I have a feeling that Cheney is sicker than they are letting on

[Poiuyt]

They knew about this knee/artery problem back in July, but he is having "elective" surgery now? When all this shit is hitting the fan? Tell me this isn't a serious problem. And to think that Cheney's office wasn't going to reveal this operation at all. They were apparently quite mad that the reporter found out! I'll bet that he was in a hospital somewhere during the early days of Katrina when he was nowhere to be seen.

My guess is that Cheney does not finish this term. That will give Bush a chance to name another VP, who will then become the front runner to get the Republican nomination for 2008. (I'm not sure that being associated with Bush is a good thing for Republicans)

[Rainscents]

1. I totally agree!! I have no idea who, but you can bet, it will be another

nasty right winger!

[daninthemoon]

2. I was kinda thinkin the same thing.

[pbartch]

54. boy....i hope so.

[supernova]

3. I agree with you

and he looked puffy the other day, like heart failure puffy. He's holding a lot of fluid, not just overweight.

[Racenut20]

4. I'm thinking this messes up the plan for Cheney to run Pres & Jebbie VP

They when he quit or croaked, Jebbie would be Pres like he thought he was supposed to til Mama intervened for her favorite DimSon.

[Ksec]

5. I pity Cheney when hes 'called'

He will, without a doubt, be headin down. If there is a down.

[liveoaktx]

6. I was wondering this when he kept wearing that heavy jacket in Texas

I mean, the temperatures out here were blazing and remember, he was standing out there with Bush wearing a COAT. I thought then he had to be hiding something, probably surgery.

[acmejack]

11. When your heart is failing you are always cold

I am a pacemaker packer, so unfortunately I speak from sad experience.

[calimary]

29. AHA! I bet that's it. Because I, too, noticed that appearance he made

behind bush with the usual suspects at Rancho Pendejo, when everybody else was in shirtsleeves - I think rummy may have had a jacket on, too, but it was light weight, and cheney's didn't look so light-weight.

My mom has a bad heart. She's been living on borrowed time for 15 years, after many heart attacks, ongoing congestive heart failure, and yes, she too has a pacemaker.

And you go inside her house to visit, and you damn near suffocate, it's so hot. Every time we have one of those big-family-dinner occasions, and guests come, one of them invariably will turn to me quietly and ask if it seems hot in here to me, because they're sweltering.

Hope you stay well. I hope my mom does, too, but frakly, when you're 89 and you've had that many close calls, and you're just about as frail as a paper doily, I'm not confident that she'll last that much longer.

[xxqqqzme]

12. all the photo ops in Mississippi,

he was wearing a long sleeve shirt buttoned @ the wrists. It is humid, hot there as well, many reporters commenting on the heat after HK.

[bluestateguy]

7. Presidents and their doctors are not known for their honesty

Vice Presidents too.

Look at all of the presidents who were less than forthcoming about their ailments: Wilson and the stroke, FDR and polio, JFK and Addison's disease, Reagan and the onset of Alzheimers.

It was also a plotline for the 3rd season of the West Wing. Bartlett and his MS, which he did not disclose to the American people in the first campaign.

[Poiuyt]

47. I remember the time back in the 60's, when they broke into the TV shows

with a "Special Report." Remember this was right after the Cuban Missle Crisis, so we were all afraid. Turns out they were reporting on LBJ's cold!

[fooj]

8. Boo fucking hoo!

:grr:

[BlueJac]

9. Mentally ill

[maine_raptor]

10. Simple explanation for Now and not Then

The Earth just underwent a couple of large Solar Flares during the past few weeks (true). And as we all know, solar activity can affect power grids, communication systems, and small electronic devices.

I think all the recent solar flares has short-circuited some of his cyborg implants. Either that or he fell down fly-fishing and got'em wet.

So this operation is just damage control. He'll be back and snarling in no time. :bounce:

[daninthemoon]

18. Just a side note: During Letterman last night as Ted Turner was

bad talking the admin and promoting the UN, my reception went out. I assumed it was the flares, but then my daughter reminded me that this has happened before during Letterman when a guest was talkin bad about the *s. The station is out of Wichita Falls, TX.

[maine_raptor]

21. Cable or Sat?

Sat more sensitive, but a really large release can affect it also.

[daninthemoon]

25. Antenna. I have satellite for most stuff, but local cannels aren't availab

[maine_raptor]

26. That will do it

Broadcast signals bounce off the ionosphere, solar activity will disrupt that.

[daninthemoon]

27. More fun if it's censorship by the station.

[meisje]

31. or wild conpiracies by its viewers

[daninthemoon]

37. Ever been to Texas? No, I'm not seriously saying the station did it,

but it has happened before.

[maine_raptor]

41. Didn't realize you were in TX

The flares we have been having have not extended so far south according to NASA. Not to feed your paranoia or anything...LOL

[daninthemoon]

43. Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get us.

[jobycom]

13. Rumors are flying even amongst Republicans

that Cheney is too weak to even do his job, and spends most of his time sleeping now. Of course, they can keep him alive for a long time like this.

Keep in mind that BushCo is a crime organization, like the Sopranos. They don't want outsiders coming in, because there is the risk of them being exposed. They will prop Cheney's corpse up and put Disney animatronics in the old fucker's bloated body to finish out this term if they have to.

As for why he is having the surgery now, maybe it's crucial, or maybe they really just don't give a damn about Katrina and see no reason for it to affect their recreational plans.

[hardrainfallin]

14. Maybe they've decided it would be a good idea to INSTALL a heart

in the s.o.b.

Perhaps they could do the same for **, and while they're at it, surgically implant a brain, huh?

[JuniperLea]

15. Agreed

I think he is going in for more heart surgery and they are using blood vessels from his leg; the leg surgery being a cover-up for scarring, limping, etc.

He looks like he has congestive heart failure to me. Seen it many times before.

Is there a doctor in the house? I'd like to hear an expert opinion.

[Bumblebee]

16. I agree -- he is bloated and looks like shit. This is just a cover-up

and maybe just one of the ailments he has but a safe one to advertise.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

28. Cheney is history. Time to float a front runner for 2008.

I said before the election that Cheney will not finish out this term. The repugs cannot take the chance of not having an "incumbent" in place before the primary season. They don't want a fight that will completely fracture the party and drain the treasury. Would much rather reserve their monies and backstabbing for the Dems. Somewhere the PNAC cabal has already decided who will be on the ticket in '08, they are just stringing along the possibilities for their own sport.

Can't you just imagine the ass kissing that will go on with this bunch of neocons if Cheney does "retire?" Frist, Santorum, McCain, Guiliani, etc. will be crawling to the White House on their knees begging for the job. Expect a lot of possible repug candidates to start getting a lot of face time in MSM in the next few months.

That opinion and $1.00 will buy you a cup of coffee.

[enid602]

17. VP

Would Bush be able to appoint a VP? Doesn't it automatically go to the Speaker of the House? Isn't that how Ford got in? I can't remember.

[davsand]

19. Unca Dick can and DOES go MIA pretty regularly.

I think it really is a leak that a reporter used. If it was serious we'd know nothing about it.

I have predicted from the outset of the regime that Unca Dick was not gonna finish it out. Frankly, I'm shocked he's lasted this long. If I'm being totally honest, I think he's been here this long because the Chimp really WAS more of a fuckup than they realized before he was installed.

I think the original plan was they were gonna use the first year to ram rod thru the tax cuts and EPA changes that the big money boys wanted, then Unca Dick was gonna gonna resign (or else go room temp) and they were gonna put in some "moderate" appearing candidate. That "moderate" was gonna protect their interests for the following two terms after the chimp got impeached or became a liability.

The original plan got de-railed when 9/11 happened. That little event was quite fortuitous for dim son--and most convenient. Did you ever wonder about the idea that Daddy B. used to head up the CIA? Especially at a time when we were so very tight with Bin Ladin?

Anyhow, a buddy of mine that is a heart Doc told me last year that he thought Unca Dick was a man in seriously bad health. That was based on how he looked and acted on some MTP outing, and i was kind of taken aback by it because this Doc is GOP all the way. Anyhow, he said then that he expected Condi to be the VP put in to replace Cheney.

Happy days ahead if he was right--eh?



Laura

[NV Whino]

40. You reflect my thinking of the last two years exactly

Dicky resigns because of poor health. Condi as VP. Condi as Pres in 2008.

[Arugula Latte]

20. The living dead need a continuous supply of bodies to feed off of

Cheney needs fresh blood to go on.

Might explain why so many in this country have turned into zombies in the last five years.

[catmandu57]

22. I don't think he'll make it to 07

Even if the evil fucker croaked off, I think they would hide it until then anyway if they could, to try to influence the elections next year.

I'm putting my money on jebbie being named to vp, with fucknutz* resigning before the term is up, so he can step in and be pretzeldent for a while.

[meisje]

23. McCain has been really quiet, will he replace cheney?

[daninthemoon]

30. He sure has kissed alot of * ass, especially after how they did him.

[bluestateguy]

36. That seems unlikely

He's still too unpredictable, and besides, with AZ having a Demoratic governor who is well on her way to reelection next year, appointing him would be sacrificing a Republican senate seat.

[despairing optimist]

24. He'll have to resign before he's indicted

Maybe this is the cover to evade Fitzgerald and his investigation of the Plame leak. Sort of like, "Ma, can you call the principal and tell her I'm sick today? I don't want to go to school."

[daninthemoon]

33. Slinkin off into the Wyoming sunset?

[Democrat 4 Ever]

42. Nah, supposedly he and the Empress of Evil have recently bought an estate

on the Chesapeake Bay. (Well, it was reported he and Draculetta was house shopping while thousands were trying to tread water in New Orleans.) Cool 2.8 million or so will buy a nice little home for the old folks. I'm imagining somewhere inside this dungeon a dark room like a photographer would install to protect these two from the sunlight.

[daninthemoon]

44. For yachtin around with *.

[calimary]

38. If I were him (THANK GOD I'm not!!!) I'd sure be doing everything I

could to prolong my stay here on this plane. I would NOT be eager to go to the other side, knowing what judgment awaited me there.

I'd stall for all I was worth, too. Just like he's probably doing. But a seriously ailing body can only be artificially propped up for only just so long.

He has been looking terrible. VERY bad color. Hunched over a little, all wrapped up in coats and jackets and long sleeves. Not seen in pbulic very often. His color is VERY gray. The blood is NOT pumping effectively. Probably some oxygen deprivation to the brain by now, as well as to the extremities - which, come to think of it, makes you cold. My mom has a bad heart. Her hands are ALWAYS cold.

[despairing optimist]

51. I wish him the worst. Look at his legacy so far. It's not over yet!

He wants to make the whole country look the way he does, and he's largely succeeded. Civil liberties are on life support, public's in a virtual persistent vegetative state, and his policies are sucking the lifeblood out of the government's ability to care for the weakest and neediest citizens. It's either him or us, and I know where that puts me. If he's out of the picture, horizontally or vertically, he'll be one less to contend with.

Rove has probably put the fix in with St. Peter for him. He's got something on everybody.

[fishwax]

32. I'm surprised he's lasted this long

I think you're right that he's sicker than they're letting on. I waver between thinking they'll replace him so they can have a front-runner for '08 (b/c really, who else they got?) and thinking they can't replace him b/c he's really the one running the show. Of course, he could still run the show from the sidelines.

[cliss]

34. There was a photo here of Cheney yesterday.

I think it was in the LBN. Anyway, on the 3rd photo you can see Cheney sitting with Lynne. I got in close to get a good look at him.

He is puffy, bloated. He looks like he's very unhappy. He looks aged, too. Now, his cheeks were interesting because he has pinkish blotches all over his face. But if you look closely, they're almost purplish.

If Cheney were a stock, I'd say UNLOAD NOW.

[Bluerthanblue]

35. an aneurisim is NOT a 'minor' thing, regardless of where it is

located. It signals several things, first that his arteries are not very healthy, that his BP may well have been seriously out of control that there may be OTHER aneurisms in places not so obvious-
When one bursts, which they do, the bleeding can and often is fatal- I knew a man who had an aortic aneurism, and underwent surgery at the best hospital in the US (somewhere in Texas at that time). He survived, and lived a few more years, but ultimately died from other heart related problems.
Remember he went into a sports medicine place back several weeks ago- the WH said for a 'tour' and a nurse called her hubby on a cell phone saying that the hospital had Cheney 'IN-patient'.

Bad, when you can't trust anything that comes out of the government.
And the proof comes out, as it always will.

[Poiuyt]

50. Didn't the nurse have to call her husband from the bathroom because

the Secret Service wouldn't let her come out?

[Bluerthanblue]

53. might have been that way... but

I think they didn't know she had a phone, - like they were locking down the hospital so that no one would be able to talk to the media etc.
Notice how it wasn't 'news' except for those who read it here?

[Liberal In Texas]

39. I still contend that before the 2008 elections, Cheney will be replaced

for "health" reasons so the heir apparent can become VP and be anointed during the '08 convention.

[ShrewdLiberal]

45. If you count how sick in the head Cheney is, then he's prettty sick.

Throw his Satanic personality--greed, avarice, lust, perversions, etc.--ontop of it and he's one sick fucker.

[Seedersandleechers]

49. Don't rule out "elective cosmetic surgery" He is one ugly fuck.

[ShrewdLiberal]

55. LOL. Yeah. He desperately needs a tan...

If he were anymore pale, he could be ground up and used for chalk.

[Seansky]

46. Well, when he was here in CO

it was very obvious, as Adrianna reported, that a lot of what seemed like cover up was talking place...this has been going on for a while and one has to wonder how someone who have had 4 heart attacks can have a 100% good bill of health as they constantly say...

[Applan]

48. We can only live in hope

In my opinion, Cheney is one of the most evil individuals to ever walk this earth. The world will be better off once he has departed.

[bandy]

52. Calling Dr. O

could he give some insight into this?