BREAKING:: A DIEBOLD INSIDER SPEAKS!

[CrackpotAmerica]

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DIEB-THROAT : 'Diebold System One of Greatest Threats Democracy Has Ever Known'
Identifies U.S. Homeland Security 'Cyber Alert' Prior to '04 Election Warning Votes Can be 'Modified Remotely' via 'Undocumented Backdoor' in Central Tabulator Software!

In exclusive stunning admissions to The BRAD BLOG some 11 months after the 2004 Presidential Election, a "Diebold Insider" is now finally speaking out for the first time about the...

In exclusive stunning admissions to The BRAD BLOG some 11 months after the 2004 Presidential Election, a "Diebold Insider" is now finally speaking out for the first time about the alarming security flaws within Diebold, Inc's electronic voting systems, software and machinery. The source is acknowledging that the company's "upper management" -- as well as "top government officials" -- were keenly aware of the "undocumented backdoor" in Diebold's main "GEM Central Tabulator" software well prior to the 2004 election. A branch of the Federal Government even posted a security warning on the Internet.

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Thanks RadioNewsAmerica. .

[rodeodance]

1. I am waiting to see this on the msm!

[0007]

6. That would be nice, but I'm not gonna hold my breath!

[Broken_Hero]

10. Yeah, no doubt.

[orpupilofnature57]

28. Ya, Champions of the people, or until Brittany has another kid.

[OKthatsIT]

42. We need a name, congressional alert, or msm publication

[OKthatsIT]

47. HERE IS THE 'US-CERT ALERT"

HERE IS THE 'US-CERT ALERT"

http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html#diebold

[OKthatsIT]

48. Everybody..save this 'alert page' before Chertoff has it removed

We need to save copies...if enough of us save it, it should be convincing enough.

[fearnobush]

55. Keep waiting - Rove would have them shot if even a word of it was

mentioned. Afterall, he has now recovered from his Kidney stone op so It's back to the all pro Bush team MSM.

[CrackpotAmerica]

2. Better stock up on canned goods then!

It'll be a long time!


:eyes:

[sasha031]

3. How about Amy Goodman

Democracy Now and AAR, it's a start.

[esvhicl]

26. Now that the damage is done this comes out?

It's a setup for 2008 when a dem will win by a landslide and the Repus will challenge it with something like this.

[Cobalt Violet]

14. I think I'll get some depends.

I'll probably be in my 90's before the MSM covers this one.

[we can do it]

4. Keeping my fingers crossed, but.....

It does say that even though they know the backdoor existed, they still don't have proof it was used.: :argh:

[Botany]

11. I don't know if they were Debold machines but in Miami County

OH 19,000 votes were loaded into the vote total after voting had stopped
and the machines were shut down ..... that had to be done @ the tabulator
level. Guess who had access to the central tabulators thanks to a
recently installed computer system? Ken Blackwell.

[IndyOp]

27. Yep - and a note for people who are just learning about

what a central tabulator is: A variety of different machines - punch cards, opscans, and DRE's all pass votes to/through the central tabulators -- so whoever has access to the Central Tabulators can alter vote tallies statewide.

:grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke:

[rzemanfl]

5. I was just about to post this. Beat me to it. Also at:

http://bradblog.com/

[rzemanfl]

9. Even if this is total bullshit except for the Homeland Security

cyber alert, you can bet the folks at Diebold are shitting bricks and looking askance at everybody.

[Laelth]

19. I wouldn't count on it.

So long as the Repuke party controls Ohio government and the Federal government (which they do, on both counts), then Diebold has nothing to worry about. Right now, they're merely smirking.

-Laelth

[loudsue]

7. It's about time! We need to blast this on the media blaster!

:kick::kick::kick:

[shaniqua6392]

8. When pigs fly

is when the MSM will talk about this one. If this person is on the up and up, he should go to someone in the MSM to get it out there.

[we can do it]

13. Thats a good point.

Enough is enough, already. If now isn't the time to bring the story out - then when is?

[Sabriel]

12. I'm sorry, but SO?

They could come out and spell out the flaws and violations on a huge (HUGH?) billboard, and it wouldn't matter.

How many things have we seen come and go that would be indictable under ANY other president? Diebold could use the blood of infants in its circuit boards and no one would say a thing.

[Wilms]

15. Election Reform, Fraud, & Related News Forum

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=203

[DubyaSux]

16. Wow...

....an anonymous person with a code name of DIEB-THROAT who not only hides who he is, but doesn't provide evidence.

For all you know, this could have been ME sending some bullcrap email. This might give Bev Harris an orgasm, but I'm not impressed. Brad BLog is the same guy who propped up some moron as proof he demo'd hacked Evoting software, only to fade off into obscurity because technically (from a software standpoint), the guy was less than a Bush-league (no pun intended) amateur.

As a fairly proficient software engineer with tons of experience in security systems, the first guy was barely qualified to run an install disk. Now, we have this guy who talks a good game with all the buzzwords, but provides no details. The "Cyber Security Alert" from US-CERT, is old busted news.

Evidence. I want to see evidence.

[Akoto]

17. I agree.

As nice as it would be to have someone willing to out this sort of corruption, he didn't even provide evidence of such a backdoor existing. The only way to find it would be to have someone get into the code and examine it line-by-line, which is something I doubt the government would sponsor at this point. You can't prosecute fraud if you've got nothing to prove it with.

[Occulus]

44. Doubt they would sponsor....?

The source code is not open to at-will public review! Even if you asked- THEY WOULDN'T LET YOU SEE IT!

Would you consider yourself to be subject to an an unpublished law? That's what this amounts to.

[jmowreader]

59. Figure on Diebold's having written spaghetti code

Diebold has been in the security business since 1859, and they excel at manufacturing solutions that please and comfort their customers. In the banking industry, they're unparalleled--go to your bank and you'll find the vault, the safe-deposit box storage area, and a lot of the time the automation systems like the teller terminals and ATMs are all Diebold. If I am a banker and I put a Diebold vault in my bank, I can put money in it with absolute assurance that when we open the bank in the morning, that money will still be in there.

Diebold Election Systems also specializes in pleasing and comforting its customers--all of whom are Republican secretaries of state. Diebold election equipment has proven very reliable at electing Republicans.

I figure that they had to have known that eventually, some unknown bug in the Diebold code would allow a Democrat to slip through to a very high office, and that soul might wonder "how, exactly, is this system so good at electing Republicans?" If said soul in very high office decides to subpoena the source for examination by competent engineers, it had to have been engineered for illegibility. So count on it being full of pointers to routines that don't do anything, subroutines that contain three times the number of lines of code needed to work, and all sorts of other programmer's anomalies. In other words, it was designed NOT to be human-readable, on purpose.

[OKthatsIT]

51. The "Cyber Security Alert" from US-CERT, is old busted news?

Look man, this is a documented ADMISSION of vulnerability through the tabulator transfer software.

That's a first!

[goodboy]

18. Andy said it...he said it all along. He's smiling from the great beyond!

Miss you Andy!

[Tinksrival]

20. Unfortunetly this is not breaking news.

This has been known since before the election. Just that no one cares but us and no one will listen.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

21. As long as GOP corporate...

...functionaries are collecting and counting the votes election outcomes will be predetermined.

[RaleighNCDUer]

41. It's been known, but not previously admitted to by someone on

the inside (if indeed this is the case). I hope this anonymous someone has documentation, and keeps it and himself safe till after the indictments are in.

[applegrove]

22. This is up there with "red alerts" on terrorism. Oh it is just a perfect

piece of news to get us all riled up and arguing amongst ourselves.

We need to see a study on the "exit polls" that are mysteriously wrong where-ever Bush goes. Even when Diebold is not there.

[bleever]

23. So very recommended.

"I have seen these systems connected to phone lines dozens of times with users gaining remote access," said DIEB-THROAT. "What I think we have here is a very serious problem. Remote access using phone lines eliminates any need for a conspiracy of hundreds to alter the outcome of an election. Diebold has held onto this theory for years, but Diebold has lied and has put national elections at risk. Remote access using this backdoor means that one malicious person can change the outcome of any Diebold election."

/snip/

"Our source expressed emphatically that the threat to both previous and future democratic elections in the United States are still at stake and feels that the problem will not be corrected until Congressional action forces the company to do so.

"In my opinion Diebold's election system is one of the greatest threats our democracy has ever known, and the only way this will be exposed is with a Congressional investigation with subpoenas of not just Diebold officials but Diebold technicians."



If we have our way, that's just what will happen eventually, no matter how long it takes.


NGU.

[CrackpotAmerica]

24. Remember How Crazy You Thought "Conspiracy Buffs" Were Long Ago?

It's funny looking back.


That is to say, looking back to before this great big conspiracy we are smack in the middle of today!

I better go buy another copy of Catcher in the Rye. I don't know why, I just feel I had better...

[goforit]

37. Hey....I was and am that person and am proud of it. But my pride

means not a damn thing when we are being held hostage by
Tyrranny.

The "problem" hasn't been solved.

[ktowntennesseedem]

25. Coming up: A Diebold insider speaks of problems w/election data.

Also, an update on the recovery efforts in the Katrina aftermath.

But first, we'll have the latest on Britany Spears' baby!!!

[feelthebreeze]

29. Kick... wake up people. This is the crux of the problem

[Kralizec]

30. The "backdoor" had been documented two years or more prior to the 2004

Presidential Election...

[natrat]

31. who would have thought the levy would break ?

who would have thought it could be easily hacked into
dont pay attention to exit polls
wmd
and on and on and on

[peace_on_earth]

32. I've been following Bradblog since the '04 election

Brad Friedman has ALWAYS vetted his sources before going public. He makes sure that whatever he's got can be confirmed, and he always requests opposing evidence on stories he's running with, in case there's something that refutes (i.e., the Clint Curtis story--go to Bradblog.com to see more about the programmer who was asked by Rep. Tom Feeney to create vote switching software). He is an excellent blogger journalist who makes sure that whatever he runs with is water-tight.

And knowing Brad's sense of humor, I'm sure HE made up DIEB-THROAT, not the source.

Let's just see where this takes us, okay? Give these guys a little time to show what they've got.

[newyawker99]

62. Hi peace_on_earth!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[peace_on_earth]

63. Thanks again! Fellow New Yawker here...

[NVMojo]

33. It's not just Diebold, it's Sequoia and the other one too ...

[steve2470]

34. kick nt

[Miss Chybil]

35. Is it time for the manna to start falling?

Have we been starved for the truth long enough? God, I hope this is it.

[progressoid]

36. Whoa there. Lets not all get our undies in a bunch.

For any of this to have any impact, this person is going to have to do more than talk to a web blog. She/He is going to have to cough up some concrete evidence. There isn't much in that article that we didn't already suspect.

"SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

On edit: This quote was a little disturbing, "A very serious problem...one malicious person can change the outcome of any Diebold election" Interesting how it's called a DIEBOLD election...

[still_one]

38. in addition it will require or representatives to do their jobs

[applegrove]

39. Nothing new. Let's talk about the speech!

[whalerider55]

40. for what it's worth-

i just checked the US CERT website referenced in the article, and did not find a Cyber-Security alert listed for August 4 2004 that had anything to do with. my tin foil hat says it musta been scrubbed, but i guess i'll have to wait to see what radfio-free has to say about it.

whalerider

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

43. Diebold's mandate...

...http://www.karlandkinggeorge.com/Diebolds_Mandate.html

[OKthatsIT]

45. The Feds know about the backdoor. Criminal investigations

into Chinese Trojans have brought the Feds into play with Microsoft Security...let it be known, the investigators know the WH knows of the tabulator vulnerability.

But the Feds need the whistleblower...if they're to go after the criminal backdrop. They know Blackwell had access to those backdoor tabulators, too.

[Liberal Veteran]

46. Nobody is going to believe this shit until....

....Osama bin Laden or Britney Spears ends up winning the presidential election due to someone deliberately hacking the system to prove it is flawed.

[gtar100]

49. What a great idea!!

Any highly intelligent hackers listening, wishing to do good rather than evil with your nefarious skills...by all means...target 2006. How 'bout making the president of France win? That'll make 'em choke.

[freedomfries]

50. KICK

[buddysmellgood]

52. If the insider comes out, which he must in order for this to get legs, he

will be attacked and smeared by Rovian freaks. We can only hope that he will come out and that the damage to Bush will prevent the smear from being effective.

[Carolab]

53. This is HUGE. Assuming Conyers knows? n/t

[OKthatsIT]

54. Its new...but the US-CERT Alert on Diebold is dated

September 1 through September 7, 2004

Check it out: http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/bulletins/SB04-252.html#diebold

[Name removed]

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[OKthatsIT]

57. Really...I know I didnt know about this security 'ALERT listing'

I find it amazing that they have this 'list' online.

[cthrumatrix]

58. MSM has zero freedom to cover truth in some areas -- c'mon Dobbs say

something...

Or are you afraid?

[AzDar]

60. KIck! (Britney for President) n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

61. kick

[Vox_Reason]

64. My fave link on this issue:

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/voter_fraud.html

[kittenpants]

65. Additional info from a security analyst

I posted this in another thread, but I'm not sure what happened to that one:

This is not your run-of-the-mill mistake in coding vulnerability that we see all the time from Microsoft and the like. This is a backdoor account. A backdoor account is not a mistake. It is purposely placed in code so the developer, or anyone that they choose to inform, can later gain access to the system and perform any activities they choose. As another note regarding the US-Cert alert, look at the last 2 lines:

"No workaround or patch available at time of publishing.

We are not aware of any exploits for this vulnerability."

First, the mere fact that they know that the backdoor account exists, there MUST obviously be a fix - REMOVING THE ACCOUNT FROM THE CODE.

Secondly, there is no exploit for this vulnerability because NO EXPLOIT IS NEEDED. It is not a bug that needs exploiting. It only requires a user to use the account that was created!

Mr. Kittenpants