WHY IS CHINA ALLOWED TO CONTINUESLY FUCK THE US...

[Tight_rope]

WITH NO RESULTS OF AN ORGASM'S AND BUSH KEEPS BENDING OVER FOR MORE.:rant:

Fair Trades = China can sell all its products in the US...but the US can't tell most of it's products there and the items that the US can sell doesn't really sale because of pirotisum. :spank:

[napi21]

1. Because they OWN ALL OUR DEBT!

Well, maybe not ALL, but a great big chuck!!!

[jrthin]

8. Yep. nt

[papau]

9. Very True - those low interest rate come via China accepting a low

rate as it recycles the US trade deficit. Thus we have low mortgage rates.

No way Bush is going to end the one thing holding up "the economy".

[Iris]

12. Hey! That's what I was gonna say!

Except for the "big chuck" part! hee! hee! ;-)

[applegrove]

2. Because they are doing the manufacturing and taken on the oil burden

of that. And they also hold U.S. dollars and treasury bills at a discount - allowing for greater debt in the U.S.A. This allows the Bush WH to go into debt and not pay for things like war while giving their possie tax cuts and the like.

[Greeby]

3. Simple

No-one fucks with China. They have an economic red button that, when they decide to push it, will bring down America without a shot being fired

[BayCityProgressive]

7. China has

strategically placed itself in a POWERFUL position. not only does it have a lot of sway with other countries economies..it has used our money to cut poverty in China and ally itself more and more with up aqnd coming third world countries. Communist China will be a superpower if ti isn't already..and I have to strongly disagree with some here. China is still communist...communism will not always look the same..the comm. manifesto was written in the 1800's China, Cuba, North Korea, laos, and Vietnam are merely new takes on it.

[benburch]

4. The Bush family is in their pay. nt

[nankerphelge]

5. We're in decline...

They're on the rise. Tell your kids to take Chinese in college.

[expatriate]

6. Because China OWNS the US

Should they ever call in the debt, get your begging bowl out. They could economically destroy the US in no time.

[sniffa]

10. hey! china stiLL cooL

you pay Later.

[me b zola]

11. If my memory serves me correctly

It was Poopy bush who opened up trade with China back in the 70's.

Don't forget all of the US corporatist who have left the American blue-collar worker for cheap labor elsewhere. Don't worry, though. The neo-cons union busting and policies are bringing the working conditions down to soon we will be on the same level as the Chinese work conditions. Once their mission is complete, maybe they will bring back the jobs, with slave labor wages, and then the trade will even out.:evilfrown:

[BayCityProgressive]

13. interesting developement

regarding wages in China. The national union federation has unionized all of the walmarts in the country after wlmart received an ultimatum fromt he gov. Their wages have doubled.yet we can't unionize here?

[me b zola]

34. Hubby's union contract is up in a year and a half

We fully expect that he will be making half of the pay when it comes time for the new contract.

Everyone wants to say that we are going back to the 1950's. I say bullshit. We are definitely headed very quickly back to the 1870's when the labor movement was first born.

I would so like to believe that we are in an awakening, but I just don't see it. :scared:






edited because I forgot to check for spelling :D

[Deja Q]

20. I thought Nixon did that, opening China's door.

:shrug:

[Zynx]

21. And thus Nixon's one "positive" achievement is actually negative.

[me b zola]

23. It is my understanding that poppy was working under Nixon

and poppy is said to have been the one to open the doors.

Let me give it a whirl on google. I'll be back, I hope sooner rather than later ;)

[me b zola]

35. Poppy worked for Nixon

"...he was appointed to a series of high-level positions: Ambassador to the United Nations, Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Chief of the U. S. Liaison Office in the People's Republic of China, and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html



I'm not a good researcher, but I found this little something that at least puts the smell out there:

In 1974, President Nixon named George H.W. Bush as his ambassador to China, a position he held for two years. In the 1980s, George H.W. Bush's brother, Prescott Bush Jr., began pursuing business opportunities on the mainland. In 1988, he teamed up with Japanese businessmen to build China's first golf course in Shanghai. He struck up a long friendship with former President Jiang, whose son is now a business partner of Neil Bush.

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=9231

Of course this is not the article that explains how poppy opened up trade with China, but it gives a wiff of what was going on.

[area51]

24. "...{Bush Sr.} opened up trade with China back in the 70's."

Wasn't that Nixon?

[me b zola]

31. These are the positions that he held under Nixon

"...he was appointed to a series of high-level positions: Ambassador to the United Nations, Chairman of the Republican National Committee, Chief of the U. S. Liaison Office in the People's Republic of China, and Director of the Central Intelligence Agency."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/gb41.html

I'm sure there are better links that speak to his involvement in China, and how that complimented his corporate portfolio. I'm not a great researcher, and I am going mostly off of memory :D

[bicentennial_baby]

14. if you insist on using all caps, please

spell the words correctly, please!

[BringEmOn]

15. It won't be long before Chinese workers are complaining

about their jobs being outsourced to U.S. slave labor camps.

[theshadow]

16. Didn't Rush and the boys always accuse Clinton....

.... of making treasonous deals with the Chinese?

[Child_Of_Isis]

22. Yet the republicans don't seem to mind

that "commies" hold the mortgage to our country. Yet, they hate the commies so. Oh, the irony. I think most republicans are too stupid to even realize the irony.

[RepublicanElephant]

17. to paraphrase randi rhodes...

hyman roth (china) always made money for his partners (corporate america).

[cosmicdot]

18. wonder what Uncle Prescott has to say?

~snip~

"Bush's approach centers on promoting U.S.-China economic ties. That's a course favored not only by his father, the first President Bush, but also by his uncle, Prescott Bush Jr., a longtime acquaintance of Chinese President Jiang Zemin.

"The Bush family's ties to China go back to 1974, when President Nixon named George Bush ambassador to China. The college-age George W. Bush spent two months in China visiting his parents during his father's two-year stint.

"Seven years after his brother left the ambassadorial post, Prescott Bush made his first trip to China. He later joined with Japanese partners in 1988 to build a golf course in Shanghai, the first in China. He met Jiang, who was then the mayor of Shanghai.

"Prescott Bush, now 79, also developed a close working relationship with Rong Yiren, a former trade minister and vice president, who in 1993 introduced Bush to a group of Chinese business leaders as "an old friend." In 2000, Forbes publications reported that Rong, who has retired from government, was the richest man in China.

"The president's uncle concedes that he sometimes relied on his name to open doors, but he says any deals he made were the result of his own hard work."

~snip~

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2002/02/19/usat-prescott-bush.htm

http://www.usccc.org/Current/mem-b.htm


His Excellency, Premier Zhu Rongji and Prescott Bush, Chairman (retired) of US-China Chamber of Commerce

President George Bush, Siva Yam, President of Us-China Chamber of Commerce and Prescott Bush, Chairman

[jim3775]

19. BECAUSE AMERICAN CORPORATIONS MAKE TONS OF MONEY

EXPORTING LABOUR TO CHINA!

[La Coliniere]

25. And yet we can continuously screw

the people of Cuba. Does this make any sense what so ever? All for a few votes in S. Florida.

[UTUSN]

26. Because They Deliver Cheap KnickKnacks We Want? n/t

[Tinksrival]

27. I wish I could post this picture

cause it definetly belongs in this thread!

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/091405unworldsummit/im:/050914/ids_photos_ts/r2024434645.jpg;_ylt=AsX18tQJ17naMhp3QZ11UVXlWMcF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5bGcyMWMzBHNlYwNzc25hdg--

U.S. President George W. Bush winks at Chinese President Hu Jintao at a luncheon at the 2005 World Summit and 60th General Assembly of the United Nations in New York September 14, 2005. World leaders are exploring ways to revitalize the United Nations at a summit on Wednesday but their blueprint falls short of Secretary-General Kofi Annan's vision of freedom from want, persecution and war. REUTERS/Larry Downing
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[Tinksrival]

28. I wish I could post this picture

cause it definetly belongs in this thread!

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/wl/091405unworldsummit/im:/050914/ids_photos_ts/r2024434645.jpg;_ylt=AsX18tQJ17naMhp3QZ11UVXlWMcF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5bGcyMWMzBHNlYwNzc25hdg--

U.S. President George W. Bush winks at Chinese President Hu Jintao at a luncheon at the 2005 World Summit and 60th General Assembly of the United Nations in New York September 14, 2005. World leaders are exploring ways to revitalize the United Nations at a summit on Wednesday but their blueprint falls short of Secretary-General Kofi Annan's vision of freedom from want, persecution and war. REUTERS/Larry Downing
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[Tinksrival]

30. Well it's 119 in the UN Pics

[Maple]

29. US makes a couple of billion a week in China

Trade is both ways.

[WilliamPitt]

32. Because they own us.

[nini]

33. HEY... YOUR CAPS KEY IS ON

just saying.

[tavalon]

36. Because they own us

Any more questions?

Oh, and if you have any spare time, learning Chinese might be a good thing.