why can't all you poor black folks be more like Condi?

[mopaul]

she's so articulate, and so republican and so supportive of white supremacy, even though she's black, why can't you all be more like her?

[ladylibertee]

1. WHO? OH ,REINCARNATED AUNT JEMIMAH? NO THANKS

[hwmnbn]

2. because most of them have soul........

and consciences.

[ladylibertee]

3. IS DONT KNO NUTTIN BOUT RUNNIN NO KUNTRY

[nofurylike]

5. :) good one. eom

[tx_dem41]

62. Unbelievable......I need to check what forum I'm on again. n/t

[silverojo]

4. Yes, every black woman should be so charming....

Looks as if she's been taking lessons from Snarling Dick Cheney:

[mopaul]

6. ACK!!!!!

[zippy890]

7. HA HA HA HA ! Snarl-O-Mania!

Good catch on the expressions -- Condi is looking like Cheney with that look!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[ladylibertee]

22. ARE THEY GROWLING, OR TRYING TO BE SEXY? HAHA

[applegrove]

8. I have never seen so much 'racist type expressions' on the DU as

I have in the last few weeks.

The issue of Americans and race is not about saying slurs to Rice - it is about admitting American Myths need a little more truth added. And people need to either 'get with their soul' and admit truths & history or Americans will keep repeating the same mistakes again and again. And end up with Government's like the ones they have now - who let them act out on baser instincts.

Is George Bush the puppet that is the face of the neocons? Or did they just tap into what was already lurking under the surface.

Doesn't matter which - people need to get busy.

I don't think that hating Rice is fine - but why would you act out on the color of her skin? Why not just ask questions about the things she represents and does for her "husband".

I swear. It seems Bush White House got in trouble and immediately a whole pile of new DUers signed up who have issues with racist language.

[mopaul]

9. but---it's O.K. to be a racist under bush

git with the program

[applegrove]

11. It is not alright. You have no idea who is online. For me - I find it

offensive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I'm Not A Fan Of Rice Or The Neocon Agenda

but what does that have to with the color of her skin?


She has just as much right to labor under in what is my opinion a false assumption than any white person, an Asian person, etcetera.....

[applegrove]

15. Right. You don't attack people for what they cannot change about

themselves - unless that very thing is what makes them attack, assault, harrass you. And color of skin never made anybody do anything.

You discuss their chosen behavior. If you disagree or find them dangerous. Or if they are ramming something down your throat!

[chalky]

25. FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, PEOPLE!

The post was NOT directed at Condi. The post WAS a swipe at the country-club bigotry voiced every day by the Barbara Bushes of the world.

Guess you have to have been a recipient of those type of comments to get where mopaul headed....

[ladylibertee]

26. BABE, NOONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT HER COLOR.I'M HER COLOR

IZ A WUZ JUZ IMPASYZIN DAT SHEZ ACKIN LIKE A SELL OUT UNCLE TOM . DATS ALL .HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[applegrove]

45. Again - it has nothing to do with Condi. It is about the words used.

I hate slurs. Especially when i don't know where they are coming from. Some people don't know any better. That still annoys. Some people do.

I don't care who you were aping. Did we all go "poo" yesterday when we talked about 'Bush's bathroom break'?

[tx_dem41]

65. I agree with you. n/t

[chalky]

14. pssst...mopaul...

add a sarcasm smilie. someone doesn't "get" your humor.

[applegrove]

16. You could just email him - no need then to post pssst. Unless he/she

has you blocked already.

[chalky]

17. I see someone doesn't "get" MY humor, either.

n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Isn't It Racist To Assume African Americans Have To Act A Certain

Way To Be Authentically "Black"?


Mo has a good heart and I know he wasn't intending to be racist but to say black folks have to act a certain way to be black is patronizing and condescending....



Condi's politics suck but how can she believe in white supremacy when her whole life story is a rejection of it.... She has a PHD... She speaks four or five languages...... She plays classical piano...... She's superior to just about every white person she meets.....

[chalky]

19. Errr...actually, SHE "believes" she's superior to EVERYONE she meets.

white OR black and any color in between.
And SHE would be WRONG in that belief.

There now....see how much fun it is to point out other people's tiny bigotries? :-)

eta: Oh, and by the way--mopaul? was not suggesting that black people act a certain way. mopaul was subtly mocking that genteel bias that we encounter every day from the Barbara Bushes of the world.
Guess it was a little TOO subtle, huh?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Barbara Bush's Comments Were Flat Out Racist....

I just have a problem with foks who think because you are a certain race you have to act a certain way...


The overachieving Asian...


The tightey-whitey.....


The hip black man......


Etcetera......

[chalky]

29. Who's suggesting ANYONE has to act a certain way?

Go back and read my post. Especially the last part.

[applegrove]

32. The difference with Rice is that they use her race when conveting

people to their right wing version of "reality". They use it every day. They talk about it all the time. So - since they have politicized it - talking about her positions & how her ethnic background is an issue is fine.

That doesn't mean you talk about stereotypical things & slurs. That just means we can discuss racism, classism, & Rice are open for discussion.

Especially since it look like America will finally be discussing race & the American soul openly as a result. Americans need to get to know themselves. And be open. And Rice will naturally be a part of the discussion. As will Bush and his positions on class & race. As will leaders from all walks.

[chalky]

37. Let's try this again: Could you PLEASE stop making this about Condi?

Or rather...please stop turning a gentle swipe at a very sensitive issue (that you obviously have no knowledge of), into some crusading, apologistic, "oooh, I'm not racist...see, I'm defending her AGAINST racism" kind of thread???

We get it. You don't like racism.

Newsflash--We don't either.

Thanks so much for your attention to this matter.

[applegrove]

41. Like i said - it isn't the topic - it is the slurs. Put them in quotes.

[chalky]

48. Point out my slurs, please.

I'll gladly go back and edit in quotes.

[applegrove]

50. I whined before you joined the thread.

[chalky]

52. And yet you're telling me to put my slurs in quotes.

That was my post you were responding to, wasn't it?

[applegrove]

55. You responded to me first.

[chalky]

63. Actually, on this question I replied to mopaul. YOU so helpfully

jumped in and suggested that he had me on "ignore".

Thanks, by the way, for assuming that I was too stupid to know about that feature. I live to be patronized.

[applegrove]

73. I was kidding. Obvious that you were joking. I replied in joking -

and do you see how things can easily be taken out of context if one person doesn't know another?

That is what offends me about slurs. But that wasn't you. Again - my worry is context & habit that many more people than just these threaders are getting into.

I've alerted Admin before. They seem to get the joke and not be worried or offended. Perhaps I should get over myself.

[ladylibertee]

39. Yes, we in the Black Community call that "Uncle Tom"or "token black"

[applegrove]

28. Subtlety or sarcasm do not translate on the DU when race is the issue.

It is hard enough when one is being obviously sarcastic on easier topics than race - to not get trapped in your words. So there is a smilie to help with sarcastic remarks. And quotes too. But mimicking racism & slurs just doesn't translate - even when it seems obvious the intention is to mock racists & RWingnuts & white fear of black crime that the Bush WH seems to enjoy in their base when it is convenient.

[chalky]

31. And again...

Guess you have to have been a recipient of those type of comments to get where mopaul headed....

[applegrove]

35. I know he was trying to make a point. I know i interfered. Ahhhhhhhhh!

There has to be a way we don't repeat slurs when we make points about the racists & cl assist elites. Once fine. But it is a sudden epidemic of unquoted "slurs" people are using to highlight racism.

And it feels bad.

And it teaches hate.

Admin may not agree with me.

i'm just saying..

[ladylibertee]

40. Do you like her or something? Ok I'm done hehehehehe

[applegrove]

42. No I don't like her . I am tired of the sea of slurs that accompany the

discussion of race.

Oh I give up!

[chalky]

46. The "sea of slurs"? Very alliterative. Now point them out.

I've already tried to explain the point behind the OP, so that one doesn't count.

[applegrove]

47. I am talking about multiple threads.

[chalky]

51. Oh. I see. We get hammered because you're pissed at someone else.

Nice.

[applegrove]

53. Read the first line on my first post on this thread. You had not even

shown up. Nighy night.

[chalky]

57. Oh, I read your first line. In fact, your first post was what prompted

me to explain mopaul's point.

But you didn't want to hear the explanation. You didn't even want to acknowledge that explanation.

You wanted to make the post about something else entirely. And suddenly you're admitting that you're lashing out at every post in every other thread that you had issue with. Without saying doodly about the point behind mopaul's post.

And that's what pissed ME off.

Why can't you acknowledge that point? Isn't it good enough for you?
Isn't that kind of racism sexy enough for you?

[applegrove]

75. I have no problem with the content. I didn't doubt for a second the

intention was to mock the racist classists.

But so easy to be understood. And so why bother with the Slurs.

The point of the post just gets lost.

[ladylibertee]

THANK YOU

[applegrove]

24. I am not taking issue with people discussing Rice. She was actually

out buying shoes. She did help put Bolton at the UN to undo it all.

She has been a very busy person. Hell - the flies outside my window could have a problem with her and that is fine.

I just don't appreciate the language going around the DU these days. Seems to me that people all of a sudden feel free to use slurs as long as they mean it in satire.

As to her ethnic heritage? Well she is fulfilling a political role using that ethnic heritage. So - since the WH talks about it again and again to people they try to convert to neoconism...all the while they vet certain electoral districts (for one intimidation or anther) on the basis of the color of that district - well - I think that pretty much means that we can ask & discuss issues of racism within her party & the role she plays. In the same way we could ask Bush - since he brings it up all the time too. And since she will not take our calls, we can discuss the issue of race & her on this site.

Just stop it with the slur language.

[chalky]

27. For the last time: THIS IS NOT. ABOUT. CONDI.

Jeeeeezus.

[ladylibertee]

30. YES, THATS WHY I AS A BLACK PERSON GET PISSED OFF WHEN

SOMEONE ELSE GETS PISSED OFF WHEN I MAKE FUN OF THE STEREOTYPE AS IF...I'M BEING RACIAL.N E W S F L A S H !!!!!!BLACKS DO NOT TALK LIKE STUPID ASS IGNORANT FOOLS./ IZ A TANKS YOUS BEDDEY MUCH:sarcasm:

[applegrove]

36. Well I am white & it offends me! could they not use Quotes?

[chalky]

43. Sorry to rock your world by exposing you to the CRAP we have to hear

EVERY. DAMN. DAY.

If it makes you feel any better, it offends us too.

[ladylibertee]

44. Just for you sweetheart.....

" hi's uh myza name iz uh condoleeza ryyyycce iz bush howse nirrr."
Is that better? :shrug:

[applegrove]

49. I seem to be getting acclimated. Not what I had in mind.

[ladylibertee]

54. Your White? And your mad? Someone told me that's like guilt

[applegrove]

56. When you feel offense - do you feel guilt? I'm most often offended

when i feel offended.

[chalky]

58. That offense of yours need to be voiced in threads that are actually ABOUT

Condi's skin color.

I've already explained, and explained, and explained the point of the post.

You don't want to hear it. Now THAT Says worlds to me.

[ladylibertee]

I AM condi's skin color...I'm making fun of speech, not color....

What ticks me off is I'm purposly talking like a retarfed fool and you think I'm being offessive to black's.That tells me, you think we "are" that stupid. THAT speaks worlds to ME .

[ladylibertee]

60. I AM condi's skin color...I'm making fun of speech, not color....

What ticks me off is I'm purposly taking like a retarfed fool and you think I'm being offessive to black's.That tells me, you think we "are" that stupid. THAT speaks worlds to ME .

[ladylibertee]

59. No, I'm black.I just get mad

[ProfessorGAC]

33. Have You Read Her Thesis?

I have. The Ph.D. was awarded because she stayed in school long enough. There is no "there" there. She is not especially bright, insightful, or learned. Don't let letters after someone's name delude you into believing what they aren't.
The Professor

[tx_dem41]

64. It appears you have fallen right in line with it.

Or have you always been this way?

[ladylibertee]

23. FIRST OF ALL, I'M BLACK & I DON'T LIKE SELL OUTS!!! NOW...

IF YOU ARE NOT BLACK, AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.....LEARN SOME BLACK HISTORY. GOOGLE "UNCLE TOM'S CABIN"

[applegrove]

38. I have no problem with discussing Rice & Race. That is an open

discussion. I don't like slurs!

[chalky]

10. 'Cause Ferragamo is out of my price range. And besides

this:



plus my feet




equals this:

[B Calm]

13. So many oil tankers to name, step up and get an oil tanker..

[elehhhhna]

20. Is a poor black person insults North Korea, does kim jong hear it?

[ladylibertee]

34. HOPEFULLY NOT CUZ HE MIGHT DROP A BOMB ON EM HEHEHE

[tx_dem41]

61. Well, this thread about makes it a certainty. Racism is not a monopoly...

of a particular party or ideology. It crosses them all.

Disgusting thread.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

66. Why Can't We All Get Along?

nt

[tx_dem41]

69. I have no idea, DSB.

Thanks for fighting it though. I, for one, appreciate it.

[chalky]

67. Tell me tx_dem: What are YOU seeing in this thread?

I promise not to flame. I'm genuinely curious in what's disgusting you here.

What I'm seeing is a sad kind of Rorschach test who's interpretation is cleanly divided among racial lines.
Sad.

[tx_dem41]

68. People that will "sell out" their core principles for political power....

I'm seeing people that are sooo full of hatred that they are forgetting who they are or what they stand for (if they ever did know).

Racism...it knows no party, ideological, ethnic or racial boundaries.

[chalky]

70. And can you explain the "sell out" part you're seeing?

It's beginning to look like "sell out" has two different interpretations--depending which side of the color line you're on.

[tx_dem41]

71. Maybe that's your problem then. You see two different interpretations...

I see one.

[chalky]

72. Then please describe that "one".

n/t

[Name removed]

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[Moderator]

76. Locking....

flamebait and this thread has run its course.