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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:54 AM
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How convenient. Brown says it's not the WH's fault now, but Gov Blanco's.
According to NBC's morning show, Brown said he now honestly believes the White House wasn't at any fault in the handling of the disaster, but is focusing the blame towards Democratic Governor Blanco, saying her response was "confusing".

Yup, it's always the fault of the Democrats. So the conservative media takes aim on Blanco to get Bush off the hook of responsibity AGAIN.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:56 AM
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1. Is there a file
in here on all the Katrina info - who was responsible for what when?

I know I've seen threads, but trying to wade through a search is proving too much.

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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:03 AM
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11. Katrina time Line
Friday, August 26
PRESIDENT DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY
President declares a State of Emergency in Louisiana on August 26, 2005 that technically made the Governor’s request unnecessary. This can be seen from the official White House press release at http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050827-1.html

Once the President declared the State of Emergency on August 26, 2005, it triggered something called “An Incident of National Significance.” According to the United States National Response Plan, this has quite a few consequences, all of which are designed to put the Federal Government in charge, eliminate delays based on paperwork, and eliminate any need for local officials to ask for help. Here are some quotes:

“The President leads the Nation in responding efficiently and ensuring the necessary resources are applied quickly and effectively to all Incidents of National Significance.”

"Standard procedures regarding requests for assistance may be expedited, or under extreme circumstances, suspended in the immediate aftermath of an event of catastrophic magnitude."

The US National Response Plan can be found at http://www.dhs.gov/dhspublic/interweb/assetlibrary/NRP_FullText.pdf

The FEMA documents cited are Offical Notices in the "FEMA Federal Register" here.


GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA:

GULF COAST STATES REQUEST TROOP ASSISTANCE FROM PENTAGON: At a 9/1 press conference, Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander, Joint Task Force Katrina, said that the Gulf States began the process of requesting additional forces on Friday, 8/26.

Sunday, August 28
5AM — KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 3 HURRICANE

GOV. BLANCO ASKS BUSH TO DECLARE FEDERAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA: “I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster.”
The Governor request for help on August 28, 2005 as can be easily seen by viewing her official request at http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf
and on the web:
http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=976

The official White House response to this request is in the press release at http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050829-2.html

FEDERAL EMERGENCY DECLARED, DHS AND FEMA GIVEN FULL AUTHORITY TO RESPOND TO KATRINA: “Specifically, FEMA is authorized to identify, mobilize, and provide at its discretion, equipment and resources necessary to alleviate the impacts of the emergency.”

Stafford Act (42 USC 68), which was amended after the terror attacks of four years ago to state that any presidentially declared disaster or national emergency automatically became an Incident of National Significance and as such was the responsibility of the federal government to handle it. Reference is Section 5143, which states:

Immediately upon his declaration of a major disaster or emergency, the President shall appoint a Federal coordinating officer to operate in the affected area.

(b) Functions of Federal coordinating officer

In order to effectuate the purposes of this chapter, the Federal coordinating officer, within the affected area, shall -

(1) make an initial appraisal of the types of relief most urgently needed;
(2) establish such field offices as he deems necessary and as are authorized by the President;
(3) coordinate the administration of relief, including activities of the State and local governments, the American National Red Cross, the Salvation Army, the Mennonite Disaster Service, and other relief or disaster assistance organizations, which agree to operate under his advice or direction, except that nothing contained in this chapter shall limit or in any way affect the responsibilities of the American National Red Cross under chapter 3001 of title 36; and
(4) take such other action, consistent with authority delegated to him by the President, and consistent with the provisions of this chapter, as he may deem necessary to assist local citizens and public officials in promptly obtaining assistance to which they are entitled.

Sunday, August 28
2AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE

7AM – KATRINA UPGRADED TO CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE

MORNING — LOUISIANA NEWSPAPER SIGNALS LEVEES MAY GIVE: “Forecasters Fear Levees Won’t Hold Katrina”: “Forecasters feared Sunday afternoon that storm driven waters will lap over the New Orleans levees when monster Hurricane Katrina pushes past the Crescent City tomorrow.”


9:30 AM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES FIRST EVER MANDATORY EVACUATION OF NEW ORLEANS: “We’re facing the storm most of us have feared,” said Nagin. “This is going to be an unprecedented event.”

“Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to evacuate themselves.”

This is referring to evacuating people to an emergency shelter within the city, not evacuating people to points outside the city. The Mayor did implement an emergency bussing system that evacuated the city's poor and disabled to the Superdome.

This can be verified by reading the plan at http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26


4PM – NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ISSUES SPECIAL HURRICANE WARNING: In the event of a category 4 or 5 hit, “Most of the area will be uninhabitable for weeks, perhaps longer. … At least one-half of well-constructed homes will have roof and wall failure. All gabled roofs will fail, leaving those homes severely damaged or destroyed. … Power outages will last for weeks. … Water shortages will make human suffering incredible by modern standards.”

AFTERNOON — BUSH, BROWN, CHERTOFF WARNED OF LEVEE FAILURE BY NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER DIRECTOR: Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center: “‘We were briefing them way before landfall. … It’s not like this was a surprise. We had in the advisories that the levee could be topped.’”

LATE PM – REPORTS OF WATER TOPPLING OVER LEVEE: “Waves crashed atop the exercise path on the Lake Pontchartrain levee in Kenner early Monday as Katrina churned closer.”

APPROXIMATELY 30,000 EVACUEES GATHER AT SUPERDOME WITH ROUGHLY 36 HOURS WORTH OF FOOD

DHS BEGINS BUNGLING:
In one instance, federal environmental health specialists, who were charged with protecting both rescue workers and evacuees, weren't called in by the Department of Homeland Security until Sunday -- 12 days after the Occupational Safety & Health Administration announced it had teams from various agencies standing by ready to assist. Even now, with mounting evidence of environmental problems, the deployment is being held up by continuing interagency wrangling, according to officials at the National Institutes of Health, which also is involved in the effort.
In addition, FEMA's official requests, known as tasking assignments and used by the agency to demand help from other government agencies, show that it first asked the Department of Transportation to look for buses to help evacuate the more than 20,000 people who had taken refuge at the Superdome in New Orleans at 1:45 a.m. on Aug. 31. At the time, it only asked for 455 buses and 300 ambulances for the enormous task. Almost 18 hours later, it canceled the request for the ambulances because it turned out, as one FEMA employee put it, "the DOT doesn't do ambulances."

FEMA ended up modifying the number of buses it thought it needed to get the job done, until it settled on a final request of 1,355 buses at 8:05 p.m. on Sept. 3. The buses, though, trickled into New Orleans, with only a dozen or so arriving on the first day.


ALL CONDITIONS FOR FEDERAL RELIEF ACT ARE MET:
All necessary conditions for federal relief were met on August 28. Pursuant to Section 502 of the Stafford Act, "he declaration of an emergency by the President makes Federal emergency assistance available," and the President made such a declaration on August 28. The public record indicates that several additional days passed before such assistance was actually made available to the State;

The Governor must make a timely request for such assistance, which meets the requirements of federal law. The report states that "xcept to the extent that an emergency involves primarily Federal interests, both declarations of major disaster and declarations of emergency must be triggered by a request to the President from the Governor of the affected state";

The Governor did indeed make such a request, which was both timely and in compliance with federal law. The report finds that "Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco requested by letter dated August 27, 2005...that the President declare an emergency for the State of Louisiana due to Hurricane Katrina for the time period from August 26, 2005 and continuing pursuant to " and "Governor Blanco's August 27,2005 request for an emergency declaration also included her determination...that 'the incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of disaster."

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/crskatrinarept91205.pdf


The federal official with the power to mobilize a massive federal response to Hurricane Katrina was Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, not the former FEMA chief Brown, who was relieved of his duties and resigned earlier this week, federal documents show.

Even before the storm struck the Gulf Coast, Chertoff could have ordered federal agencies into action without any request from state or local officials. Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown had only limited authority to do so until about 36 hours after the storm hit, when Chertoff designated him as the "principal federal official" in charge of the storm....

But Chertoff - not Brown - was in charge of managing the national response to a catastrophic disaster, according to the National Response Plan, the federal government's blueprint for how agencies will handle major natural disasters or terrorist incidents. An order issued by President Bush in 2003 also assigned that responsibility to the homeland security director."

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/politic...

Monday, August 29
3AM- 9TH ST. CANAL LEVEE BREAKS
Statement given to the New Orleans Times Picayune by Master Sgt. Stephen Cockerham who was at the National Guard Headquarters during the storm:
"I'd say within 15 minutes, it was six feet deep inside the building."
The winds were too strong to flee, he said, and he did not know at the time that the levee gave way. "All I know is it came up damned fast," he said. "I'd say we were right in the midst of the strongest winds when the levee broke."
The flooding from the levee breach shut down the cities National Guard Headquarters, destroyed much of the communication equipment, and sent the Guardsmen to the Superdome for refuge.
Other communications gear, which was stored in the back of a military truck, floated away...
400 Guardsmen rode out the hurricane at the barracks...
By 9:30 p.m.(Monday), Guard leaders decided to relocate the command staff to the Superdome..."Once we lost power, that's really when we ceased to function,"...helicopter crews picked them up and flew them to the Superdome.

5AM- CIVILIAN CALLS CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO TELL THEM OF BREAK @ 17TH ST. CANAL. FEMA FAILS TO ACTIVATE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM

7AM – KATRINA MAKES LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY 4 HURRICANE

8AM – MAYOR NAGIN REPORTS THAT WATER IS FLOWING OVER LEVEE: “I’ve gotten reports this morning that there is already water coming over some of the levee systems. In the lower ninth ward, we’ve had one of our pumping stations to stop operating, so we will have significant flooding, it is just a matter of how much.”

8:15AM NWS ISSUES ALERT:

WGUS54 KLIX 291316
FFWLIX
LAC071-087-291915-
BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
FLASH FLOOD WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
814 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A
FLASH FLOOD WARNING FOR ORLEANS PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF...NEW ORLEANS ST. BERNARD PARISH IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA THIS INCLUDES THE CITY OF CHALMETTE

MORNING — BUSH CALLS SECRETARY CHERTOFF TO DISCUSS IMMIGRATION: “I spoke to Mike Chertoff today — he’s the head of the Department of Homeland Security. I knew people would want me to discuss this issue , so we got us an airplane on — a telephone on Air Force One, so I called him. I said, are you working with the governor? He said, you bet we are.”

MORNING- Blanco calls Bush: "I need everything you've got," the governor said she told the president on Monday. "I am going to need all the help you can send me."


MORNING – BUSH SHARES BIRTHDAY CAKE PHOTO-OP WITH SEN. JOHN MCCAIN

11AM — BUSH VISITS ARIZONA RESORT TO PROMOTE MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “This new bill I signed says, if you’re a senior and you like the way things are today, you’re in good shape, don’t change. But, by the way, there’s a lot of different options for you. And we’re here to talk about what that means to our seniors.”

LATE MORNING - LEVEE BREACHED: “A large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new ‘hurricane proof’ Old Hammond Highway bridge, gave way late Monday morning in Bucktown after Katrina’s fiercest winds were well north.”

11:30AM — MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY REQUESTS THAT DHS DISPATCH 1,000 EMPLOYEES TO REGION, GIVES THEM TWO DAYS TO ARRIVE: “Brown’s memo to Chertoff described Katrina as ‘this near catastrophic event’ but otherwise lacked any urgent language. The memo politely ended, ‘Thank you for your consideration in helping us to meet our responsibilities.’”

2PM — BUSH TRAVELS TO CALIFORNIA SENIOR CENTER TO DISCUSS MEDICARE DRUG BENEFIT: “We’ve got some folks up here who are concerned about their Social Security or Medicare. Joan Geist is with us. … I could tell — she was looking at me when I first walked in the room to meet her, she was wondering whether or not old George W. is going to take away her Social Security check.”

6PM- FEDERAL OFFICIALS LEARN OF LEVEE BREAK:
Federal officials in New Orleans and Vicksburg knew at 6PM on the night of Monday, August 29th, that at least one levee had failed in New Orleans and that the city was in the process of flooding. Yet, armed with this critical life-saving knowledge, officials did nothing to warn the public of the impending deluge. The commander of the New Orleans district of the Army Corps of Engineers, Col. Richard P. Wagenaar, finally confirmed the breach between and 3 and 6 p.m. Aug. 29 and reported it to headquarters in Vicksburg, Miss.

9PM — RUMSFELD ATTENDS SAN DIEGO PADRES BASEBALL GAME: Rumsfeld “joined Padres President John Moores in the owner’s box…at Petco Park.”

Tuesday, August 30
9AM – BUSH SPEAKS ON IRAQ AT NAVAL BASE CORONADO

MIDDAY – CHERTOFF FINALLY BECOMES AWARE THAT LEVEE HAS FAILED: “It was on Tuesday that the levee–may have been overnight Monday to Tuesday–that the levee started to break. And it was midday Tuesday that I became aware of the fact that there was no possibility of plugging the gap and that essentially the lake was going to start to drain into the city.”

PENTAGON CLAIMS THERE ARE ENOUGH NATIONAL GUARD TROOPS IN REGION: “Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs.”

MASS LOOTING REPORTED, SECURITY SHORTAGE CITED: “The looting is out of control. The French Quarter has been attacked,” Councilwoman Jackie Clarkson said. “We’re using exhausted, scarce police to control looting when they should be used for search and rescue while we still have people on rooftops.”

U.S.S. BATAAN SITS OFF SHORE, VIRTUALLY UNUSED: “The USS Bataan, a 844-foot ship designed to dispatch Marines in amphibious assaults, has helicopters, doctors, hospital beds, food and water. It also can make its own water, up to 100,000 gallons a day. And it just happened to be in the Gulf of Mexico when Katrina came roaring ashore. The Bataan rode out the storm and then followed it toward shore, awaiting relief orders. Helicopter pilots flying from its deck were some of the first to begin plucking stranded New Orleans residents. But now the Bataan’s hospital facilities, including six operating rooms and beds for 600 patients, are empty.”

3PM – PRESIDENT BUSH PLAYS GUITAR WITH COUNTRY SINGER MARK WILLIS

BUSH RETURNS TO CRAWFORD FOR FINAL NIGHT OF VACATION
Wednesday, August 31

TENS OF THOUSANDS TRAPPED IN SUPERDOME; CONDITIONS DETERIORATE: “A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers. ‘We pee on the floor. We are like animals,’ said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. … By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror. … At least two people, including a child, have been raped. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for. There is no sanitation. The stench is overwhelming.”"

PRESIDENT BUSH FINALLY ORGANIZES TASK FORCE TO COORDINATE FEDERAL RESPONSE: Bush says on Tuesday he will “fly to Washington to begin work…with a task force that will coordinate the work of 14 federal agencies involved in the relief effort.”

JEFFERSON PARISH EMERGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY GONE: “Director Walter Maestri: FEMA and national agencies not delivering the help nearly as fast as it is needed.”

80,000 BELIEVED STRANDED IN NEW ORLEANS: Former Mayor Sidney Barthelemy “estimated 80,000 were trapped in the flooded city and urged President Bush to send more troops.”

3,000 STRANDED AT CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT FOOD OR WATER: “With 3,000 or more evacuees stranded at the convention center — and with no apparent contingency plan or authority to deal with them — collecting a body was no one’s priority. … Some had been at the convention center since Tuesday morning but had received no food, water or instructions.”

5PM — BUSH GIVES FIRST MAJOR ADDRESS ON KATRINA: “Nothing about the president’s demeanor… — which seemed casual to the point of carelessness — suggested that he understood the depth of the current crisis.”

8:00PM – CONDOLEEZZA RICE TAKES IN A BROADWAY SHOW: “On Wednesday night, Secretary Rice was booed by some audience members at ‘Spamalot!, the Monty Python musical at the Shubert, when the lights went up after the performance.”

9PM — FEMA DIRECTOR BROWN CLAIMS SURPRISE OVER SIZE OF STORM: “I must say, this storm is much much bigger than anyone expected.”


POWER CREWS DIVERTED TO RESTORING POWER TO OIL PIPELINE FIRST

"Cheney orders rural electric crews to work on oil pipeline from Texas"

HATTIESBURG, Miss. (Hattiesburg American) -- Shortly after Hurricane Katrina roared through South Mississippi knocking out electricity and communication systems, the White House ordered power restored to a pipeline that sends fuel to the Northeast.

That order -- to restart two power substations in Collins that serve Colonial Pipeline Co. -- delayed efforts by at least 24 hours to restore power to two rural hospitals and a number of water systems in the Pine Belt.

"I considered it a presidential directive to get those pipelines operating," said Jim Compton, general manager of the South Mississippi Electric Power Association...
"We were led to believe a national emergency was created when the pipelines were shut down," Compton said.

White House call

Dan Jordan, manager of Southern Pines Electric Power Association, said Vice President Dick Cheney's office called and left voice mails twice shortly after the storm struck, saying the Collins substations needed power restored immediately.

Jordan dated the first call the night of Aug. 30 and the second call the morning of Aug. 31. Southern Pines supplies electricity to the substation that powers the Colonial pipeline.

Mississippi Public Service Commissioner Mike Callahan said the U.S. Department of Energy called him on Aug. 31. Callahan said department officials said opening the fuel line was a national priority.

Thursday, September 1
8AM — BUSH CLAIMS NO ONE EXPECTED LEVEES TO BREAK: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees.”

CONDOLEEZZA RICE VISITS U.S. OPEN: “Rice, on three days’ vacation to shop and see the U.S. Open, hitting some balls with retired champ Monica Seles at the Indoor Tennis Club at Grand Central.”

STILL NO COMMAND AND CONTROL ESTABLISHED: Terry Ebbert, New Orleans Homeland Security Director: “This is a national emergency. This is a national disgrace. FEMA has been here three days, yet there is no command and control. We can send massive amounts of aid to tsunami victims, but we can’t bail out the city of New Orleans.”

2PM — MAYOR NAGIN ISSUES “DESPERATE SOS” TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT: “This is a desperate SOS. Right now we are out of resources at the convention centre and don’t anticipate enough buses. We need buses. Currently the convention centre is unsanitary and unsafe and we’re running out of supplies.”

2PM — MICHAEL BROWN CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE HEARD OF REPORTS OF VIOLENCE: “I’ve had no reports of unrest, if the connotation of the word unrest means that people are beginning to riot, or you know, they’re banging on walls and screaming and hollering or burning tires or whatever. I’ve had no reports of that.”

NEW ORLEANS “DESCEND INTO ANARCHY”: “Storm victims were raped and beaten, fights and fires broke out, corpses lay out in the open, and rescue helicopters and law enforcement officers were shot at as flooded-out New Orleans descended into anarchy Thursday. ‘This is a desperate SOS,’ the mayor said.”

CONDOLEEZZA RICE GOES SHOE SHOPPING: “Just moments ago at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue, Condoleeza Rice was seen spending several thousands of dollars on some nice, new shoes (we’ve confirmed this, so her new heels will surely get coverage from the WaPo’s Robin Givhan). A fellow shopper, unable to fathom the absurdity of Rice’s timing, went up to the Secretary and reportedly shouted, ‘How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!’”

MICHAEL BROWN FINALLY LEARNS OF EVACUEES IN CONVENTION CENTER: “We learned about that (Thursday), so I have directed that we have all available resources to get that convention center to make sure that they have the food and water and medical care that they need.”

Friday, September 2
ROVE-LED CAMPAIGN TO BLAME LOCAL OFFICIALS BEGINS: “Under the command of President Bush’s two senior political advisers, the White House rolled out a plan…to contain the political damage from the administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina.” President Bush’s comments from the Rose Garden Friday morning formed “the start of this campaign.”

9:35AM — BUSH PRAISES MICHAEL BROWN: “Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.”

10 AM — PRESIDENT BUSH STAGES PHOTO-OP “BRIEFING”: Coast Guard helicopters and crew diverted to act as backdrop for President Bush’s photo-op.

BUSH VISIT GROUNDS FOOD AID: “Three tons of food ready for delivery by air to refugees in St. Bernard Parish and on Algiers Point sat on the Crescent City Connection bridge Friday afternoon as air traffic was halted because of President Bush’s visit to New Orleans, officials said.”

Investigation finds Red Cross agreed to withhold Orleans aid, operates in tandem with Homeland Security
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Investigation_finds_Red_Cross_agreed_to_withhold_New_Orleans_aid_operates_in_tandem_with_Home_0913.html

LEVEE REPAIR WORK ORCHESTRATED FOR PRESIDENT’S VISIT: Sen. Mary Landrieu, 9/3: “Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment.”

BUSH USES 50 FIREFIGHTERS AS PROPS IN DISASTER AREA PHOTO-OP: A group of 1,000 firefighters convened in Atlanta to volunteer with the Katrina relief efforts. Of those, “a team of 50 Monday morning quickly was ushered onto a flight headed for Louisiana. The crew’s first assignment: to stand beside President Bush as he tours devastated areas.”

3PM — BUSH “SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSE”: “I am satisfied with the response. I am not satisfied with all the results.”

Saturday, September 3
SENIOR BUSH ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL LIES TO WASHINGTON POST, CLAIMS GOV. BLANCO NEVER DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY: The Post reported in their Sunday edition “As of Saturday, Blanco still had not declared a state of emergency, the senior Bush official said.” They were forced to issue a correction hours later.

9AM — BUSH BLAMES STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS: “he magnitude of responding to a crisis over a disaster area that is larger than the size of Great Britain has created tremendous problems that have strained state and local capabilities. The result is that many of our citizens simply are not getting the help they need.”

Tuesday, September 13th
On last night's Nightline, FEMA staffer Leo Bosner appeared, careful to say he was giving his personal views, not the agency's official ones. He spoke quietly but did not mince words:

"Right now as we talk, unfortunately, Homeland Security is actually impeding - in my view - impeding the rescue effort. As I mentioned, we're running a 24/7 operation down there and we're trying to do the best we can at FEMA. And we're getting held back because we're bombarded with telephone calls, day and night, from Homeland Security, saying, `Oh, Secretary Chertoff has a press conference coming up, uh, stop everything and get us this information: Can you tell us exactly how many pounds of ice have been delivered to such and such county,' or, `Why are the number of rescues different from what they were six hours ago?' They're impeding the effort right now."

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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:05 AM
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13. Format prob
Sorry- i don't know why the post acquires the strike throughs at the end. They aren't there in the original, nor in preview.

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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:14 AM
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16. THANK YOU! n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:57 AM
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2. Who the hell is 'Great job, Brownie' to criticize anyone?
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:57 AM
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3. I am seriously considering this theory:
That in order to be a Bushie, you must agree to leave your soul at the door for your tenure. How else would he be able to find this many people to out-and-out LIE this way for him????

It's frankly BIZARRE.

TC
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:57 AM
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4. So does that mean he doesn't believe the president
when he said "I accept responsibility" ? They really need to drop the spin. It' over.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:58 AM
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5. Brown will be well taken care of by BushCo
He may have resigned in disgrace, but these guy always find that disgrace can be mitigated by a few million bucks skimmed from the people.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:13 AM
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15. I'm thinking along those lines, too. This thing has
bribe written all over it, right from the start.

I'm sure the "authorities" let Brown know right from the start that he and his family would be well taken care of if he played ball.

Wouldn't it be something if this lead to the next Watergate? (fingers crossed)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:36 AM
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18. Wouldn't it be something if this led to the next Watergate?
It already is the next Watergate. Except now we have a neutered press. There are no heroes anymore. Taking Bush's money is a better career path, because it bumps them into Bush's exclusive tax bracket for his buds.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:58 AM
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6. He's probably trying to protect his pension
He resigned, so he must get some benefits, but if they fired his ass or did an investigation into his lies and incompetence, he would probably lose those benefits. So, for now, he'll suck up to whomever he must in order to protect himself.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:00 AM
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7. The Failure to Lead was from the Top
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 08:01 AM by DoYouEverWonder
and it was on purpose.

That is not the same has making mistakes in the heat of the moment.

That is a cold hearted calculated assessment of the situation and then deliberately sabotaging the rescue response. That is criminal and at the least negligent homicide.

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Grateful for Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:01 AM
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8. At first he blamed the media
Guess that didn't work very well, so now it's on to the Dems.

Pretty predictable.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:01 AM
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9. Last night, I heard a report saying that Chertoff was the one
who actually caused the delay in response. I think it was on CNN or MSNBC, but I don't remember who said it. The comment was that it was Chertoff's job to issue the first activation orders, and he didn't know it was HIS JOB! He was waiting for the Pres or someone else to tell him what to do.

I don't know if this is true or not. If it is, maybe it wasn't really Brownie's fault, but that of HIS BOSS!
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:03 AM
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10. So Suddenly Michael Brown is a credible, reliable source of information
about Katrina disaster relief efforts?

What next, he is hired by Fox as a Disaster Relief Analyst?

He could tutor under Dick Morris.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:05 AM
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12. Awwww. Brownie was confused?
Maybe it would have made more sense to him if Gov. Blanco had pawed the ground three times with her foot.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:13 AM
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14. And we should take the word of a stable boy who resigned in disgrace?
I don't think so.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:14 AM
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17. Yeah, but he's an incompetent bungler. Why should we care what he says?
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:39 AM
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19. Oh good lord. Anyone who reads the article all the way through
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 08:40 AM by DemsUnited
realizes that 1)Brown was completely out of his depth and 2) his distress calls to the White House went unheeded.

Plus, THREE OTHER TOP FEMA DIRECTORS ARE RESIGNING!! That sure says to me that FEMA f***ed up.

Unfortunately, too many in this country don't bother to read beyond the headlines or look beyond the spin.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:43 AM
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20. Democrats should use this to call game over on this asshole
Can the GOP Congress approve this guy over their minority vote?

Sure.

But can the Dems make it look like Roberts is part and parcel of the corrupt, anti-democratic, incompetent band of thugs running our country?

Yes.

And that would make every republican who voted for this sack of shit be that much more afraid for his seat in congress.

The democrats need a spine now more than ever.
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