Bush is going to get a bounce in the polls

[GreenPartyVoter]

1) He was just specific enough about action being taken to fix the Gulf sheeple will feel reassured there's a plan.

2) he spoke on poverty and racism.

3) He wore the blue shirt so looked homey and like he was "workin' hard"

However, I am concerned that with all the talk of improving the emergency response effort for the future he didn't mention that under Clinton FEMA was great. He didn't mention rolling back the tax cuts. He didn't say there would be an independent investigation. And I feel for all the attempts to assist evacuees, I fear it won't be enough and that the money will run out and leave them in the lurch.

Editing to say I did NOT mean he is coming back. Just that he will tick upward for a couple days from this. I still feel overall he's toast.

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[rfranklin]

1. Of course, you and I know that its BS...

but you can fool some of the people all of the time. And the rest most of the time.

[blonndee]

2. I think the mention of 9/11 and "evil men" will actually hurt him.

Reminds people we haven't done shit about O/UBL. And the "weapons of mass destruction" thing will remind people there weren't any. Except for the stupidest people.

[KoKo]

39. Tucker Carlson said his conservative base is not going to be happy with

Big Government Spending. They will see it as Socialism. :shrug: Tucker seemed to be pissed at him. I don't watch Tucker but I believe he's a Libertarian. He also didn't like whe "War on Poverty" angle of the speech.

[RummyTheDummy]

3. No he won't

Might be a small blip or two, but he's past the point of no return politcially. He can thrash about all he wants and promise what he wants, but he's over. He said nothing substanitive whatseover.

[OhioChick]

8. I agree with you 100%

Maybe an initial increase of a few percent within the next few days, but he's done.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Oh, I am not saying he is pulling up out of the hole, just that the #s

will have a small bounce up for a few days.

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[AlCzervik]

4. i doubt it, he left a lot out and he's 16 days late

[I_Make_Mistakes]

19. He had none of his smiles and jokes. He looks defeated, and good

for that! He looked like Brownie, after the crap hit the fan.

I think most moderate Repub's, really aren't going to be that interested in tax cuts after what they have witnessed. Just think, who lives on the beach, not near the beach.

[gollygee]

5. You just think that b/c you vote green and he talked like a Green member

he's left of the dems at this point.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. He didn't speak like any Green I know

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[charlie]

27. That's deep

Really deeeeep.

[Maddy McCall]

6. No, he won't.

The dead can't speak, but the death toll can.

[Olney Blue]

21. Maddy, how are you?

:hi:

[ThomWV]

7. I doubt it

Nothing convincing at all, same old Bushshit.

[fooj]

9. I don't think he will.

He delivered his speech like he was reading a grocery list. No feeling. No palpable empathy. Nothing. Nothing but empty rhetoric.

Peace.

[mourningdove92]

10. It would have to be one hell of a bounce to make any

difference. I'm not too worried.

[Brother Buzz]

11. Can you say Dead Cat Bounce?

[indie_voter]

13. I would be shocked if he did n/t

[maine_raptor]

15. Agree GPV, he'll get a bounce

how much and for how long remains to be seen.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Very short. Days, even. But I do think there will be a feel-good

knee-jerk reaction from the sheeple in the polls.

[maine_raptor]

31. Any pres usually does

Question is when will the buzz wear off and the hangover begin?

Also the pounding that he will take from the right wing (Rush, etc) will sober some up too.

Remember the internal of the NYT/CBS poll released today....65% believe that Bush does not have the same priorities. This plays right into the rights discontent on that point.

[paulk]

16. will people believe him?

his credibility has really been damaged by this fiasco -

more and more people are realizing that Bush talk is cheap.

a day late and a dollar short -

it will be interesting to see if the MSM can keep him propped up

[nonconformist]

17. Nah. Real liberals/progressives/dems won't buy it.

Real conservatives will NOT like all these "socialist" programs.

He just annoyed his base and failed to comfort his opposers.

And he *never* said HOW we're gonna pay for all this!

[truebrit71]

28. That's a big bingo....

...his "base" are going to be real unhappy about all of that "free" money going to the poor....

[Demonaut]

18. actually he knows quite a bit about poverty and racism

just ask his Mom

[MuseRider]

20. If he does it

will last long enough for people to wonder where all this money is coming from and then the tax cuts will be made permanent and down he will go and it won't stop this time.

[Amonester]

36. they better wonder about it soon... 'cuz we know the answer...

IOUs (China) + (Japan)

Just a few more doughs for the "not born yet" and there would not have been so many poor or/and disabled people DEAD if the same IOUs had come long ago to fortify the levees...

But hey, we're safer.

Suuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrre... :scared:

[deadparrot]

22. Honestly? I don't think the vast majority of Americans were even aware

that there was a speech tonight.

I say "no noticeable bump." :shrug:

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

24. I don't think so... too little too late

he can sit in front of a blue screen everynight for the next 3 years and it would not bring back the dead

[truebrit71]

25. I'm not so sure about that..

..After he stumbled through the first six minutes, he seemed to get more comfortable as he reached for comfort words like "terr" etc etc which resembled more of a campaign speech than anything else..

Nothing new here, he almost physically recoiled as he spoke of the poor, but got more confident as he brought in references to his favourite topic, the war on turr, 9/11, and WMD....(what the fuck does WMD have to do with a hurricane..?)..the only folks that will look on this favourably are is deeply disturbed base...

[boston bean]

26. I don't think he will get a very big bounce. Enough repugs need

to use the bathroom right now after hearing that Nagin and Blanco are gonna get 200 Billion to reconstruct. They are all vomiting their guts out!

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Well they have NO problem handing out $$ to reconstruct Iraq

This might actually get us out of Iraq. The Repugs will say we can't afford both and will pressure ** to wind down the war.

Not that I think he will get us out.. middle eastern oil and bases are his lifelong dream, but I think the Repugs will start asking for it.

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[ultraist]

29. He talked about poverty and racism?

:wow: That's a FIRST! (I missed the speech).

[Qibing Zero]

30. Bleh, it was contrived as all hell

He 'tried' to speak to everybody. Whoever wrote the speech decided to put a bullshit 'caring' tone out there with really cheesy lines, and discuss liberal things in business rhetoric. It was just beyond silly. Like: Hey I'm gonna cut taxes, and spend more money than ever, everyone should love me!

So, so warped.


Of course half of America won't be able to see through it, for whatever reason, so we're still fucked!

[GreenPartyVoter]

33. That's my point exactly.. I bet I can go to any number of messageboards &

fnd people gushing over it right now. :puke:

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[AirAmFan]

34. OF COURSE. Photo-ops work for awhile. But where are the DETAILS of

the "unprecedented" rebuilding effort he's proposed? Go to http://www.whitehouse.gov and you'll see NOTHING, not even the text of tonight's speech.

[qanda]

35. I'll tell you why you are wrong

Because the people at a forum I participate in LOVE Bush and are struggling to survive. Their husbands receive raises and they still end up $600 behind because of the increase in their healthcare premium. The gas increases are killing their budgets and winter isn't even here yet. Groceries are more expensive than ever and they can barely make it from paycheck to paycheck without falling behind. Nevermind emergency expenses that are not written in the budget. This scenario is being played out all over the country and it seems that not many are exempt. If Bush gets a few points rise out of this, it most certainly will be over by the time the next bill is due.

[GreenPartyVoter]

37. Yes, I agree it will be very short-lived

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[cynatnite]

38. small bounce...but short-lived, IMO n/t

[Walt Starr]

40. I predict a 3 to 10 point drop

He blew it.

Liberals will never trust him even though he made a liberal proposal.

Joe Barcalounger is skeptical as hell and will believe it when he sees it.

Freddy the Freeper is hoppin' mad because this speech sounded like liberal socialism with a touch of communism thrown in.

He's losing his base on this one.

[Soup Bean]

41. LOL...the "Era of Big Government is NOT Over"

Bush is bringing it back, in all the wrong ways.

[B Calm]

42. I predict calls for an impeachment vote coming from the right!

[Dinger]

43. Maybe, If You Consider A 15 Point Drop By Sunday A "Bounce"

Goddamn, I swear I can hear the fat lady singing something. Not sure what the name of the tune is though.

[babylonsister]

44. I didn't think so AT ALL until I saw the

survivors at the Astrodome who liked what he said, on Nightline.
I know he's full of shit.

[Carni]

48. God help me they fell for that line of shit?

My head may explode at any time now :(

[Bouncy Ball]

52. Think about this:

they could only find SEVEN people in the Astrodome who would give positive feedback.

SEVEN.

[Carni]

45. I agree and think he will get a bounce

It will take the dumb ass public a year to get the whole "KKK Karl is in charge or rebuilding NOLA"

They don't get that currently--they'll get it after the next house election but of course by then it will be too late.

The man is an F'ing joke but that whole hicksy corn pone God dissertation he just blew up their asses will gain him points with the clueless IMO.

I'm hanging it up and going into my cave to hibernate until this shit is over. Maybe the mice with the beaubonic plague will scamper in.

Put a fork in the US it's done...

[demo dutch]

46. Yep, Americans are just beyond incredibly stupid!!

[Carni]

47. I am calming down now after that steaming pile of shit spoke

My initial reaction was a little over the top...

I am listening to bozos like David Gergen now on cable acting kind of miffed (surprised the hell out of me)

Now I am wondering and rethinking what the public will actually think of that weird and contrary speech really means.

I have my fingers crossed that they aren't THAT stupid (I hope!)

[tom_paine]

49. The Busheviks will never be toast so long as voting is corrupt and rigged

http://www.harpers.org/ExcerptNoneDare.html

[GreenPartyVoter]

50. True enough. He IS toast, but he and his kind will own any office

they want no matter how much the people hate them.

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[Bouncy Ball]

51. I'm not so sure about that/

I'm already seeing jokes about it being his "Haunted Mansion" speech. People are laughing at it. And bushites are pissed at it.

No. No bump can come of this.

LOL

[crispini]

53. Hm. Will there be a bounce?

We didn't like it.

The old school repubs didn't like it.

The question then becomes, what did the middle think?

I bet they liked it. But will that be enough to give him a bump?