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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:00 PM
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Feinstein and Schumer may vote against Roberts!
WJXX Key Democrats May Vote Against Roberts
Los Angeles Times, CA - 4 hours ago
... Key Democrats May Not Vote Against Roberts

WASHINGTON -- Two key Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee suggested today they may not vote against the nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. to be chief justice of the United States.

Sens. Dianne Feinstein of California and Charles E. Schumer of New York, among those considered most likely to vote against confirming Roberts, said they had not made up their minds.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-091505roberts_lat,0,5101866.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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Judge Roberts has a race problem -- r/e Voting Rights Act --
"To be fair, Roberts apparently did not oppose renewal of the VRA itself. But he did oppose an amendment intended to address some of the open and obvious practices that Southern governments were using to evade the spirit of the statute. And he didn’t just write a memo about it, he was passionately involved in the political opposition as well. You should note that the amendment was ultimately approved overwhelmingly and opposed by only eight Senators, including noted racists Jesse Helms, John East, and Harry Byrd. My go-to for VRA/Roberts information has been Prof. Hasen. Here’s his op-ed in the LA Times:

http://lawandpolitics.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lawandpolitics_archive.html#112465818845645075

Roberts has problem with equal pay for women
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/08/16/roberts-women/

Roberts bad news for the disabled --
The Americans with Disabilities Act was signed 15 years ago last month, but Supreme Court nominee Judge John G. Roberts is a scary birthday present
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050813/OPINION04/508130346

Roberts has ethical problem --
ethics violation will violate the sensibilities of our elected representatives.

Judd Legum writes:

"In April, Judge John Roberts 'heard arguments about the Bush administration’s policy as he was discussing a Supreme Court appointment in private conversations with the White House.' On July 15, 'when Judge Roberts met with President Bush for the job-clinching interview, he joined a ruling in favor of the defendants, who included Mr. Bush.' The White House claims Roberts didn’t do anything wrong. Bush spokesman Steve Schmitt said ‘there was no conflict whatsoever.'"
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/24619/




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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:01 PM
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1. They should. Would it matter?
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:03 PM
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2. The actual headline says may NOT vote against
:(
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:10 PM
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3. Yay. All two of them.
:nuke:

So, 98-2 is your call?

I'll go with 95-3.

Way to stand up, guys. :eyes:
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:11 PM
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4. They might as well vote to confirm
It leaves us in a better position to oppose a real extremist like Brown, Luttig, Owens, ect..

It makes their argument for the nuclear option much easier.

Their argument would be:

"If those Democrats even opposed the shining light of legal thought in his generation, John Roberts, they'll oppose anybody."
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:17 PM
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6. of course, once Brown/Owens/Tortureboy is nominated, you'll say the same
Roberts has his hands in the '00 burglary of the nation and Iran-Contra: I think standing up once in a while can't hurt
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:26 PM
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8. As far as Republicans go, Roberts seems acceptable.
We're not going to get another Souter, and Roberts seems to be ressembling Kennedy more than Republicans would like.

And even if he is as conservative as Rehnquist it doesn't change the balance of the Court.

As far as 2000, every prominent lawyer in the country had some input to give.

And I haven't heard about any involvement with Iran-Contra.

I don't think a nominee being a Republican is reason enough to reject him.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:47 PM
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11. It's the same argument that comes up every time
It's why the Dems lose- because they (or some portion of sell outs) refuse to make a stand on principles- anywhere!

Why should anyone vote for a party like that!

(fact is- many of them won't- which is why the Dems have become irrelevant).

Hell, any respectible party with a lick of integrity wouldn't have allowed Gonzales or Owens to be confirmed to the present positions.

So long as they keep this up, you can pretty much expect that they'll remain the minority party. The way things look- with nothing but weakness on that side of the aisle, the Dems may even lose seats again 2006, despite the Republican implosion.

And they'd pretty much deserve it.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:05 PM
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15. Breyer and Ginsberg got 95+ votes in 1993
and the GOP as the opposition party did pretty well in 1994...
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:11 PM
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17. Exactly
So much for the Constiution. *sigh* I loved it. :cry:
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:51 PM
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13. Political strategy worthless - start pushing back hard
Just me, but who is looking out for the country with all this talk about the next chess move. People are killed every day now because no one is checking the admin's radical agenda.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:51 PM
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20. I respectfully disagree
They should not vote "Yes" on any wingnut this wingnut president puts up. Roberts may be very, very dangerous for American rights that we take for granted. He may help change the world as we know it. This is not just me - one of the witnesses tonight (I think his name was Preuss, from the U of Chicago??) said we may be witnessing a historic moment, a shift in the Supreme Court to keep Congress from enacting laws that protect the rights of Americans.

I don't trust him one iota. And I don't want the Dems giving Bush any political victory because you know damn well he will be crowing away about it, as will all of this sycophants, Hannity, et al.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:12 PM
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5. Thanks I am writing and calling. n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:21 PM
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7. It would be a nice gesture if...
100% of Dems voted "NO" but some will vote "YEA". Roberts will be confirmed. Even if 100% of Dems voted against him he would be confirmed. Why would it matter if 100% Dems voted against? The next nominee will be the crucial one. Will that one be blatantly RW extreme, like Janice Brown or another stealth one like Roberts?
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:41 PM
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9. Have often wondered why Biden voted for
Thomas all those years ago... If Clarence hadn't been voted in - how many people would still be alive? Sorry Anita Hill - no one took you seriously enough - or not enough of us.

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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:14 PM
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18. Sorry ,I hated everything about Clarence Thomas, But Anita Hills story was
Flawed and flimsy at best, It was one of the first truly MSM carnival event,which Ronnie Ray-Guns bunch gave us plenty.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:16 PM
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19. Flawed and flimsy? please explain yourself more fully
I'd like to hear it. thanks.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 05:05 PM
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22. Sorry I took so long getting back to you
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:46 PM
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10. Gosh! A Democrat or two will oppose Bush?- we must all celebrate.
I hope they are not being too radical. Hannity might say bad things about them.
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:48 PM
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12. Subject line and the 1st line of the article don't match, VERY confusing!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:58 PM
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14. I wonder how Lieberman will come down?
He is strongly pro-choice, so it is possible he might vote against Roberts, but he has this thing about being "bi-partisan".
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 08:45 PM
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21. Lieberman will vote for Roberts
I'll donate $150 more to katrina if I'm wrong, but I'm not.

I'll donate anyway, but Leiberman isn't a Democrat when it matters.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:08 PM
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16. I just wrote to Feinstein letting her know I want her to vote NO
Thanks for the link.
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