've lost my brain somewhere.

:think:
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:35 PM
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5. I've said it before: Undoubtedly yes.
A resigned/impeached Chimp would become a cinderblock around the neck of the wingnuts, even if Cheney took over. They've invested way too much in their cult of Dear Leader. The GOP would be retreating under fire all the way to 2008.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:38 PM
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8. does it matter if monkeys fly out of my butt?
yes..
no...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:39 PM
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9. I think yes.
So much of *s support in Freeperland seems to be Cult of Personality stuff. They put all their faith in a 'godly' man who failed them miserably. Cheney doesn't have any of the 'chosen one' aspect to him, and so will have none of the teflon shielding that * enjoyed for most of his tenure. When he fucks up, he and his agenda will be exposed and vulnerable.

Without *s protection, Cheney will go down, too. There are too many things stacked against him with his connection with Halliburton, defense department contracts, etc., for him to escape. When he goes down, the whole neo-con cabal will go down as well.

There will, of course, be any number who will continue to venerate *, just as Nixon was venerated for being 'driven from office by the liberals'. But if we keep the pressure on, follow through on legal prosecution of all the culpable actors in this tragedy, we can maybe forestall their return in a later administration.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:42 PM
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:42 PM
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11. Too much has been put into motion
Now, they won't quit, even if W does. The next step would be that Cheney would assume the presidency, and then Rove will likely step in as VP. After that, Cheney will somehow have a fatal heart attack, and Rove will be in charge finally. Everyone else will follow Rove's lead. The only person who doesn't quite fit into the scene is Grover Norquist. He's definitely going to be the second in command in my opinion, but I think it will be largely like a position that Rove has been in since 2000.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:44 PM
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12. Yes, because
it will show that even those who support him think he is a failure. He would only resign if he was pressured to do so.

I can't imagine a more unlikable candidate for the Repugs to put up than Cheney. If the Dems can't beat Cheney, then they don't deserve to win.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:47 PM
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13. Uh. does anyone really believe that P.O.S will resign?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:48 PM
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14. Dick Cheney's natural lifespan is finite
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 07:50 PM by wuushew
how many people do you know that live to ripe old age with repeat serious heart attacks and heart surgeries? Barring use of The One Ring or the teachings of Darth Plagious, President Dick Cheney may very well be dead by 2008.

RAY SUAREZ: GOP Vice Presidential Candidate Dick Cheney checked himself into George Washington University hospital this morning in Washington, DC, complaining of chest and shoulder pains. Cheney has a history of heart problems. He suffered the first of three heart attacks in 1978 at age 37. Cheney underwent quadruple bypass surgery in 1988 and had reported no problems since. This morning doctors said Cheney had not suffered a heart attack, but took some precautionary procedures.

DR. ALAN WASSERMAN: A decision was made to perform a cardiac catheterization. The results of the catheterization showed an increased narrowing in a side branch artery, specifically the diagonal branch of the left anterior descending artery. The rest of his coronary anatomy is completely unchanged from the previous study, performed in 1996. A decision was made to place a coronary stent in that area that showed some additional narrowing. After placement of the stent, the artery now appears normal. Mr. Cheney has returned to his hospital room and is doing well.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec00/heart_11-22.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:53 PM
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15. It's the agenda, people, not the person. Doesn't matter at all.
PNAC will carry on...
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:30 PM
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18. Exactly right! If Bush goes, Cheney takes over...
...if Cheney goes, then Hastert takes over, and so on.

Nothing changes...except who'd then be in position to run in 2008 as the incumbent.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:13 PM
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16. yes.
the admin will lose some of the support of dubya's religious fanatic base. cheney can't suck up to the fundies like shrub and cheney has zip charisma. bush may be just a figurehead but he is important for keeping the fundie vote.

ellen fl
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:16 PM
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17. No, the damage is done. He has accomplished all that "they" needed
him to do. It's end game and the only way to stop it is for a complete turn around in the gov. Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
:nuke:
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:32 PM
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19. He won't, so why even go there? nt
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