Atman
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:37 AM
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Here goes Schumer..."You are deeply troubling. So I'll vote YES." |
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Is this anything more than ear-candy for his constituents? Is he going to back up any of this with a NO vote?
I doubt it.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:39 AM
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1. i wish these senators would vote like they won't be running for reelection |
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i wish they'd vote they were representing---oh i dunno, "We the people"
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:39 AM
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2. Why are you taking shots at Schumer? |
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I doubt he said that and think you made up the quote.
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Atman
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:48 AM
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3. Of course I made up the quote. |
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No wonder we keep losing elections. We question every little bit of minutae at the expense of the larger points.
And yes, I AM taking a shot at Schumer. If he votes NO, I'll retract it. But I am sick to fucking death of hearing these blowhards sit there and mug for their next campaign commercials, without taking any substantive steps to stop the Bush juggernaut. They're handing our country over to extremists without even so much as slap-fight.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:49 AM
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:55 AM
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we found out in the 2000 election that all the Democratic Senators were full of shit when none of them stood up with Black members of Congress to protest the stolen vote. Sure they'll all vote for him except for the usual holdouts, Kennedy and Feinstein.
That's why they had to kill Wellstone. He would have stood up.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:57 AM
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6. Wellstone was in the Senate in 2000. He didn't rock the boat then. |
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I admire Paul Wellstone, but we really ought to avoid the hagiography.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:00 AM
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8. Afterwards he and Kerry will go have a drink |
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at the Knuckle Under Club.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:09 AM
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10. Hang him and have the trial later, huh? |
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What "substantive steps" do you expect Democrats to take to "stop the Bush juggernaut"? Even Houdini can't turn 45 votes into 51 votes.
Sure Schumer should vote NO and I would also criticize him if he didn't. But I think it is absurd to anticipate that he will vote for Roberts when everything he's said so far indicates he will not.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:17 AM
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15. Come on.... Our representation has been lacking for a long time. |
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Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 10:25 AM by converted_democrat
When have they, or he, "really" done anything for us recently?? When have we been truly represented?? We haven't. When people hire a lawyer, and the lawyer fails to represent, they can the lawyer. For some reason though, some Dem's think that we should defend our leaders just because they have a D after their name. Fuck that, that's why we are losing.
Edit- for my awful grammar
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:45 AM
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18. THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD VOTE NO *SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO*! |
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> What "substantive steps" do you expect Democrats to take to "stop the Bush juggernaut"?
THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD VOTE NO *SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO*!
(And yes, I'm shouting, because this seems to be a principle that they can't get through their heads no matter how many times we've tried to teach it to them. It would be far better for the Dems, in the long run, *IF THEY ACTUALLY STOOD FOR SOMETHING* than if every vote they cast was simply an attempt to prevent some Republican saying something nasty about them come the next election.
'Doesn't matter; the Republicans will *STILL* say nasty things about them!)
Tesha
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:56 AM
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Politics is all about appeasement now. "Standing for something" is so old school..if we could all just agree to not be so divisive and be content with whatever crumbs fall off the GOP table...
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:10 AM
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11. The reason we lose elections is that |
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Dems don't stick together. Now that Bush is down, I read post after post here on DU of people attacking...DEMS!
Now is the time to attack...REPUBS! But that assumes that you really want to change the direction of the country and feel like a winner, not a whiner.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:59 AM
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7. so your just trying to get it out of your system in advance |
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I'll wait for someone to do the crime before I send him to jail.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:05 AM
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9. He actually said that he would vote "yes?" |
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:13 AM
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13. Of course not, but I think he expects Schumer to turn water into wine |
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When Roberts is confirmed it will be Chuck Schumer's fault because he can't walk on water, can't turn fish into loaves and can't make 51 votes out of 45.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:22 AM
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You're obviously a strong Schumer fan. I am asking no Jesus-like behavior, although your worship of him leads me to believe he must be some sort of saint, I missed the annointing.
I'm sorry for making the larger point that all this blustering and pontificating is just that if these clowns just keep voting YES when they're done. If you can show me something that says Schumer plans to vote no, I'll take it. But I've seen these guys do this shit too many times, and I'm sick of it.
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:06 AM
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22. "Bite me"? Is that how you want your Dem pols to act? |
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No, I am not a particularly big fan of Schumer and I certainly do not worship him.
But I do not condemn people for doing things they have not done yet nor do I treat others here as you do, with snarky dismissals when they do not agree with me.
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:19 AM
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23. Sorry, my snarky dismissal was dismissing your snarky dismissal. |
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It's a two-way street, snarky.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:15 AM
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14. Schumer voted against roberts in '03. |
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:24 AM
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17. Thanks you, wakeme. I will refrain from further blasting |
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until I see how he votes this time.
I appreciate your actually adding something constructive to the thread instead of just bashing me for being concerned that we're going to get sold down the river again by our "representatives."
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:23 AM
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A truly generous act of compassion.
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:49 AM
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19. Did I miss something? Why shots at Schumer & not Hillary? |
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I sent them both emails about Roberts and got the basic canned diplomatic "I'm reserving judgement until... (yada yada yada)" letter from both of them.
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:21 AM
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24. Because I watching Schumer on teevee, not Hillary |
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No other reason. Without reinvigorating a favorite flame war, I'm pretty disgusted with the Clintons these days, too.
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:41 AM
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26. Ah okay... figured something had to be the trigger. |
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Thanks for clarifying "why".B-)
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:59 AM
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21. I don't even know why they call the confirmation hearings a battle |
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it's more like a big, grinning, cash-infused circle jerk.
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