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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:25 PM
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Are we living in a dystopia? Why do I ask?
I was just looking at the Wikipedia article on DYSTOPIA. I used to love to read novels about future dystopias.

The article lists some common traits of a dystopian society. I only include a few here that I thought were particularly relevant.

1. nation-state ruled by an upper class with few democratic ideals

2. state propaganda programs and educational systems that coerce most citizens into worshipping the state and its government, in an attempt to convince them into thinking that life under the regime is good and just

3. strict conformity among citizens and the general assumption that dissent and individuality are bad

4. fictional rivalries between groups that actually operate as a cartel

5. insistence by the forces of the establishment that all problems are due to the action of its enemies and their dupes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopia#Common_traits_of_a_dystopian_society

#4 especially interests me. I thought "Democrats and Republicans"--to an extent. Anyone out there got any other ideas about fictional rivalries?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:27 PM
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1. Exhibit A: Joe Lieberman eom
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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:28 PM
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2. fictional rivalry - media vs government
or I should say "liberal media" vs "conservative government officials"
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:32 PM
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3. Certainly seems so based on this definition
Depressingly, these also apply:

Social stratification, where social class is strictly defined and enforced, and social mobility is non-existent (see caste system).


A nation-state ruled by an upper class with few democratic ideals


Insistence by the forces of the establishment:

that it provides the best of all possible worlds;
that all problems are due to the action of its enemies and their dupes
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:34 PM
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4. Orwell Rolls in his Grave
Available at netflix.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:13 PM
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6. Dystopia by definition since Reagan's election; the nation deliberately...
yanked off the New Deal course and pointed in the dystopic direction by the assassinations of the 1960s.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:15 PM
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7. #4 also applies to Murka and the ME "terrorists"
who are funded primarily by the bushturd's partners the Saudis.
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