Beware America. Beware -- Michael Ruppert

[Tace]

I know, I know -- It's Michael Ruppert. But, it's worth a read. I posted this last week, and it fell like a stone. Part of the problem, I think, is that he dumps on three DU icons -- Paul Krugman and the Clintons.

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If this thinking is not curtailed, then as the economic collapse of the United States becomes ever harder to conceal, FEMA will have been given a green light to impose the most draconian and heartless of measures in our country. FEMA will have the ability to divide the US up into ten autonomous regions, independently governed. Denver will be key to that decentralization and I note with irony that the CIA recently announced it was moving its National Resources (formerly Domestic Operations) Division to Denver (Washington Post, May 5, 2005) . FEMA will have the authority to confiscate any private property, food, medicine, personal vehicles, water supplies and even to impress citizens into forced labor and relocation as needed. FEMA will be able to override all local governments in a declared national emergency, quarantine neighborhoods and compel people to receive untested (for efficacy) vaccinations of drugs which may be dangerous (remember the smallpox vaccines?) and which will only enrich the pharmaceutical companies. FEMA will have the authority to confiscate firearms and gold held by private individuals. The government records proving what I say here are available in abundance and have been widely circulated over the internet for years. The little that remains of our Bill of Rights will simply cease to exist with a Code Red terror alert or another Katrina. And global warming makes another Katrina somewhere inevitable.

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[zalinda]

1. I'm sorry, but this doesn't make sense

It seems to be the perfect RW spin to try to throw the election to the repubs. And here is why........."It is now a virtual certainty that a Democrat will be placed there in 2008 (I did not say elected and will not until we have verifiable paper ballots returned to us)."

There is enough truth in this to make it scary, but not enough to be taken seriously. Diebold would never let a dem in the white house. Nor would other welfare corps, if they could help it, they have it too good with the repubs.

This is probably why it died.

zalinda

[Tace]

2. A Lot Of Folks Think Ruppert Is A Certifiable Nutcase

I don't always necessarily agree with all of his conclusions. However, his point, about leaving ourselves vulnerable by granting increased power to FEMA and the military, is spot on.

[loudsue]

13. I'm a BIG fan of Ruppert's.

He's way ahead of the curve on what's gone down, and what's coming next.

:kick:

[Tace]

14. I Agree

He's not a trained journalist, and most of the valid criticism about him is directed toward errors of journalistic method -- NOT the facts he's writing about.

[Sven77]

3. if you still believe in the 2 party system

i think its just republican and republican lite. ruppert is ok, i just dont think we've hit peak oil yet.

[Tace]

4. Some Of The Issue Of Peak Oil Involves Semantics...

However, any number of petroleum insiders believe that we are riding the peak right now. I don't know. But, from what I can gather, it sure looks like it.

[bigbrother05]

5. You can read all about

Fema at www.worldbank.org You may have to dig but its in there. And its some scary stuff.

[Tace]

16. Very Scary Stuff

[moodforaday]

11. I happen to agree with MR

The only way to explain the lack of uproar from Dem leaders in 2000, and - even more - the only way to explain Kerry's meek demeanor in 2004 (essentially before and certainly after the elections) is to assume some sort of a covert deal between the parties.

Kerry was not going to hurt his Skull-n-Bones buddy, that's why he was nominated, I believe. This is not to say that there are the same - they are not - but looking from my European perspective, there is clearly some sort of high-level alliance between the two parties. The first priority is not to let a third contender get a foot in the door; the next priority is to keep the business money flowing. When these two are secured, the parties and candidates are free to disagree about anything else.

As for Ruppert, google for his movie, "The Truth and Lies of 9-11", which is available for download in various locations (or you can buy the DVD). It's a recording of a lecture he gave in November 2001. Check out his evidence and then decide if he's a nutcase (unless you have already). For the 9-11 lihop/mihop crowd, MR's account is one of the most lucid and well-grounded. He follows the money. And he's certainly right about his pet topic, Peak Oil.

[loudsue]

12. You're just plain wrong about that, zalinda. In fact, I think there's a

very good probability that they will place a Dem in the presidency in '08. Of course, they will make sure repukes have both houses of congress, so that whatever Dem they put in won't be able to get a damned thing done (prolly Hillary: they can bash Dems AND women at the same time); and they already have 85% of the courts, and 99.9% of the media.

But they fully intend to blame ALL of the mess, including a civil war, as well as the economic meltdown of the U.S., on a DEMOCRAT. Until then, we have well-placed people trying to hold up the pretense of an economy that is working....the economy IS NOT working. The United States is flat bankrupt.

I don't care who it is that disses Michael Ruppert: the guy is wonderful, and is fighting this regime as hard as anyone on the planet. He also has some big fans/friends in the CIA and FBI that have been "outplaced" by the bush regime.

:kick:

[kohodog]

6. FEMA just proved to the world that they are totally inept.

Please think rationally.

[Independent_Liberal]

7. You're right, they are totally inept.

This shit doesn't scare me one bit.

:)

[OneBlueSky]

10. believing that FEMA is totally inept is totally missing the point . . .

what has happened (and continues to happen) in New Orleans is NOT due to ineptness -- it is due to malignant indifference that is thoroughly intentional . . . if this had happened in Miami Beach, don't doubt for one second that the FEMA response would have been prompt, comprehensive, and organized to a fault . . .

Ruppert's point is valid . . . read the Executive Orders he refers to and see what's in store for us whenever those in power deem it to be the right time . . . his analysis of what's happening in this country is a hell of a lot closer to reality than most of us would care to believe . . .

[TheStates]

8. Actually Diebold lets whoever they want in the white house....

Whatever the agenda is their corporate masters put the person in, such as Clinton. Its the perfect manchurian candidate ploy. Before intervening Bush's VP was to be Hagel not Cheney.

They are interested in one kind of dictatorship where all their cronies get to benefit. I have never expected anything else from the likes of Diebold. This is why its mandatory to get verifiable elections...

I don't think Ruppert is too far off the mark. He's concerned about corporate takeover as he should be, they already own the game.

[rustydad]

9. I respect him a lot

He goes the distance to get facts. His take on the disintegration of industrial society is based on Peak Oil as well as other economic facts. The Peak Oil issue is pretty well established fact for most oil geologists. It is the economists who have hard time with it. We live in a society based on everlasting economic growth. And clearly that is impossible. As fossil energy in the form of oil and gas becomes restricted by nature the engine of economic growth will sputter. Will it sputter on or sputter to a halt? Hard to say but Ruppert thinks it is the latter. And that the government left standing will be a totalitarian government, will have to be. Look at New Orleans and the violence after a social breakdown. Imagine a nation wide breakdown in the system. Most people will welcome the blackshirts armed to the teeth. It is coming IMO. Bob

[Beam Me Up]

15. "everlasting economic growth . . . is impossible" That's not what the

Fascits do. What they do is build an infrastructure. During its construction they profit. When it is built and has served its purpose for a time, they destroy it (or allow it to be destroyed) and begin the process of rebuilding the infrastructure.

That kind of 'growth' can be sustained almost indefinitely. When the hydrocarbons run out they'll either discover (for example) that science was wrong, that elemental hydrocarbon production IS a-biotic OR they will discover some new (but centrally controlable) energy resource.

You heard it hear first.

[rustydad]

17. Well...

..fascists and others of ill gains do try and live off the sweat and toil of others. Always has been and always will be I guess. But we are about to see something different and Ruppert IMO is correct as well as many other knowledgeable people like Matthew Simmons and others. The age of oil and gas is going into wind down. Oil and gas are not abiotic and even if it were the recharge rates would be so slow as to mean nothing. Hydrogen is a cruel delusion, solar is good for sun tans, wind is fine for pumping water, coal gets us lots of electricity but ruins the climate, like hot? Humans can only exist in the long run in concert with the environment. If we allow the exploiters of the environment and there fellow humans to rule we are doomed. And perhaps we are. I myself have had a good life. My six grandchildren have little hope for the same. I am dam mad at the exploiters. When push comes to shove I will not go peaceably. Bob