Anthrax Investigation Stymied and Agents Sued

[DemonFighterLives]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/17/politics/17anthrax.html?pagewanted=all&oref=login

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WASHINGTON, Sept. 15 - Richard L. Lambert, the F.B.I. inspector in charge of the investigation of the deadly anthrax letters of 2001, testified under oath for five hours last month about the case.

But Mr. Lambert was not testifying in a criminal trial. He and his teams of F.B.I. agents and postal inspectors have not found the culprit. Instead, he and six other F.B.I. and Justice Department officials have been forced to give depositions in a suit over news media leaks filed by Dr. Steven J. Hatfill, the former Army biodefense expert who was under intensive scrutiny for months.

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The failure to solve the case that the authorities call "Amerithrax" is a grave disappointment for the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Postal Inspection Service, the investigative arm of the Postal Service. The letters were the first major bioterrorist attack in American history and killed five people, sickened 17 others, temporarily crippled mail service and forced the evacuation of federal buildings, including Senate offices and the Supreme Court


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Two years ago, Dr. Hatfill sued the bureau and the Justice Department, saying leaks to the news media about him and the public description of him by Attorney General John Ashcroft as a "person of interest" in the case had destroyed his reputation.

[wakeme2008]

1. Good for Dr. Hatfill

FBI has failed again.

[chelsea0011]

2. Why the hell can't they solve this case? Everything I've ever read

in this case is that it was a very high grade strain, extremely hard to duplicate with expertise. They have limited the strain to a very few labs and few people who could be involved. at this point I would say the agencies are involved are either incompetent or maybe they would just not like to solve this. I think homegrown terrorism is not something the administration would like to explain.

[katsy]

4. High grade?

As in military grade?

[DemonFighterLives]

8. Yes it was

Very few locations could have produced it and it was basically tracked to a strain used at a military installation. Ames Strain.

[Minstrel Boy]

10. "Anthrax matches Army spores"

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/anthraxmatchesarmyspores.html

"Army lab eyed as anthrax source"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/06/28/national/main513694.shtml

[katsy]

15. That's our answer.

Investigation closed... it's a cover up.

:grr:

[DemonFighterLives]

5. I can't seem to find the link now, but one site had a picture of a

potential scientist. I thought it was on What Really Happened.com.
Here is a link chock full of the anthrax stuff.
I really don't think the current regime in interested in solving it.
http://www.fas.org/bwc/news/anthraxreport.htm

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Of course they aren't

Why would they?

[DemonFighterLives]

39. Heck the questions never even come up

No one dares to question dubco. :hi:

[pitohui]

20. this is how they are going to pay off the killer

the evidence is overwhelming aga. mr. hatfill, already proven to have faked his credentials to get access to classified disease materials, remember when he used to be "doctor" hatfill?

they tried to reward him w. a high-paying job at lsu school of terrorism, lsu quickly found out he had no credentials & ran him out of town

instead of arresting him

they will now "lose" this lawsuit

the taxpayer will end up paying this dude millions for killing 5 of us and permanently injuring several others

it is truly sick

the stink of payola is truly strong in the air in this case

[DemonFighterLives]

28. Overwhelming against Hatfill?

I'd be very interested in hearing about that. I take him as an honest man who was hoped to be the patsy.
Links?

[wakeme2008]

30. He is still Doctor read the OP nt

[rzemanfl]

3. What has always bothered me about this is that I was sure

BushCo would use the anthrax attacks as his reason for the Iraq War. It would have been so much easier to fake than the WMD proved to be. Plus they had the weird coincidence of Atta having lived and rented planes so close to where the first guy to die lived and worked. There must be something that clearly ties the anthrax to the U.S. or another country (Saudi Arabia?)that has caused them to shove the whole thing into the memory hole.

Life in BushWorld is so hard on the brain.

[DemonFighterLives]

6. My opinion was that it was used to keep people in terror

and to keep us from wondering what happened to the WTC towers and on that day.
I was following this very closely on another site, but don't know if I can find all of my research. If you search for the mission micobiologists, you will find some very interesting stuff. About a dozen the last I knew were suicided after the mailings.

There was a rash of stuff like this after 9/11. Remember the mailbox bomber? Serial sniper? Either dubby unleashed the minions from hell or else it was part of his plan to become Dictator.

[DemonFighterLives]

29. I meant Missing Microbiologists and not Mission

If you google Missing Microbiologists you will get stories about 5 and up to 11 or more who died shortly after 9/11.
Here is a link:
http://seekers.100megs6.com/scientists.htm

Amd another:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/scientists.htm
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List of murdered scientists..
#!.dec. 2001.. Dr. David Schwartz.. murdered at home.. #2 Dr Benito Que... dead in the street...3 Dr.Set Van Nguyen..dead in airlock refrigerator. 4 DR.Don Wiley.. vanished.. car abandoned...5 Dr. Vladimer Pasechnik Dead near his home. ..... Feb. 2002...6 Dr. Ian Langford .Russian.. beaten to death in his home...7. DR. V Korshunov... Russian..head bashed in... 8 Dr A Bushlinski Russian.. murdered.. 9.. Dr. I Glebov.. Russian.. Bandit attack.... Also reported that in plane from Isreal to Russia 4 or 5 microbiologists were aboard.. The plane that crashed in the sea near Russia.. that was brought down by missle.. Their names not published.. (that I know of )....
What did these scientists know that was so important that they had to be silenced..????.

And Rense:

http://www.rense.com/general18/five.htm



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[alfredo]

7. Look at the targets, and you will find the

one's behind the murders.

the guy at the tabloid had published some unflattering photos of the bush twins. The rest were Democratic lawmakers and the "liberal media."

the investigation died when the evidence started pointing to the government.

[DemonFighterLives]

9. Yes

Any special tabloid you had in mind? It really served to stifle dissent among the democrats none of which wanted to be Wellstoned. They counted their blessings and now hold their tails firmly between their legs.

[Karenina]

12. National Enquirer IIRC.

[pitohui]

21. it was their sister publication the Sun

both published in the same bldg & v. similar in content & look at that time (the Sun is more downmarket now) so easy to confuse to the two

[Minstrel Boy]

11. Democratic lawmakers who wanted a hard look at the Patriot Act.

And who changed their tune after their mail arrived.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. That tells all

[rzemanfl]

13. If you wanted to kill someone in Congress, wouldn't it be easier

to put some spores on a vent in their car than to mail the stuff?

This is all a vast puzzle with half the pieces suppressed.

[Minstrel Boy]

14. The point wasn't to kill Congressmen, it was to compound national trauma

and to cow congress into fast-tracking the Patriot Act.

[DemonFighterLives]

16. You know the score

I am thrilled to see you here! :bounce:
It also served to keep us from studying too closely the 9/11 events. After all, with all the different terrors, and horrors happening, who could question the illegal regime.

Edit: to make it coherent :dunce:

[rzemanfl]

18. And having people die of anthrax placed on/in their cars wouldn't

do that? You could be right, I just don't know what to think.

[progressivebydesign]

22. There are cases where you want to take out one or two people..

but you use a major distribution to make it look random. Isn't that what we've discussed before? It may have been intended to kill one person, but made to look like a widescale terror attack. Will we ever know?

[alfredo]

25. Really worked.

You noticed when questions were being asked about why Dems were targetted, Bill Frist had an "Anthrax scare."

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. They killed two birds with one stone by mailing the anthrax

to the Senators. They were able to terrify a lot of people and then had an excuse to shut down their office building for months. You don't think they only looked for anthrax when they 'cleaned' the building now do you?

[Hubert Flottz]

32. Here is the motive...

Government Buys Cipro For Reduced Price
Bayer To Sell Drug For 95 Cents Per Tablet

Bayer agreed to sell the government 100 million pills at 95 cents each. That's a savings of $95 million from Bayer's original price. The federal government previously paid an initial discounted price of $1.77 per tablet.

Before reaching the deal, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson threatened to ask Congress to seek a waiver of Bayer's patent on Cipro to allow production of a cheaper generic equivalent.

Bayer's president and chief executive officer, Helge H. Wehmeier, said that his company is fully committed to supplying America in its war on bioterrorism.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/1028077/detail.html


Bayer's Big Headache

Bayer sued for part in Nazi atrocities
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. (AP) – German pharmaceutical giant Bayer AG participated in World War II atrocities committed by Nazi doctors who experimented on Jews, according to a suit filed by a Holocaust survivor.

Eva Mozes Kor of Terre Haute filed the lawsuit Wednesday in U.S. District Court here. With her sister, Ms. Kor was among the hundreds of sets of twins experimented on by the infamous Dr. Josef Mengele at the Auschwitz concentration camp.

Bayer paid Nazi officials for access to those confined in concentration camps and collaborated in Nazi experiments as a form of research and development, plaintiff's lawyer Irwin B. Levin said.
"It's impossible to put on a scale the various horrors of the Holocaust, but this case represents the worst example of individual and corporate evil that the legal system may ever see," he said.
She claims that Bayer monitored and supervised the experiments.

http://www.th-record.com/1999/02/19/bayerhol.htm

(Was the anthrax scare a plan to save Bayer? Does the Bush family have ties to Bayer?)

IG Farben

IG Farben (short for Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie AG) (and also called I.G. Farbenfabriken) was a German conglomerate of companies formed in 1925 and even earlier during World War I. Farben is German for "paints", "dyes", or "colors", and initially many of these companies produced dyes, but soon began to embrace more and more advanced chemistry. The founding of the IG Farben was a reaction to Germany's defeat in the First World War. IG Farben held a near total monopoly on the chemical production, later during the time of Nazi Germany. It is the German chemical firm that was the financial core of the Hitler regime, and was the main supplier of Zyklon-B to the German government during the extermination phase of the Holocaust. Before the war the dyestuff companies had a near monopoly in the world market which they lost during the conflict. One solution for regaining this position was a large merger.

IG Farben consisted of the following major companies and several smaller ones.

Agfa
Casella
BASF (Badische Anilin und Soda Fabrik)
Bayer
Hoechst
Huels
Kalle

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The four largest quickly bought the smaller ones, and today only Agfa, BASF, and Bayer remain, while Hoechst merged with the French Rhône-Poulenc Rorer to form Aventis, now based in Strasbourg, France.(after WW II) MORE...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.G._Farben


Auschwitz, Bush, Farish, Rockefeller, IG Farben, Warburg, Dulles

Millions Burned
in the
Gas Chambers

Blood on Bush Hands

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IG Farben is not a household name today. In mid 20th century Germany it was the largest Industrial empire ever assembled in Europe. Post WWII it was broken off into three pieces, and it's record has faded from general knowledge. Today you know it as Bayer aspirin, BASF video tapes, Agfa film. At its peak IG Farben controlled over 500 companies.

IG has a particular connection to the Bush story, and it comes about like this: the Harriman fortune used borrowed money, which came mainly from Jacob Schiff. In a biography we read that Harriman borrowed and spent $60 million one day, and then borrowed and spent $40 million more the next day. Schiff loaned him that hundred-million dollars, some of it from Max Warburg's bank in Germany. Warburg was involved with IG farben, as director along with several others from his banking house. Dulles was involved through Sullivan & Cromwell negotiating deals for Rockefeller's Standard Oil. Thyssen money was involved, as (despite some famous histories) Auschwitz was chosen in great deliberation by the Nazi regime due to its proximity to the Silesian coal interests of Thyssen's.

At it's maximum expansion, Auschwitz used more electricity than the city of Berin, and it required a lot of coal to keep the lights burning. There were forty concentration camps at Auschwitz to supply slave workers to the various industries which set up factories there. Used up slaves too exhausted to work further were disposed of in the gas chambers at the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp.

While it might be said that the death camp kept its secrets until well into 1942, and didn't actually begin large scale murders until 1941, the Mein Kampf program called for the extermination of 40,000,000 of the 70,000,000 Poles and slavs in the east to make living room for the German master race. It wasn't a secret in 1925, so nobody should act surprised that plans published and emphasized in speeches throughout the 1930s actually were carried out. Much more...

http://www.ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/Bush_Auschwitz/Bush_Auschwitz.html


Bayer, Hitler, Saddam Hussein International Terrorist Leader


Bayer, Hitler, Saddam Hussein International Terrorist Leader We are looking for connections between Bayer, manufacturer of Cipro, the antidote to anthrax, and Hitler, and Saddam Hussein, International Terrorist Leader. Do you know of any such links? "BAYER 5090 Leverkusen, Bayerwerk, Germany 49-214-301 U.S. Headquarters: Miles Inc., One Mellon Center, 500 Grant St., Pittsburgh PA 15219 telephone [phone] Bayer made the first poison gas used by Germany in World War I; Bayer's U.S. operations were seized in 1917 and sold to Sterling Drug. Bayer was part of the I.G. Farben trust; it again lost part of its operations when I.G. Farben was broken up after World War II, but became an independent company in 1951. Bayer's U.S. operations (Bayer, Miles, Mobay, and Agfa) were merged into the name Miles in 1992. Health care provided over half of Bayer's 1991 income, but it is also involved in chemicals, dyes, food additives, film and lab equipment, plastics, rubber, and consumer products (Cutter's insect repellant, Flintstones vitamins, S.O.S. soap pads, Alka-Seltzer antacid, etc. Three-quarters of its profits are made in Europe (Hoover's Handbook of World Business 1993, p. 144-145). The BAYERwatch group is devoted to monitoring the violations of human and environmental rights caused by this company. Their website is more...

http://www.conspiration.cc/sujets/politique/bayer_hitler_hussein_terro.htm

Bayer Accused Of Aiding Nazis

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/02/18/world/main23550.shtml

Suit alleges German firms owe $100 million in Holocaust reparations

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/05/25/financial2019EDT0352.DTL&type=printable

So the $95,000,000 that Bush paid Bayer for the Cipro, should take care of Bayer's part of the debt, and our tax dollars are bailing them out.

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Don't forget the role of Bush's grandfather

I do highly believe it all ties back together and goes back to the same people. Just like always.

[DemonFighterLives]

38. Thank you for that information

I remember reading about a pharmaceutical connection, but don't remember Bayer. I'll have to dig up some stuff if I can.

There sure seem to be many facets to this whole poisoning operation.
I suspect that is why it just kind of stopped abruptly and why we haven't caught the guilty parties. They're probably celebrating with Osama.
:wow:

[Old and In the Way]

17. And the WH was taking Cipro before the first casualties were known.

Cipro is not a preventive therapy...so why were they taking it? What did they know and why didn't they warn anyone esle? If it were terrorists, they obviously wanted to help the Republicans ram through the Patriot Act. Remember, the terrorists hated us for our freedoms.

[bearfan454]

26. That was the tipoff for me

I have no doubt whatsoever that the pukes were responsible for this.

[raysr]

19. Jeebus Christ

the WH did it. That's the only explanation. How come only Daschle and Leahey got it??

[Finder]

23. This is difficult to discuss...

without coming across as a conspiracy theorist. As someone mentioned in another post, it is most certainly related to 9/11 and was domestic. Of course the disinformation operatives have effectively spun the whole thing.

[Finder]

24. Also, many in the group have been prosecuted and are in prison.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p02s01-usju.html

Anyone familiar with the "Turner Diaries"(Tim McVeigh and ilk consider it their bible)knows author William Pierce who was the father of the supremacist/militia movement got the best birthday present in 2001. His birthday is September 11th of course.

[DemonFighterLives]

31. I hope they clean them all up.

I don't think I'd heard about this mad bomber.
:nuke:

[killbotfactory]

27. It's a cover-up

They have to know who did this.

[scarletwoman]

36. Remember this: The anthrax attacks closed down the Congressional

office buildings:

Capitol reopens Monday; congressional offices stay closed

October 21, 2001 Posted: 9:59 p.m. EDT (0159 GMT)

(CNN) - The U.S. Capitol building will reopen Monday, but House and Senate offices will remain closed, a Capitol Police spokesman said Sunday.

Environmental sweeps at the Capitol for anthrax came back negative, Capitol Police Lt. Dan Nichols said Sunday. Those findings prompted scientists and health-care professionals to suggest the building reopen, he said.

The office buildings will remain closed until definitive test results about the extent of contamination with anthrax are obtained, he said.

Note the date of the above article, the "Patriot Act" was passed on October 25.

One of the results of having the House and Senate buildings closed down prior to the vote was that lawmakers could NOT get a copy of the full bill to review before they voted on it.

This was a black op on the part of the very fascists who seized control of our government on 12/21/2000. It will NEVER be "solved" it will ONLY be covered up.

sw

[DemonFighterLives]

37. I just have to wonder what other plumbing was done?

Computer programs or having congresspeople's pet programs spied on.
They could do whatever they wanted in the offices.

[Hubert Flottz]

41. And they went and dug around in JD Rockefeller's trash.

Remember the second time they shut down the office buildings?

Powder Found in U.S. Senate Building Tests Positive for Ricin

LAST UPDATE: 2/3/2004 9:06:15 AM

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Capitol Police evacuated the fourth floor of the Senate Office building and shut down its air circulation units after the hazardous team was alerted, Gainer said.

"Nobody has been hurt and everybody is fine," said Senate Republican Leader Bill Frist, Tenn., who is also a surgeon. The symptoms of exposure include shortness of breath, chest tightening and coughing.

During the testing, senators and their staffs continued to consider legislation in the Senate Finance Committee room, also located in that building. The decision not to evacuate them is likely to be scrutinized in the coming days.

Should final test results confirm that the powder is ricin, it would be the third bioterrorism attack on Congress. In 2001, terrorists targeted two U.S. senators with deadly anthrax, a deadly biological agent. The anthrax-laden letters, addressed to Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., and Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., shut down a Senate building for months, forced thousands of congressional aides and postal employees onto medication and killed at least two postal workers who likely handled the envelopes.

http://www.abc4.com/news/national/story.aspx?content_id=43122BEE-EEA0-43E3-B0D9-182BE117DAFF

washingtonpost.com
Politicized Memo Incites Row
Intelligence Panel Minority Laid Out Attack on Final Report

A barely contained partisan squabble over assessing blame for the apparent failure to find chemical and biological weapons in Iraq broke into the open yesterday when Republican senators said they had a memorandum indicating their Democratic colleagues were preparing a campaign to disparage a Senate committee report on the quality of prewar intelligence before it is even completed.

A senior Democrat countered that Republicans had probably stolen the memo from a trash can or a computer file.

The document at issue was written by a Democratic staff member on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence for the ranking member, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.). The memo laid out options for handling a report the committee is preparing that will largely focus on weaknesses in intelligence gathering and analysis by the intelligence community.

One option outlined in the memo is to work within the committee, which has a history of bipartisanship unusual in congressional committees, to "pull the majority along as far as we can on issues that may lead to major new disclosures regarding improper or questionable conduct by administration officials."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A6021-2003Nov5?language=printer

Deadly Ricin Found In U.S. Senate Building

February 3, 2004

http://www.komotv.com/news/story.asp?id=29609

[DemonFighterLives]

40. kick nt

:kick: