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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:26 AM
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First the 'bathroom break' photo and now this. M$M not helping Jr.'s image
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:56 AM by txindy
Did someone desperately trying to raise his poll numbers actually address the nation in a misbuttoned shirt last night?! Tell me I'm not seeing this properly. Even Junior isn't this dense - is he? Did the little twit's handlers let him go out on live TV with the second button of his shirt buttoned into the third buttonhole?

Adding: This is about credibility at this stage and someone who can't even dress himself - or find people to ensure that someone dresses him - has none, IMO. (Oops, spelling. )



http://www.decaturdaily.com.nyud.net:8090/decaturdaily/news/050916/bush1A.jpg
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:28 AM
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1. Here's more proof...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:30 AM
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6. Tough call . . . could just be a combination of camera angle, shadows
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:31 AM by ET Awful
and lighting.

Let's see some captures from different times during the speech to compare.

It looks like he screwed the pooch to me, but I'm not 100% sure.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:39 AM
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20. No, not really
Just measure the amount of cloth between the top button and either collar. Dubya buttoned himself in the dark, or he was fried, or nervous, or just plain dumb...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:57 AM
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35. After careful examination, I'm convinced :)
I presented the photo to a mother of two young boys for evaluation, and let her be the final arbiter :evilgrin:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:03 AM
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38. LOL! That's why we start them out young.
From preschool days on, it's been, "Son, start at the bottom and work your way up. You won't have to do it twice, that way."

Unfortunately for Junior, Babs never took that time with him and it seems his staff just doesn't care any more. Either that or no one dares tell him the truth about ANYTHING. :shrug: "You tell him!" "Not me! YOU tell him!" "UH-UH!! YOU!!" "Oops. Too late." :rofl:

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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:05 AM
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40. He comes from money, he's NEVER had to start at the bottom and
work his way up for anything, why start with something as mundane as a shirt?
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:02 AM
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50. LOL
:spray:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:25 AM
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43. mama must be out of town.....
anyone get a look at his shoelaces? or does he wear loafers?! bwahaha
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:36 AM
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14. Thanks! That makes it a lot clearer
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 11:38 AM
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53. Oh this is too weird...
The photo is no longer available via ImageShack... Is this the work of Rover???
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 12:50 PM
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54. LOL!
It just used up too much bandwidth, is all. It needs to be saved to another file and re-linked.
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:07 PM
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55. Whew...someone else found it again...
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madame defarge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:07 PM
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56. Check here for the photo...
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:28 AM
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To me, it looks just
overstarched & a little cock-eyed -- and the shirt looks that way too... ;)
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:28 AM
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2. It looks right to me..
only one button left at the top. Its just a badly cut shirt.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:31 AM
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7. Yeah. Like the bluebloods would wear "a badly cut shirt."
:rofl:

NGU.


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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:33 AM
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12. Possibly ...
If they are trying to convince a "pissed off" nation that they are a hard workin' regular guy
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:39 AM
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18. Yeah, I'd pick an Oxford shirt to do that.
:eyes:

NGU.


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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:19 AM
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42. Doesn't he have a valet or manservant or someone
who dresses him?
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:30 AM
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45. They'll probably blame this on the WH tailor, too.
Just as they did with the 'bulge' on his back during the debates. They pawned it off on the tailor, calling it a 'poorly-fitted suit'. :eyes:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:19 AM
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51. It matched the eerie lighting, dontchaknow.
'Cause that's important in KKKarl's world of subliminal manipulation. I think it just made everyone watching uniformly depressed and angry. Until we noticed his shirt buttons. ;)
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:34 AM
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13. Look at post #1, it's a bit clearer in that photo
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:34 AM by txindy
I check for exactly this in the mornings when my kids wear button-down shirts to school. I've seen this too many times in the past to not recognize (or suspect) it. However, even little kids know how to prevent this from happening! :rofl:
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:49 AM
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31. Right. You kind of develop a radar for this button error.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:45 AM
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29. badly cut, just like
the one he wore in the debate that made that awful bump. nice to see that he is as stupid and wasteful with his own money as he is with ours.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:47 PM
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59. no way that preppy snob has ever even TOUCHED a badly cut shirt
please.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:29 AM
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3. Nice catch tex! You should email this to Stephanie Miller's show.
:hi:

NGU.


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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:38 AM
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17. Saw it last night in the photos, but thought, 'Nooooo, surely not!"
Yet there it was, again, this morning. NGU, for sure!

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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:29 AM
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4. Looks like it to me, too.
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:30 AM by Alamom
:rofl:

Edit: laughing hysterically, can't spell rofl
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:29 AM
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5. I noticed it, too.
It's definitely misbuttoned, IMO. What a fucking twit this guy is.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:31 AM
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8. Thought the shirt looked strange,
missed the button. I thought he lost his neck--perhaps a bullet proof vest under the shirt. It looks too small for him. Even us poor working stiffs can button out shirts...and we don't have someone to dress us for every occasion.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:41 AM
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25. I'm with you......
this is exactly what went through my mind. I even asked aloud where his neck went to.


and yes - i did tune in despite saying i wouldn't. they cut right to him after survivor.


but after about 5 minutes of him telling me what Anderson Cooper had told me around 7 i clicked him off and went to bed.



it's a damn shame our president needs to ask if he can pee and can't even button his shirt straight.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:31 AM
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9. LOL! Hadn't noticed it earlier, but I think you're right.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:31 AM
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10. Don't see it
If it's off, its probably because of the kevlar vest he wears under it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:33 AM
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11. And would it have killed him to put on a tie and suit coat?
Surely he wasn't trying to project the image that he was taking time out from helping the real relief workers to give his little address, was he? I know savvy four-year-olds who wouldn't have been fooled by that bit of stage managed chicanery, but no doubt it played well with Bush's base: The haves, the have-mores, and the too stupid to be out in public without accompaniment.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:37 AM
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15. He was trying to look
like a 'regular' guy... he only wears his expensive designer suits when the poor folks aren't watching
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:35 AM
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47. yeah the disheveled look of someone who has had a bunch of beers
er, I mean the kind of guy you would like to have beers with.
:beer:
Just a regular Joe.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 04:27 PM
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60. as if he'd just stumbled in after a gruelling day fixing the city's pumps?
And that advance shot of him scurrying across the lawn? Weird.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:37 AM
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16. Okay...I'm slow....how is it misbuttoned?
The "unused" button on his right would appear to be the button that you would use when wearing a tie (which he isn't). It's common on dress shirts.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:39 AM
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19. Too many buttonholes, not too many buttons
the first reply shows a better photo
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:45 AM
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28. I see what you're talking about....
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 08:45 AM by tx_dem41
but it would be worse looking than it is if that were the case. To me it looks like a poorly made shirt.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:42 AM
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26. The second button is in the third buttonhole.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:40 AM
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21. Definitely misbuttoned. Just saw a video clip of the speech on CNN,
and it was more obvious there.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:40 AM
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22. We were talking about that last night here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4789414I haven't seen a still photo of it yet, but they did show a few shots from the side last night and it sure looked like he had another HUGE back bulge last night. Not just a bulge, but a almost pointy looking lump in the middle of his back.

I was wondering if the mis-button was on purpose to accommodate what ever that "thing" was on his back last night.

Anybody have one of those side shots?
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:44 AM
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27. That side shot was in a thread here at DU last night-huge bulge (n/t)
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:40 AM
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23. Good freaking grief. They dressed him so fast so the sweat
would not show up...and Karen and Karl could not button his shirt right. I thought the collar thing looked wierd....good catch!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:41 AM
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24. It looks misbuttoned. And why wear a vest under? his head's exposed
he might have one of his prompting devices under his shirt, though a big one that has a greater range because he is far from any hidden prompting trailer or room, hence its large size
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:48 AM
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30. He is
embarrassed to say it just a poorly tailored shirt.
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MidnightWind Donating Member (428 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:51 AM
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32. Probably had a quickie with Condi
right before the speech.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:53 AM
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33. oh good lord I think you're right!
incredible!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:53 AM
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34. I think you're onto something. Thought his shirt looked odd last night,
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 09:00 AM by KoKo01
too something seemed a little "off" about it. It could very well be a misbutton or that his neck is too short for a wide collar shirt and so the collar is lying more flat than it should. The shirt looks too large for him, also. The shoulders are hanging off.

Definitely looks like there's more fabric on his left where the button hole is than there should be, though. :D
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 08:58 AM
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36. He must have been also been wearing a bulky bullet proof vest.
That in combination with that awful shirt made him look like a schlump.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:02 AM
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37. You're right! Someone mentioned his shirt looking funny last nite, and I
just blew it off, thinking "just the back bulge" for our moral, cheating, stammering stuttering, idiot for a pretzeldent..
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:05 AM
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39. Condi buttoned him correctly- but did she zip his fly?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:09 AM
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41. When we need leadership the most, we get someone not as competent
When we need leadership the most, we get someone not as competent as a Kindergardener. Ok, I understand his daddy’s been able to bail him out of every single mess his whole life – Bush 41 only served 1 term, he’s constitutionally eligible to serve another – at this point, I’d even take Daddy stepping in once again to dig us out of these shitholes Jr keeps creating.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:29 AM
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44. When I first turned him on last night
It was obvious that the shirt didn't fit right and was scrunched up around his neck. I never put 2 and 2 together until here.
:rofl:

It looks baggy yet at the same time tight in spots. It really made him look pretzelduncel. :dunce:
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:33 AM
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46. Olberman said it's like Howard Dean's doing Bush's advance work
I'm beginning to believe it.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 09:46 AM
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48. Like the rest of us poor working stiffs, he has his sleeves rolled up,
ready to get to work rebuilding the ravaged south. Just like us, he occasionally buttons up wrong. But the no-neck bulges? Bullet proof, just in case they let anyone within range of him. Looks a little lonely in front of the Cathedral. Subliminal message, God is with him. Yeah!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:00 AM
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49. I've got to go with the earlier opinions on the bizarre lighting
Junior looks like he's standing in front of The Haunted Mansion at Disneyworld. The way they lit the cathedral makes the spires disappear in some shots. It's...spooky and silly, all at once. Kind of like Junior, himself.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 10:21 AM
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52. His handlers are too afraid to tell him he looks like a wimpy joke. nt
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:36 PM
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57. I posted on this in another thread
Edited on Fri Sep-16-05 03:42 PM by Kelvin Mace
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4795247&mesg_id=4795247

And included this close up which makes it easier to see:



It is very obviuous if you note the length of the left edge of the short to the right edge.

I've seen enough kids misbutton shirts and that is not an optical illusion,
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-05 03:45 PM
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58. does anyone have the photo of someone zipping his fly for him?
that is a classic.
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